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CrusherMania1592

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Is anyone believing this "leak" that Ridley is deconfirmed? I don't believe the tiniest bit of that info
 

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No character announcement tonight, just like I thought, also apparently I was wrong when I said this was a two day tournament. I could've sworn that's what it said about it.
 

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So sometime, maybe early August or in a few days I think we'll get a newcomer/veteran video, we'll have a Nintendo Direct to reveal a newcomer/veteran, and we get a veteran in a pic of the day. The rest can be secret.

Also, why don't they reveal stuff at these tournaments? They're the perfect place to do so.
 

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Honestly, we weren't getting a newcomer from the get go tonight as this was a tourney setting. Just because Smash is shown off =/= we're getting major news. The best thing is that people got to go play Smash and we get a tourney that Nintendo ran pretty well after the technical issues with the commentators, setups and rules for the most part. (Though the stream is still live but it's bugged :urg:)

However, if we manage to get something minor within the next few days, it's not out of the question. But expecting Nintendo to always feed us big info at any event isn't a good idea. We'll get something new in regards to a playable character at the soonest in August, and we already have two newcomers to boot this month, and two (technically) veterans, Captain Falcon, and the EShop Derp essentially confirming Wario's return.
 
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We'll get something new in regards to a playable character at the soonest in August, and we already have two newcomers to boot this month, and two (technically) veterans, Captain Falcon, and the EShop Derp essentially confirming Wario's return.
Well, Wario was already practically confirmed when we got Ashley as an Assist. This just further cements what we already knew.
 

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What are you guys talking about?

The surprise was Bowser winning a Smash tournament. holy ****
 

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Been going around facebook that someone mentioned Ridley was deconfirmed by saying "Like this dragon thing in Pyrosphere". Um...I don't even believe this and I'm even getting flammed for asking for proof which no one is doing :joyful:
 

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This Falco only being an alternate skin talk is breaking my heart.
It is not breaking my heart in the slightest because those who believe that Falco is nothing more than an alternate costume for Fox are quite simply delusional. In fact, it is more humorous than anything.
 

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Been going around facebook that someone mentioned Ridley was deconfirmed by saying "Like this dragon thing in Pyrosphere". Um...I don't even believe this and I'm even getting flammed for asking for proof which no one is doing :joyful:
Link?
 

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I like this. After using sucky Bowser for over a decade, here's my chance for the Koopa King to show what he's really made of.
I never had this problem as I usually play "Free For All" where Bowser is actually quite the dominant character; however, I would not be surprised if Sakurai's knee-jerk reaction was to nerf Bowser to Mushroom Kingdom and back after his overall performance.
 

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Only link I can say is go on the "Super Smash Bros. Discussion Group" page on facebook where you can see the whole thing. I don't know where this whole thing even started today and I doubt anyone here heard it either
 

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Only link I can say is go on the "Super Smash Bros. Discussion Group" page on facebook where you can see the whole thing. I don't know where this whole thing even started today and I doubt anyone here heard it either
What's the story about it?

Was it mentioned in the stream?
 

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So we are at 36 counting Miis as one character. Subtract the third-party characters and we have 33. I could see a 36 to 38 starting roster and then 12 hidden characters (including 3rd parties) as I feel we will have a 50 character roster now, especially with us getting 5 newcomers in the past two months.
 

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What's the story about it?

Was it mentioned in the stream?
From my understanding, someone in the Facebook comments said something about a "dragon on the Pyrosphere" (or something like that) being mentioned in the stream.

However, the people here watching the stream say that they don't remember anything like that being mentioned.
 

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From my understanding, someone in the Facebook comments said something about a "dragon on the Pyrosphere" (or something like that) being mentioned in the stream.

However, the people here watching the stream say that they don't remember anything like that being mentioned.
I suppose this confirms Charizard as a stage-hazard... :sadeyes:

On an unrelated note; people are down-playing Black Shadow in the "Rate Their Chances" thread. I suppose it is to be expected as he does not have hive mind support. :c
 
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What's the story about it?

Was it mentioned in the stream?
I have absolutely no idea about it. All I did was went on facebook and next thing I knew, the whole "RIDLEY DECONFIRMED" was everywhere. It's obviously someone feeding the trolls to make this look legit
 
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I like this. After using sucky Bowser for over a decade, here's my chance for the Koopa King to show what he's really made of.
I read an article some guy wrote about his impressions from a long hands-on demo with the 3DS version and he said Bowser at this point in development Bowser feels like one of the best of the demo roster. There's still time to nerf him, but right now he's supposedly one of the best :chuckle:
 

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Well considering that over half the roster isn't in the demo, I feel like Bowser most likely won't be the best character.

