Polls don't let us see the thoughts every SSB player, but they do let us see some. If DP scores high in a poll like that, he clearly has a fanbase. But if he gets 15% of votes, that doesn't mean 15% of the SSB fanbase is in favor of him.
It never was Dr. Mario vs Mewtwo. It's Dr. Mario vs nothing. Dr. Mario has more fans then nothing.
Misread once again.
"That's why I mentioned Pikmin: because it'd be easy to port them over." If you don't understand my country drawl, it'd means it would. It would be easy to port them over.
"The enemies? Yeah, they are. Not sure on the 3DS ATs." Pikmin sits at exactly zero ATs. Being that I've been arguing with five people about ten things, I forgot the context. "Have you seen the models and animations? They were made from scratch, not ported. You really need to stop making things up." Doesn't mention Pikmin once.
I don't need a link to prove a character has a fanbase. You're currently surrounded by DP fans, remember? It'd be obtuse of you to think otherwise.
It'd still be Funky clone over Dixie the newcomer. It makes very little difference, it just means people have something different to complain about. I'd wager most of the clone haters would hate a different clone. They'd say no, but that's not how humans work. They were programmed to hate the clones from the beginning.
It's kinda hard to expect me to be in a good mood when tons of people are pouring in raging about the clones, posting completely wrong "facts" as to why the character shouldn't be in SSB. You'd probably be in the same boat if there was a "prefect" clone for you.
But taking a sample out of a group of the SSB fanbase, while not representative of every player, should still give us a general idea of the common perception of a character. For a character to receive very,
very minor support in a poll of more than 1000 people across the internet, then that should give an idea that Dark Pit still isn't as generally wanted the way higher-scoring characters are. Like I said, this isn't just a small sample from one part of Smashboards. It's not end-all, but it does have its credibility is my point.
Given, Dr. Mario is better than nothing. However, were it a choice between "Clone or Alternate Costume", you can bet that more people would want Dr. Mario as an alternate costume than a character. That's all I ever heard during the entirety of Smash 4's development. I can only think of two people who wanted Dr. Mario back as an actual character, one of them just so happening to be the head of the old Dark Pit support thread. If we held another survey, either before or after Dark Pit's confirmation, I can guarantee you that more people would prefer Dr. Mario and Dark Pit as costumes than as characters.
When I was saying that, I was under the complete understanding that you were arguing that Pikmin would potentially get 20 enemies in the Wii U version. Considering that you said that very line, I hope you can at least see where we reached that misunderstanding. Still, if the point is that the Kid Icarus enemies were added in great amounts because it's
easy, wouldn't it have been easier and more time efficient to have no added them in the first place? That's where another factor must come in, being the active interest in literally giving Kid Icarus twice the amount of enemies as Zelda got, the latter of which being decades older and more easily recognized than the Kid Icarus enemies. Even Mario was dwarfed at a 3:4 ratio.
I'm not asking for a link for the proof of
existence of a fanbase. I'd be a moron to say that doesn't exist. I'm asking for a link for tangible proof towards other claims of things like the scale of Kid Icarus's popularity, the reasoning behind other series not deserving more than they got, and word from Sakurai himself. When you otherwise make claims
in style of your misspoken words from before, that leaves very little credibility to what you say. Plus, again, while there is the existence of a fanbase, do not forget about the existence of a hatebase as well, which 256 to 125 definitely shows there certainly is.
You acknowledge that people hate clones, yet were trying to defend that people "before they became bitter little turds" liked clones like Dr. Mario in Melee? That's not very consistent of you to flip-flop like that... Anyway, while Funky Kong would have been hated nonetheless for still being a clone, the fact of the matter is that he'd still be the lesser of two evils in that he gives more content to a series that could use it and offers the roster a character that isn't a narrative clone. I'd still be pissed about Funky as well, but I'd sooner have him than Dark Pit when the two series are scaled with one another and are shown that DK is a lot more due for something extra than Kid Icarus is at the late point of development.
There is no "perfect" clone for me. Even Louie from Pikmin, who I run the support thread for, would still be a greater disappointment to me than any unique newcomer if he was at all a clone. I sure wouldn't be as mad, but that doesn't speak exactly mean I'd speak highly of the character in the first place. Since the confirmation that characters can have different voices and names and still be alternate costumes, anyone that could be a clone of the same series should be an alternate costume in the first place. Now if Dark Pit was added as a unique newcomer, understand: I would
still be upset that Kid Icarus would have had even more content than it should have, and
still pissed off that DK and Metroid got ignored for it, but like Duck Hunt Dog and Wii Fit Trainer, I'd at least be able to appreciate Dark Pit more than any of cloned Louie, Dark Pit, or Funky for the contribution that unique Dark Pit adds to the roster and the gameplay. I'd be pissed off at the character in
flavor only, as compared to being mad at both flavor
and gameplay the way I am now with a cloned Dark Pit.
And honestly? That's more so your own issue than mine that you're in a bad mood because people don't agree to like Dark Pit with you. Some of the other supporters I've talked to today in the thread are at least able to remain empathetic enough to understand that while they got the character they wanted, other series were not as fortunate, and that a clone of a character in a series that already has so much content is bound to set off some unhappy campers. While they don't agree with me, they can respect my reasoning for not liking Dark Pit. You on the other hand are dead set on defending Dark Pit to the grave as some beloved figure
that any criticism against whatsoever is nothing but sacrilege. Liking Dark Pit is not a problem with me,
your blatant incapability of accepting others not doing the same, however, is.
Mention that there was some bias for Kid Icarus this time around and that Dark Pit shouldn't have necessarily higher priority to be made a full-fledged character than for another veteran to be restored or for Donkey Kong to have received
anything new. That's all I need to know you're even trying to look at this with an open-mind and that you're not too far vested in a Kid Icarus Master Race to understand how others might feel about his inclusion.
That much is what little I ask for.
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