BrawlBox v0.63d (bug fixes)

[Kryal]

a bone viewing feature? cool but how do i see it and does it let you see what you have done without having to boot brawl this would be great for my pathetic attempts at trying to make sonic's spikes the right way for shadow is there a way to make the running animation different like shadow skating?

No bone viewer yet. Next version.

In other news, it keeps freezing.

It may be caused by a bug in the animation decoder. Please be patient.

 

[brawlshifter]

Kryal, I know that you have a lot of things to do for the next version, but could you please make the animation viewer first priority. You've kind of left us all in suspense with the only way of viewing animations being to test them on the game.

 

[luigiman1928]

Hey my Common3 also freezes. Also cuz of compression i guess?

 

[Oni K4ge]

My problem is resolved, mu_menumain and info work flawlessly now... lol. compression guys, compression.

 

[Eldiran]

Kryal, I know that you have a lot of things to do for the next version, but could you please make the animation viewer first priority. You've kind of left us all in suspense with the only way of viewing animations being to test them on the game.

No need to put pressure on Kryal; if he left us with BrawlBox as it currently is, we'd still be greatly indebted to him.

 

[DelxDoom]

Alright; could some very nice and awesome person PM me explicit, clear instructions on how to give someone a different animation.

IE; give pikachu, jigglypuff's back air animation (i know it'll do weird stuff with the body shape, i don't care)
and then could you tell me something that would work better than jiggs bair lol

THANK YOU to anyone who does this.

 

[God of Humility]

There's an excellent tutorial on animation swapping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaJ-yER2nIY

 

[brawlshifter]

if he left us with BrawlBox as it currently is, we'd still be greatly indebted to him.

Of course, and thanks for it Kryal.

 

[KuroBit]

There aren't any bones connecting the knuckles to the fingertips. The polygon is what fills that in. The rotation of the end node determines the transform for the polygon. It's hard to determine the length because that's all up to the polygon. In the end, there would be a direction indicator on the node itself, and you'll have to use the polygon for the rest.

Sorry, yes, that's what I was trying to say, I wasn't sure of all the 3D modeling terms. I wasn't sure how to explain it...
But what I mean is, is there any way you could display the angles somehow instead of just dots for bone points and lines for the connections between bones? If the points had a small indicator showing which direction they where facing or something... It wouldn't be useful for bones with connectors on both ends, but for ending bones, it would be nice to be able to see what direction it's facing.

Sorry for bothering you about this x_x...

EDIT:

Something like this:

 

[havac]

can I use this to swap character models with trophy models? If so what files do I swap and do I rename any?

 

[pokelover980]

can I use this to swap character models with trophy models? If so what files do I swap and do I rename any?

You can't because trophies don't have bones. Assist trophies have bones, but it's a pain to edit them over to another character.

 

[brawlshifter]

You can't because trophies don't have bones. Assist trophies have bones, but it's a pain to edit them over to another character.

About this, do you delete bones that aren't needed or add bones that are needed. Or can you just give me a link to a place that tells what to do so that I can stop asking here.

 

[DelxDoom]

There's an excellent tutorial on animation swapping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaJ-yER2nIY

thank you VERY MUCH, however, do i need extra files besides my pac files or does brawlbox already find these animation files within the pac files...?

 

[IndigoFenix]

Wow, this is great! It'll take an animation/model previewer to really take this off the ground, though - trying to edit an animation and have to check it on the game to see it makes things REALLY slow...

Also, are the translation/rotation parts relative to their normal T-pose positions, relative to the parts they are connected to, or are they based on absolute distances and rotation? (That is to say, if everything is set at zero, do you get a T-stance or a ball of body parts? I would have thought they were relative, but then moveset swaps shouldn't resize the character... right?)

 

[E-Jolteon]

Wow, this is great! It'll take an animation/model previewer to really take this off the ground, though - trying to edit an animation and have to check it on the game to see it makes things REALLY slow...

Also, are the translation/rotation parts relative to their normal T-pose positions, relative to the parts they are connected to, or are they based on absolute distances and rotation? (That is to say, if everything is set at zero, do you get a T-stance or a ball of body parts? I would have thought they were relative, but then moveset swaps shouldn't resize the character... right?)

Exactly. So I'm thinking ball of body parts.

 

[Kryal]

Wow, this is great! It'll take an animation/model previewer to really take this off the ground, though - trying to edit an animation and have to check it on the game to see it makes things REALLY slow...

Also, are the translation/rotation parts relative to their normal T-pose positions, relative to the parts they are connected to, or are they based on absolute distances and rotation? (That is to say, if everything is set at zero, do you get a T-stance or a ball of body parts? I would have thought they were relative, but then moveset swaps shouldn't resize the character... right?)

Every bone transform is relative to the current bone, not absolute. A change in one bone affects all child bones in the tree.

 

[luigiman1928]

Hey, i think i found data for a BETA stage! I was browsing my new Fancy Pantsy Brawl ISO ( )
And i was looking through the Module folder and i found a file called "st_otrain.rel". I think its a stage
But what do you think its from?

 

[Untouch]

Hey, i think i found data for a BETA stage! I was browsing my new Fancy Pantsy Brawl ISO ( )
And i was looking through the Module folder and i found a file called "st_otrain.rel". I think its a stage
But what do you think its from?

Online Training

 

[luigiman1928]

Oh.... Nevr mind. Why did i find Mario's Icon From Melee inside the Result's Screen?

Nintendo is really being..... wierd.

 

[STUFF2o]

Oh.... Nevr mind. Why did i find Mario's Icon From Melee inside the Result's Screen?