Sakurai also said himself the devs have scored Samus as the best character in the game so far. So we'll see soon enough I guess.
 

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I always thought bowser was a fine character. He was slow, but he packed such a huge punch as long as you timed his moves properly.
 

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For all we know Bowser could be terrible even in this very build. Nevermind that this is an unfinished build, the metagame is non existent right now to even know who could be good or not because it's impossible. I mean it took like a year for Morrigan in MvC3 to go from one of the worst to arguably the best.

Hell it took a few months for everyone to find out that MK was SSSSSS tier.
 
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I just hope Link doesn't get screwed again for the fifth time(I heard he was pretty bad in SC2).
 

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I just hope Link doesn't get screwed again for the fifth time(I heard he was pretty bad in SC2).
Yeah he's bad in SC2. Heihachi was the only good guest character...one of the best even.

To be fair Link isn't bad in Melee. I feel like he has untapped potential. Well Young Link does at least.
 

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Any good Villager gameplay? I stopped watching the stream due to all the frickin' matches containing: Marth, Kirby, Luigi, and Bowser(I'm glad to see Bowser love though).
 

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I'm pretty much convinced that Lucina got in as a separate character due to another character being cut. Sakurai said that he cut Shulk because he didn't offer unique, but then puts in Lucina, who is literally just Marth with long hair and breasts. I don't buy his 'Lucina plays differently to Marth' excuse. We know that she was originally planned as an alt costume. I think that a character got cut due to time constraints, or due to third party complications, so they separated Lucina to take up an easy roster slot.
 
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Sakurai said that he cut Shulk because he didn't offer unique,
What a twitst!

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In all seriousness, Robin was Chrom's replacement.

I think Lucina was just put in as roster padding ala Melee.
 
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For all we know Bowser could be terrible even in this very build. Nevermind that this is an unfinished build, the metagame is non existent right now to even know who could be good or not because it's impossible. I mean it took like a year for Morrigan in MvC3 to go from one of the worst to arguably the best.

Hell it took a few months for everyone to find out that MK was SSSSSS tier.
I still think in this current build Bowser is very good this could change however i still think Bowser will be Top Tier if they don't change him
 

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What a twitst!

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In all seriousness, Robin was Chrom's replacement.

I think Lucina was just put in as roster padding ala Melee.
Well yeah, but I don't think she was planned as that from the start. She was originally planned as an alt, and frankly makes more sense as an alt than as a separate character. That to me says that the change from alt to separate was the result of a change in the development process. This makes me think that maybe one of the heavily requested characters has been cut due to time constraints, or that a surprise third party has fallen through the cracks due to complications.
 

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Well yeah, but I don't think she was planned as that from the start. She was originally planned as an alt, and frankly makes more sense as an alt than as a separate character. That to me says that the change from alt to separate was the result of a change in the development process. This makes me think that maybe one of the heavily requested characters has been cut due to time constraints, or that a surprise third party has fallen through the cracks due to complications.
Interesting observation.
Maybe this is the case indeed.
Seeing as Sakurai has had his arms injured for a year and some change now... and he mentioned it would interfere with his work.
I wonder if the game got delayed because of it.
Now that his left arm is also suffering maybe it means they need to wrap it up for the 3DS release, since he promised the same roster.
 

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I'm pretty much convinced that Lucina got in as a separate character due to another character being cut. Sakurai said that he cut Shulk because he didn't offer unique, but then puts in Lucina, who is literally just Marth with long hair and breasts. I don't buy his 'Lucina plays differently to Marth' excuse. We know that she was originally planned as an alt costume. I think that a character got cut due to time constraints, or due to third party complications, so they separated Lucina to take up an easy roster slot.
I don't think this is the case at all. If anything, Lucina was added as a bonus, she's not replacing a character. It was never stated anywhere a character was cut, and Sakurai's statement was, plain and simply, Lucina was different enough to get a separate slot. That's it. You've got to twist words to try and come up with this theory that Lucina replaced a cut character, when nothing like that was ever stated.

Also lol at not getting Chrom's name right again. I've seen people mistake Chrom's name for Shulk before, but its not as bad as saying "Chrome." :p

What a twitst!

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In all seriousness, Robin was Chrom's replacement.

I think Lucina was just put in as roster padding ala Melee.
Lol no, you're closer though. Robin didn't replace Chrom, Robin was just plain chosen over Chrom. Its not a matter of "Chrom was planned but not unique enough, we used Robin instead." It was "we considered Chrom as a character, but chosen not to add him as Robin was more unique."

Robin didn't replace Chrom because Chrom was never on the roster. In the planning phase, Robin won out, gameover.
 
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