Bayonetta Summons the Climax! Updated OT. - (Old Bayonetta Support Thread)

[Ixbran]

those ballot poll "results" were fan made, the image was literally posted 3 days after the poll was first announced. I would avoid using that thing as a reference for anything, let alone to back up your side of a debate.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I think I know which poll you're talking about.
I know she's done well in the subreddit poll.

 

[Wolfie557]

mountainsofmouthness.com

I got a reply of "No Bayonetta. Shovel better. ShovelKnight for Smash."

 

[BluePikmin11]

Currently in finished 2 chapters in Bayonetta, TBH, after looking at the controversial parts of her attacks, it really isn't so bad. The only true part is when Bayonetta finishes a boss down, that's where nudity is most notable. But that can be easily censored a bit more with more of her hair surrounding her parts, I think people are really over-exaggerating her nudity problem.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

They are overexaggerating indeed. In Bayonetta 2 (finally got the game and finished the scenario), the "invocation" outfit is a little bit less revealing than in the first game. It's still revealing, but does cover what it needs to cover.

As for huge invocations, it's easily "censorable" by doing a cinematic FS, like Falcon's or Duck hunt's one. Even if it means that Bayonetta won't be seen at all during it.

 

[Triggerpig]

The nudity issue is overexaggerated alot, you could easily get rid of the hair leaving her body effect, and it's not like smash has'nt had sexualized female characters before (ZSS).

I think bayonetta or a platinum games character atleast, is pretty deserving of being in smash, when it comes down to it, I think Platinum games have been more supportive of nintendo the last two gens then capcom or namco have been, they created madworld for the wii and worked with nintendo on both bayonetta and 101.

I don't understand why people would think she'd have a lack of moveset either, the game is based around unique combos and weapon swapping to which theres like what 20 weapons between both games? there's enough moves there to fill her moveset and alot of custom moves.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Anyone that thinks she'd be lacking moves has clearly never played a character action game in their lives.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

About the nudity, I also think that the "invocation" mode isn't necessary.

I mean, this:

Spoiler

It IS part of the character, but only the main costume does it. Every other costumes doesn't transform, and... It's absolutely fine in Bayonetta.
There's also Umbram Climax, or Bayonetta 1 "Serious Mode" where she send tons of wicked weaves without stripping.

And about the moveset... With Bayonetta 2 alone, there's enough weapons to choose. Alraune as a tether grab is a must (See? It's a ZSS clone )

 

[HakuryuVision]

I'm all for Bayo.
Awesome and really really fun personality, great looks (dem legs!), biggest move-set potential ever (Seriously, go play Bayonetta 1 + 2 and see it for yourself), catchy music, etc etc.

The whole "too sexy" argument still seems moot seeing how ZSS made it in. Bayonetta in her second game may show of more skin (on her back), but doesn't look as sexualized as ZSS's skin-tight costume.
Heck, look at Captain Falcon! You can see every single muscle through his clothes!
They even placed two yellow buttons over his nipples, making him look (extremely manly) awkward!!
And don't forget: The human character showing off the most skin is still Shulk in his swimwear alt, showing off more skin than ZSS space-bikini thing.

As people pointed out; Bayonetta 2 being a Wii U exclusive helps her chances.

Let's vote for Bayonetta in the Smash Ballot! ; )

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

So... Someone told me that "Bayonetta is anti charismatic". lel.

Same applies to Snake. Double lel.

Edit: Oh, and he is sure that Bayonetta won't be in because of Kamiya on Twitter. Triple lel.

 

[Wolfie557]

Currently in finished 2 chapters in Bayonetta, TBH, after looking at the controversial parts of her attacks, it really isn't so bad. The only true part is when Bayonetta finishes a boss down, that's where nudity is most notable. But that can be easily censored a bit more with more of her hair surrounding her parts, I think people are really over-exaggerating her nudity problem.

Oh, I can't even express how much I agree.
Great your enjoying Bayonetta 1 so far!!! : D

So... Someone told me that "Bayonetta is anti charismatic". lel.

Same applies to Snake. Double lel.

Edit: Oh, and he is sure that Bayonetta won't be in because of Kamiya on Twitter. Triple lel.

 

[8-peacock-8]

I love how people try to talk about characters they know LITERALLY NOTHING about. It's just amazing.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Sorry... but she is too sexy

 

[Wolfie557]

Sorry... but she is too sexy

less than ZZS, or very similar. dunno,

But definitely less revealing.

 

[Dark Phazon]

less than ZZS, or very similar. dunno,

But definitely less revealing.

Really?
Really???

 

[Wolfie557]

Really?
Really???

In terms of clothing, yes.

