Social Burn With Passion!! -- Incineroar General Discussion (Formerly the Support Thread)

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Wasn't that not the same source as the rest? Either way I don't think it's a red flag.

It's not a red flag, but it makes me wary as heck.

Either way, I still don't reccomend taking a leaker's words as gospel, even if it's someone who's gotten stuff right like Verg.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Inciniroar is so lucky after hearing that Decidueye Lycanroc and Mimikyu wont be newcomers gen 7 its ok my Pokemon is Inciniroar.

I wouldn't get my expectations up high here. The people informing us about these "leaks" could be straight up lying, so I'm not gonna believe anything until I see it.


On the other hand, I'm joining this support for Incieroar! There's no reason we can't have a wrestling type character yet and I'm surprised we haven't gotten one. Time for Incineroar to show how that is done.


And the possibility of fights are endless here. I can easily see Incineroar fighting Little Mac or Dedede on who is better in the ring

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

And that's not mentionning that while Verg has gotten stuff right in the past, he's also gotten stuff wrong.

Putting all your trust on what is ultimately a wild card isn't exactly the best decision.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

And that's not mentionning that while Verg has gotten stuff right in the past, he's also gotten stuff wrong.

Putting all your trust on what is ultimately a wild card isn't exactly the best decision.

Exactly! It's a gamble whether to trust him or not. This Direct with the information he has "leaked" will determine whether his information is correct or just wanting his fifteen minutes of fame

 

[MacDaddyNook]

Leak or no, it's no secret that Game Freak does like promoting Incineroar, so it's not like its a longshot for it to make it in.

 

[Takasmash]

Leak or no, it's no secret that Game Freak does like promoting Incineroar, so it's not like its a longshot for it to make it in.

Thats true I didn't notice until I want Incineroar to be in smash over Decidueye and its the truth like at the sun and moon anime.

 

[AquaSol]

Definitely a supporter! It would be cool to have Charizard vs. Incineroar battles.

 

[Klimax]

Can you add me to the supporters' list @GoldenYuiitusin please ? I definitely wanna show more support to Incineroar.

He's now my third most wanted newcomer. As a huge wrestling fan, seeing him giving lariats in the Punch Out stage would be awesome !

And by the way, i think he's the most likely 7th Gen Pokemon.

 

[Noipoi]

Just popping in to say I support Incineroar.
He was my starter in Sun and Moon, and while i'm fine with any Gen 7 Fighter, he would be my favorite. I think he's got one of the better chances too.
So yeah, put me on that list if you wanna.

 

[MacDaddyNook]

As each day goes by, I see people warming up more and more to 'Roar. I hope when more future Pokemon generations come, it'll be in the group of beloved Pokemon.

 

[Flik]

As a Wrestling fan and a loyal Fire starter user, allow me to join the cause Incineroar is my nº1 most wanted newcomer and probably the only character I'd be truly disapointed to not see as a playable character in Smash Bros.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Uh-oh

Don't you dare make him a k rool echo if in

 

[RandomAce]

Uh-oh

Don't you dare make him a k rool echo if in

It’s a pretty common wrestling move trope that can be found used by many different fighters in fighting games.

Plus, how can Incineroar even work as a King K. Rool echo.

 

[Waluigi is too big]

Ok hear me out.....

Zangief echo.

 

[toonito]

of the 3 starters i support Incineroar for Ultimate

 

[MacDaddyNook]

Uh-oh

Don't you dare make him a k rool echo if in

It's a fairly common wrestling more, so I don't see it affecting Incineroar, the two would still have a vastle different fighting style (Rool has the gun and crown attacks still).

Ok hear me out.....

Zangief echo.

Go on, you have my attention.

 

[Chrono.]

I'm a supporter of the buff kitty.

Add me to the list!

 

[MetroLSD]

Add me to ze list of supporters as well.

 

[Bluekirby2]

Incineroar is my favorite Pokemon in gen 7 and as of right now my second favorite Pokemon. If he's playable that'd be a Pokemon from my top 10 that's playable

 

[Drakonix]

Yo! Can I please be added to the Incineroar support list? Love this 'mon and it would be awesome to see him in the roster.

 

[THE 6r]

Put me on the list. This is the closest thing we could get to a "villain" character from Pokemon.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Put me on the list. This is the closest thing we could get to a "villain" character from Pokemon.

Mewtwo exists.

 

[THE 6r]

Mewtwo exists.

