Marth's great, he's just not better than other characters worth noting.
He and Lucina kinda scream some of the few characters who really don't seem to have a solid game plan by their current designs and numbers (unless you think standing still and out-reacting players's with less commitment/more reward attacks is going to work against faster characters with similar or better range), they're poorly tuned by most player's standards.
He has good times in several match ups with good characters IMO, but I haven't really seen much indication of it not being similar for any other lower-ish perceived character.
If you're in the bottom half of the cast, you just aren't that much worse or better than the rest of their cohort.
Getting forward smash tippers are impressive and game changing, that's about it; he's a gambit that can destroy souls but the likelihood of it is low. If we hypothetically take just "that" (Fsmash) out of the picture, he's looking comparable to Captain Falcon in Brawl, both characters share[d] a lot of mechanical similarities and play patterns. Falcon had good mobility specs but he contrasted very poorly to Sonic back then, one of the best jabs and one of the best up airs. He had a disgusting amount of landing lag and ending lag on most of his moves and he scored nothing from grabs against anything but grab releases. Contrast to Marth who had one of the best grab games, [one of] the best sets of aerial landing lag and a dominant-ish neutral, all of which Falcon now has. Falcon had a lot of structural nerfs that extended past the face-value and was not 'lucky' in any other area. I would say those nerfs were mostly rescinded, if not buffed, his high/top tier position is boasted by his general solid stature. Marth got battered up in a lot of similar ways and now lives in a world where he has a good down tilt (rather than a jab) to "hopefully" cover every shortfall he has as a character against the entirety of the cast; I and most other Marth players know that isn't enough.
He and Lucina kinda scream some of the few characters who really don't seem to have a solid game plan by their current designs and numbers (unless you think standing still and out-reacting players's with less commitment/more reward attacks is going to work against faster characters with similar or better range), they're poorly tuned by most player's standards.
He has good times in several match ups with good characters IMO, but I haven't really seen much indication of it not being similar for any other lower-ish perceived character.
If you're in the bottom half of the cast, you just aren't that much worse or better than the rest of their cohort.
Getting forward smash tippers are impressive and game changing, that's about it; he's a gambit that can destroy souls but the likelihood of it is low. If we hypothetically take just "that" (Fsmash) out of the picture, he's looking comparable to Captain Falcon in Brawl, both characters share[d] a lot of mechanical similarities and play patterns. Falcon had good mobility specs but he contrasted very poorly to Sonic back then, one of the best jabs and one of the best up airs. He had a disgusting amount of landing lag and ending lag on most of his moves and he scored nothing from grabs against anything but grab releases. Contrast to Marth who had one of the best grab games, [one of] the best sets of aerial landing lag and a dominant-ish neutral, all of which Falcon now has. Falcon had a lot of structural nerfs that extended past the face-value and was not 'lucky' in any other area. I would say those nerfs were mostly rescinded, if not buffed, his high/top tier position is boasted by his general solid stature. Marth got battered up in a lot of similar ways and now lives in a world where he has a good down tilt (rather than a jab) to "hopefully" cover every shortfall he has as a character against the entirety of the cast; I and most other Marth players know that isn't enough.
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