Wicked Weaves would simply be......well, no stripping yet the hair effects remain. Simple.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Sorry... but she is too sexy

Was that a compliment?

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

Really?
Really???

Also, Bayonetta would be cool so hi. She would strangely fit in so well, Like I can just imagine her moveset

 

[Dark Phazon]

Also, Bayonetta would be cool so hi. She would strangely fit in so well, Like I can just imagine her moveset

Ridley couldnt fit

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

Ridley couldnt fit

I have a feeling you haven't seen the Project M Ridley mod

 

[Dark Phazon]

I have a feeling you haven't seen the Project M Ridley mod

Im a huge ridley supporter and yh i have aeen it

 

[Wolfie557]

Ridley couldnt fit

what has Ridley got to do with Bayonetta?

 

[Altais]

I just read the below article, which gave me many ideas.

Gamespot.com | What Two Game Series Do You Want To Be In a Crossover Together? - GameSpot Q&A

I think a crossover between Bayonetta and Metroid would be absolutely amazing. Since both series have some degree of gore (mostly alien blood in the Metroid series), there wouldn't be much of an issue in that matter.

The snarky, comical atmosphere of the Bayonetta series combined with the dark, horror sci-fi atmosphere of the Metroid series would make for an excellent plot line. Furthermore, since both game series are action & shooting-oriented, I fancy it wouldn't be too hard to craft a unique and engaging gameplay concept that combines the spirits of both Bayonetta and Metroid.

Obviously, Bayonetta and Samus would be the two main characters. The supporting characters could be Jeanne, Rodin, Luka, and Enzo from the Bayonetta series, and Rundas, Ghor, and Gandrayda from the Metroid series. The baddies could be a mix of Space Pirates, Ing Warriors, Angels, and Infernals. Imagine Bayonetta fighting Ridley or Kraid--or Samus fighting the Golem or Sapienta.

What say you lot?

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

I just read the below article, which gave me many ideas.

Gamespot.com | What Two Game Series Do You Want To Be In a Crossover Together? - GameSpot Q&A

I think a crossover between Bayonetta and Metroid would be absolutely amazing. Since both series have some degree of gore (mostly alien blood in the Metroid series), there wouldn't be much of an issue in that matter.

The snarky, comical atmosphere of the Bayonetta series combined with the dark, horror sci-fi atmosphere of the Metroid series would make for an excellent plot line. Furthermore, since both game series are action & shooting-oriented, I fancy it wouldn't be too hard to craft a unique and engaging gameplay concept that combines the spirits of both Bayonetta and Metroid.

Obviously, Bayonetta and Samus would be the two main characters. The supporting characters could be Jeanne, Rodin, Luka, and Enzo from the Bayonetta series, and Rundas, Ghor, and Gandrayda from the Metroid series. The baddies could be a mix of Space Pirates, Ing Warriors, Angels, and Infernals. Imagine Bayonetta fighting Ridley or Kraid--or Samus fighting the Golem or Sapienta.

What say you lot?

Bayonetta X Devil May Cry (Classic) would be the greatest thing to ever exist though, there is no denying that

 

[Altais]

Bayonetta X Devil May Cry (Classic) would be the greatest thing to ever exist though, there is no denying that

Ah, I totally forgot those two series were made by the same person. That crossover would probably be more likely. I vaguely remember playing a Devil May Cry game (I forget the exact title) for the Playstation 2 many years ago. One character was this blonde swordsman in a red trench coat, and the other was a tanned lady whom used throwing knives. Both of them had the ability to temporarily turn into a monster, which amplified their powers. For a game of its time, I thought it was pretty well-made.

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

Ah, I totally forgot those two series were made by the same person. That crossover would probably be more likely. I vaguely remember playing a Devil May Cry game (I forget the exact title) for the Playstation 2 many years ago. One character was this blonde swordsman in a red trench coat, and the other was a tanned lady whom used throwing knives. Both of them had the ability to temporarily turn into a monster, which amplified their powers. For a game of its time, I thought it was pretty well-made.

I haven't really played much but the series are so similar that it'd be so easy to do.

 

[Ixbran]

Really?
Really???

ee-yup

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

ee-yup

Bayonetta and Medusa confirmed.

Tharja and Cia deconfirmed.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Some advertising of Bayonetta I found while looking in Google.

Should encourage you all to vote again.

Also an article on Bayonetta's pros and cons:
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3191z2/discussion_is_bayonetta_too_adult_to_make_it_into/

Looking at the character campaign thread, lots of people want Bayonetta in Smash, and there are a lot of reasons to think she would make a great addition. However, the obvious question regarding her inclusion is whether she would be deemed too risque for a game that is carefully marketed as kid-friendly.