Yeah, but Incineroar is based on a wrestling heel whereas Mewtwo's more of Shadow or Meta Knight anti-hero type deal

 

[BandanaWaddleDee]

I think Incineroar is for sure going to be the Gen 7 Pokemon we get. He's also the one I picked, so that'd be real cool

 

[MacDaddyNook]

Mewtwo is arguable, but in the context of Smash, Melee did have it alongside Bowser and Ganondorf in villain event match.

 

[The Legendary Beast]

I really want to play as Incineroar on Boxing Ring.

 

[MacDaddyNook]

I really want to play as Incineroar on Boxing Ring.

It'd be great to deliver some devastating slams from the ropes/turnbuckle.

 

[Drakonix]

Incineroar vs Pika Libre! Who's gonna take home the belt in this Championship Finals Match!

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I really want to play as Incineroar on Boxing Ring.

Incineroar vs Little Mac vs King K. Rool vs Ryu on Boxing Ring

Dream matchup, right there.

 

[Pizza Robo]

I support Incineroar for Super Smash Bros Ultimate Sign Me Up :D

 

[lightdrago]

The best Alolan starter getting into Smash Ultimate? Yes please!

 

[The Legendary Beast]

I really like the idea of Incineroar using bulk up as a way to buff himself. That's a cool unique move/ ability that no other Pokemon character has in Smash. I could see it being like Wii Fit Trainer's down b but without having to time it. I want Incineroar to be a BEAST if he get's in. I want him to feel quite powerful. Not OP just make you feel cool when playing him.

Incineroar vs Little Mac vs King K. Rool vs Ryu on Boxing Ring

Dream matchup, right there.

Don't forget Pika Libre too!

 

[Drakonix]

I really like the idea of Incineroar using bulk up as a way to buff himself. That's a cool unique move/ ability that no other Pokemon character has in Smash. I could see it being like Wii Fit Trainer's down b but without having to time it. I want Incineroar to be a BEAST if he get's in. I want him to feel quite powerful. Not OP just make you feel cool when playing him.

Don't forget Pika Libre too!

To make that move not OP (cause lets face it, buffs on demand is an extremely powerful tool) it would require some sort of resource to use., or at least some sort limited lasting effect with some sort of cooldown.

 

[Blackwolf666]

What is the reason people want Incineroar? For me it was his personality, charm, pelvic thrusts and his wrestling moves... sounded better in my head *clears throat* moving on. What was the reason for everyone else? Are they the same as mine?

 

[Deleted member]

Roughly around the same.
He just "screams" Smash to me by design alone.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I'm mainly interested in seeing a grappler archetype finally be fully implemented in a Smash game. Could make for some really unique stuff.

Helps that Incineroar is awesome.

 

[scoobymcsnack]

Sign me up as a supporter, Incineroar would be dope

 

[MetroLSD]

How would a grapper type character work in Smash?

 

[Domino11332]

I support. Incineroar has always been my favorite of the gen 7 starters, and so i'm pretty happy that his chances are looking good.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

How would a grapper type character work in Smash?

Aside from the obvious "he's gonna have command grabs", there's a few things that need to be considered for how a true grappler like Incineroar would work.

For starters, Incineroar's mobility would take a hit for the sake of balance. Not saying he'd be the slowest, just slow enough so that moving around the stage becomes a problem. Because if a grappler ends up as mobile as Diddy or Sheik, it's gonna be horribly unbalanced. Alternatively, his frame data would take the hit while his mobility gets to be decent due to movement mattering so much in a platform fighter. Either way, you can't use him as a rushdown.

Then, his combo game would be minimal. Some bread and butter stuff, maybe a few things that can be followed up by a grab to showcase that grapplers are all about grabs too? Though with a lower combo ability comes the ability to hit like a truck to compensate, especially the grabs. This, much like the above, is to avoid having a grappler used aggressively since this archetype is usually more about patience.

And also, the grabs themselves. Basically, Incineroar could have a few command grabs in his specials. He would probably lack a combo throw (and if he does have one, it's going to be a very basic "bread and butter" thing), but his throws, including the normal ones, would deal a good chunk of damage and knockback. They would likely be his most reliable kill moves and ways to rack up damage too since grabs are the best thing for a grappler.

tl;dr a grappler would likely have these things in Smash

• Either low mobility or poor frame data to avoid aggressive playstyles and encourage a more patient, bait-and-punish approach.
• Poor combo ability, but high damage output in general to once again discourage an aggressive playstyle.
• A set of powerful, highly-damaging throws and command grabs as his most reliable ways to rack up damage and get KOs.