Nintendo is really being..... wierd.

I saw that, it was confusing...

 

[luigiman1928]

OMG! I also found a Real Stock icon for GIGA BOWSER. It says "BOSS1" And behind it its Giga Bowser!

 

[Oni K4ge]

OMG! I also found a Real Stock icon for GIGA BOWSER. It says "BOSS1" And behind it its Giga Bowser!

Ah, I have seen this too. I wonder what this would've been for... hmm...maybe giga was gonna be in the SSE?

 

[luigiman1928]

Who knows. hey where are the VC Games stored?

 

[pokelover980]

About this, do you delete bones that aren't needed or add bones that are needed. Or can you just give me a link to a place that tells what to do so that I can stop asking here.

You can't add bones. We have to wait until Pharrox comes out with the injector because the only way to give them bones is to rig them to another characters bones.

 

[Oni K4ge]

Perhaps something along the lines of replacing the movie at the beginning of the game to something that'only 2 seconds long? Like Falcon saying "YEZ!" then we get to the title screen? Its unecessary for a file to load that EVERYONE skips, and the loading time is ridiculous. ammirite?

 

[markehmus]

Who knows. hey where are the VC Games stored?

in the last few partitions, 2 to 13... 1 in each

partition2 = VCgame [HA8E](1)()
partition3 = VCgame [HA9E](1)()
partition4 = VCgame [HBAE](1)()
partition5 = VCgame [HBBE](1)()
partition6 = VCgame [HBCE](1)()
partition7 = VCgame [HBDE](1)()
partition8 = VCgame [HBEE](1)()
partition9 = VCgame [HBFE](1)()
partition9 = VCgame [HBFE](1)()
partition10 = VCgame [HBGE](1)()
partition11 = VCgame [HBIE](1)()
partition12 = VCgame [HBKE](1)(Ocarina US Partition)
partition13 = VCgame [HBLE](1)(StarFox US Partition)

 

[markehmus]

Perhaps something along the lines of replacing the movie at the beginning of the game to something that'only 2 seconds long? Like Falcon saying "YEZ!" then we get to the title screen? Its unecessary for a file to load that EVERYONE skips, and the loading time is ridiculous. ammirite?

yes i would love to change video , ...edit and replace

if you find a program to alter/edit so i can replace the .thp please let me now

i am looking to no avail.

thanx

 

[Dracs]

Great programme.
Thanks a lot.

I dont know if others people got that, but I couldn't "save..." file (only "save as..." worked, leaving the files uncompressed).
When I tried, I got "This process cannot access etc...".
Like Windows didn't let BrawlBox access the file.
I manage to save by using the programm Unlocker and then save.
But if this could help people who have the same problem...

 

[shanus]

Putting a minor request in here which I hope someone can help with:

Can someone give ROB animations for SpecialFall, SpecialFallF, and SpecialFallB using his Stepfall animation (when he is footstooled).

Additionally, can someone give him a specialfalllandlag animation using his animation for LandingHeavy?

 

[Eldiran]

Putting a minor request in here which I hope someone can help with:

Can someone give ROB animations for SpecialFall, SpecialFallF, and SpecialFallB using his Stepfall animation (when he is footstooled).

Additionally, can someone give him a specialfalllandlag animation using his animation for LandingHeavy?

Here you go!

http://www.mediafire.com/?gztnwnnmwny

Didn't test it, because that'd require editing a moveset to test (and I should be studying instead <.<) but I can't imagine how it wouldn't work.

 

[shanus]

Here you go!

http://www.mediafire.com/?gztnwnnmwny

Didn't test it, because that'd require editing a moveset to test (and I should be studying instead <.<) but I can't imagine how it wouldn't work.

tyvm sir, you are awesome.

I'll check it out when I'm home

 

[shukakusand]

yes i would love to change video , ...edit and replace

if you find a program to alter/edit so i can replace the .thp please let me now

i am looking to no avail.

thanx

There's one in Nintendo SDK and I made a couple of .thp files.

 

[Untouch]

There's one in Nintendo SDK and I made a couple of .thp files.

Mind saying where, I have the SDK, I don't wanna look through it.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

So. I was looking for stage spawn points and found them at in ModelData[100] > StagePosition > Bones > Rebirth*#/Player*#.

Then I thought the X,Y,Z coordinates were in the translation tab.

I modified it and then tested it on a SSE stage( the third stage AA did)and I successfully fixed the spawn points.

This means you can easily mod blast zones, entry points, revival platform points, and camera limits.

Thanks Brawlbox.

Spread the word!

 

[Untouch]

So. I was looking for stage spawn points and found them at in ModelData[100] > StagePosition > Bones > Rebirth*#/Player*#.

Then I thought the X,Y,Z coordinates were in the translation tab.

I modified it and then tested it on a SSE stage( the third stage AA did)and I successfully fixed the spawn points.

This means you can easily mod blast zones, entry points, revival platform points, and camera limits.

Thanks Brawlbox.

Spread the word!

Fixed mushroom kingdom confirmed.

 

[D.B.K.]

Would the Nintendogs model work on someone else?

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

Would anyone know the filesize limits for common5? "limits" being the limit of common5 itself, big portraits, and the small ones?

 

[Untouch]

You can change the screen shakes, could lead to an exploit.

 

[brawlshifter]

Would the Nintendogs model work on someone else?

You would have to edit the bones around just like with any other Assist Trophy.

 

[camelot]

You can change the screen shakes, could lead to an exploit.

Err, explain, please.