I'm curious what you guys think. In the hope of getting some more substantial discussion of this going, I am listing some arguments for and against the position that Bayonetta is too adult to make it into a Smash game.

PLEASE NOTE: This is NOT a discussion of whether Bayonetta should be in the game. Those sorts of conversations are for the character campaign thread.

Reasons Bayonetta is too adult for Super Smash Bros

• Sexual content is a big no-no, more so than violence for most parents. The Bayonetta games don't feature full on nudity or sex, but they are oozing with sexuality, from revealing costumes, to pole-dancing style moves, to suggestively sucked on lollipops, to "climax" finishing moves.
  
  
• Nintendo plays it safe. They have M-Rated games on their consoles (like Bayonetta), but their first party titles are always family friendly. Smash is an extremely important title for Nintendo, and the last thing they want to risk is alienating families with it.
  
  
• They already removed a trophy deemed to be too revealing (Tharja from Fire Emblem: Awakening). Tharja is not even particularly sexualized in her source game. If just a scantily clad trophy is too sexy to make the cut, then Bayonetta has no chance.

Reasons Bayonetta is NOT too adult for Super Smash Bros

• Bayonetta does not need to be any more revealingly dressed than Zero Suit Samus. Sure, in the Bayonetta games, her clothes come off for some attacks, but this is actually a relatively minor detail in the games, which could easily be omitted while still doing proper justice to the character. If they left that out, then she actually shows off less skin than bikini ZSS and swimsuit Shulk.
• Bayonetta would not be the first character with M-Rated games to make Super Smash Bros. The (only) other is Snake. To be sure, the Metal Gear Solid series and Bayonetta series got M-Ratings for very different reasons, but both were clearly not geared towards children. Both games feature guns, violence, coarse language, and more. Plus I think the Metal Gear Solid series is a lot darker thematically.
• If her inclusion doesn't cross any boundaries that Nintendo hasn't already crossed with bikini ZSS or Snake representing M-Rated games, then it's hard to see how concerns like these could outweigh the many great reasons to include her.

And this too:
http://challengerapproaching.tumblr...bayonetta-cant-get-into-smash-bros-because-of

“Her Outfit shows off too much of her body“
-TheHaters

“She just wouldn’t fit in with Nintendo’s “Family Friendly” game style.”
-TheHaters

“She’s Hardly Wearing Anything! Shes barely covered up at all!”
-TheHaters


“Oh my god shes such a ****, she would never work!”
-TheHaters

Now we have pictures that provide footage of the max of Bayonetta's nudity in the sequel too. and really it's not that bad. If there were problems with 2 Bayonetta's max nudity, just slap in a bit more censor ship and it's pretty much fine.

Also some reaction gifs once Bayonetta is revealed:

 

[BluePikmin11]

New signatures too:

Let's keep the high consistent voting for Bayonetta going!

 

[JBRPG]

New signatures too:

Let's keep the high consistent voting for Bayonetta going!

The only thing missing is more Bayonetta 2 outfit signatures! Otherwise, what a great comeback for this support thread

 

[BluePikmin11]

You mean the Fox, Link, and Peach ones?
I can do that if you want if you plan to have it as your sig. :L

 

[JBRPG]

You mean the Fox, Link, and Peach ones?
I can do that if you want if you plan to have it as your sig. :L

Well... Not that kind, but more poses involving Bayonetta 2 default outfit...

 

[BluePikmin11]

I couldn't find any good Bayonetta 2 artwork to take from really, it seems that the link below is all the 3D art available for her:
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bayonetta-2_a.html

 

[Altais]

I just thought of something: it would be cool if Bayonetta had her design from the second game, while Kirby, if he absorbed her power, would have her hairstyle from the first game.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

I just thought of something: it would be cool if Bayonetta had her design from the second game, while Kirby, if he absorbed her power, would have her hairstyle from the first game.

Kinda like Zelda then.

All I want is Kirby with glasses honestly. And Bayonetta 1 costume. And Jeanne as an alt.

 

[JBRPG]

It looks like Bayonetta is quite close to the top of "rate their chances DLC edition" chart, why not vote-bomb Bayonetta if you have not posted already.

Rate their chances
http://smashboards.com/threads/rate-their-chances-the-dlc-edition-day-43-kos-mos.398604/

 

[BluePikmin11]

We have to be fair with our ratings and not omverrae her chances k. I'm going all out with Bayonetta defending when that day comes.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Just beaten Bayonetta, one of the craziest wacky experiences I had in a video game ever.
I'm really hoping a Bayonetta 3 happens, I need some more action from her!

 

[Wolfie557]

Don't forget to ask Smashfied team for Bayonetta's turn. Also;