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[Irsic]

Didn't realize it took that much into account. Just try it on Falco at about 50%, and have his action be air dodging.

 

[Levitas]

ok, I'll do that sometime (soon, either tonight or tomorrow during the day)

 

[prOAPC]

tap jump off, better to use utilts
i wish i could turn off tap jump in melee

 

[prOAPC]

my friends are starting to tech my dair T_T

does anyone know why sometimes i go higher than usual after a footstool?

 

[xoxokev]

I just realized how much fun Lucas is to use again!

<3 pivot grabs

 

[c3gill]

my friends are starting to tech my dair T_T

lol dude I love spamming Nair-> Dair to rack up damage, my friends have been doing that also. I didnt really catch on until I accidentally landed in front of a Falco and got screwed

does anyone know why sometimes i go higher than usual after a footstool?

Cant footstools be SHed and FHed? you might be used to SHing a footstool....

 

[FireKirby7]

Yeah footstools can be SHed, they look like FHs though.
FH footstools look like....... Maximum hops or something.....

 

[prOAPC]

really? that's new for me, thanks for the info

 

[c3gill]

Yeah footstools can be SHed, they look like FHs though.
FH footstools look like....... Maximum hops or something.....

ihave never tried it- but Zap Jumping a footstool?

I know someone is going to say its totally useless, but I can think of a few rare situations where it could be useful. so, can it be done? has it been done before?

 

[Levitas]

I doubt it's possible.

For one, you're in lag the frame after footstooling, so it wouldn't work like normal.

 

[c3gill]

awww thats right, i forgot the saying your mom used to tell you... its 8 or 10 if you footstool them? I guess thats right, because im assuming a buffered ZJ wouldnt work (lol that sounds absurd, footstool and then ZJ like 2 seconds later....dreaming on)

it was just a thought, that is now banished.

 

[ToxiCrow]

APC mentioned something about stopping knockback at the 100 Lucas tricks thread.
is it possible if we do a Reverse Magnet Pull that our knockback will decrease?
a normal PSIm will increase our knockback, but what if we do a RMP? anyone willing to test it out?
it'd be pretty cool if it worked

Edited. wouldnt work fast enough

 

[Irsic]

You mean like, while being knocked back, then doa RMP?

I couldn't get it to work. Have tried it before. :\

 

[Neon Ness]

Well, instead of Magnet, try PK Fire in the opposite direction? We know PK Fire causes momentimum, so technically that would stall knockback. Ex. You're knocked right; using PK Fire right should push Lucas left and even out the movement to a 'standstill'.

...Then again, when trying to get back onstage you want to stop knockback as soon as you can and PK Fire is a bit time consuming for that.

 

[prOAPC]

another option could be the following. To cancel momentum, you have to use you fastest aerial, then fast fall then jump, well, what about with Lucas, fast fall fair and then zap jump? (instead of normal jump)

 

[Levitas]

Bair is his fastest aerial. FF to zap jump will get you KO'd off the top, so normal jump is preferable. If the normal jump would KO you off the top, a screwed up zap jump (PKF 1 frame too late, gives the little hop) might work.

 

[ToxiCrow]

(the following is not spam because it sticks to the OP)

*Guess who this is!!!

 

[Levitas]

I like the disclaimer, toxi, lol.

But I will NOT tolerate Mother 3 spoilers in this forum, lol.

everyone should experience Mother 3 to its fullest.

 

[ToxiCrow]

i still havent beaten it
i just past the part where you fight Mecha Fassad

 

[ParanoidDrone]

Levitas: Bair is the fastest aerial in what terms? Frames until the hitbox comes out? Total frames of animation? It always seemed like the slowest to me. o_O

ToxiCrow:

Spoiler

You mean New Fassad. Not Mecha.

 

[prOAPC]

^^^total frames of animation

 

[Irsic]

I didn't know that it was faster than nair.

 

[Neon Ness]

.....Or fair.

 

[lil cj]

Bair faster than nair??
But nair comes out almost instantly
With bair theres a split second for Lucas to kick his leg back

 

[ToxiCrow]

total animation.
nair may come out quicker, but it lasts longer ( or so i hear)

 

[Levitas]

TC and APC have it right. the total length of animation is what matters, and bair has the shortest overall length.

Edit: closed by request.

 

[FireKirby7]

Nair and Bair last exactly the same frames according to this:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=211307

 

[lil cj]

Since bair has the shortest length
would it be hard to punish if you approach with it?
Maybe Lucas could approach with bair??
Im just sayin...

 

[Yoshi-Kirby]

I wouldn't really use Bair all that much onstage. =/