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A guide against Mario users.

Ryusenka

Smash Rookie
Joined
Dec 6, 2008
Messages
12
Location
Oregon
Greetings, one and everyone.
I have recently been smashing with a good Mario user and found a few tips
to help get a good share of wins in. I have a decent list of moves I use that
are quite affective.

1: Psi (Wrong Way) magnet:
All good Mario users shoot fireballs while moving forward
to get close to you, Use Lucas' Psi Magnet facing the other way
the Fireballs are coming from. Mario will run toward you thinking
you did it in the wrong way on accident. When the fireball touches
Lucas' back he will turn the right way automaticly and Mario should
run into Lucas' Magnet, release the Magnet and that should deal
a decent amount of damage.

Lucas' Air A barrage:
This one is pretty well known. Short hop and press A for Lucas to
attack rapidly on the enemy, keep pressing a if you've got them
trapped and the last of the attack should send them away quite a
bit.

Reflecting Projectiles
I'm not sure how well known this is, but I just found out that Lucas'
Side Smash (Using his stick) can deflect Mario's fireballs. This is a good
Tactic to use when you have 0% damage because the Psi Magnet would
heal nothing and leaves an opening for your enemy. I'm not sure if Lucas'
stick can deflect anything else, I just know that he can deflect
fireballs.

PK Freeze Combo
When your enemy's % is quite low (Under 15% works for me) use
PK Freeze, while your enemy is in an Icicle quickly use Lucas' Needle
attack (Up Smash) this can cause a lot of damage quickly if done with
right timing. You don't want to use it all the time or the Enemy will
catch on very quickly. Also it's quite a risky move to do because if your
enemy breaks through the ice you leave yourself open for an attack
while Lucas is using his Needle attack.

Unexpected Needles
A good surprise attack is to use Lucas' Needle attack (Smash Up) while
running, when you run it looks as if Lucas is unable to use his Needles
without stopping first. This is a great surprise attack that I have used
to take many lives!


I hope these techniques helped you at least a little bit. I'm not sure
if all of these moves have been talked about before, if so I'm sorry.
It just seemed that there were a lot of Lucas users on these forums
an not nearly enough guides.
 

~Pink Fresh~

Smash Master
Joined
Jun 21, 2008
Messages
4,180
Location
Maryland
Greetings, one and everyone.
I have recently been smashing with a good Mario user and found a few tips
to help get a good share of wins in. I have a decent list of moves I use that
are quite affective.

1: Psi (Wrong Way) magnet:
All good Mario users shoot fireballs while moving forward
to get close to you, Use Lucas' Psi Magnet facing the other way
the Fireballs are coming from. Mario will run toward you thinking
you did it in the wrong way on accident. When the fireball touches
Lucas' back he will turn the right way automaticly and Mario should
run into Lucas' Magnet, release the Magnet and that should deal
a decent amount of damage.

Lucas' Air A barrage:
This one is pretty well known. Short hop and press A for Lucas to
attack rapidly on the enemy, keep pressing a if you've got them
trapped and the last of the attack should send them away quite a
bit.

Reflecting Projectiles
I'm not sure how well known this is, but I just found out that Lucas'
Side Smash (Using his stick) can deflect Mario's fireballs. This is a good
Tactic to use when you have 0% damage because the Psi Magnet would
heal nothing and leaves an opening for your enemy. I'm not sure if Lucas'
stick can deflect anything else, I just know that he can deflect
fireballs.

PK Freeze Combo
When your enemy's % is quite low (Under 15% works for me) use
PK Freeze, while your enemy is in an Icicle quickly use Lucas' Needle
attack (Up Smash) this can cause a lot of damage quickly if done with
right timing. You don't want to use it all the time or the Enemy will
catch on very quickly. Also it's quite a risky move to do because if your
enemy breaks through the ice you leave yourself open for an attack
while Lucas is using his Needle attack.

Unexpected Needles
A good surprise attack is to use Lucas' Needle attack (Smash Up) while
running, when you run it looks as if Lucas is unable to use his Needles
without stopping first. This is a great surprise attack that I have used
to take many lives!


I hope these techniques helped you at least a little bit. I'm not sure
if all of these moves have been talked about before, if so I'm sorry.
It just seemed that there were a lot of Lucas users on these forums
an not nearly enough guides.
lol it's cool you don't have to be sorry.
your always welcome here. plus you get a free omlet!.


in all seriousness the one thing that helps is the wrong direction psi magnet and that should only work maybe once. the reason we don't have many guides is because we already have tyr's guide, which pretty much explains everything you need to know about the character. just a few pointers, usmash sucks. it has too much lag and gets punished pretty badly. you probably shouldn't use it much. PK freeze.. sucks. it's just too easy to avoid. plus if you hit an opponent with PK freeze at low % you should just use another one and re-freeze them. still the move shouldn't be used much at all. and the a in the air thing is called a nair. you only have to press it once for the whole attack to happen not multiple times. it's easily one of lucas' best moves and is fairly safe. well.. i'm done here. just ask for help if you need it and TROLL(i'm looking at you Levitas) the boards. ok don't really troll the boards that gets you in trouble. just look around and have fun.
 

~Pink Fresh~

Smash Master
Joined
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Messages
4,180
Location
Maryland
levitas is not a troll, the one i consider a troll is tyr
and a guide against Mario? pretty useless
wow...someone's upset.
i said i'm looking at you because in another thread (momentum cancelling) i recently posted that i was trolling and he said don't be a troll, so i said that in order to evoke a response. idk who is and isn't a troll. he's new and he's just trying to help. you act like you haven't made a "useless" thread before.
 

~Pink Fresh~

Smash Master
Joined
Jun 21, 2008
Messages
4,180
Location
Maryland
one?
lol easy.
your thread about your vids.
we don't need a thread dedicated to your vids because we already have a video thread, but you made one anyway. Now i have no problem with that, but i could call it useless, just as you called this person's thread useless.
there's also you know.. the fact that people may actually have problems against mario. i still don't see why you had to be so rude towards someone who was just trying to help. don't try to say oh but ninjalink did it. no ninjalink does it to every character boards, you do it to one. "tyr posted his vids", that was one set that he said he would post because it had MK and ROB and it would help our matchup discussion and find a way to help beat MK. stuff that actually helps, not just vids against crappy a** opponents that make you look good. sorry but that was just uncalled for.
 

~Pink Fresh~

Smash Master
Joined
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Messages
4,180
Location
Maryland
D*** you internet!!!
i can't even tell if you're being sarcastic lol.
well if you knew you me in person, you would know i wasn't trying to be mean or anything. i even said sorry. plus i lol'd. then again... i always lol. well ya. i wasn't being mean or anything don't take it personally, though i do think i went a little overboard on my reaction and i'm sorry for that.
just try to remember we were all new here at one point.
 

prOAPC

Smash Lord
Joined
Mar 24, 2008
Messages
1,816
Location
Cartagena/Bogotá - Colombia
XD
i was being sarcastic, but i didn't know you were too :p
the part i wasn't sarcastic is when i say this thread is useless. I mean, Mario is not a hard match up for Lucas, he can gimp Lucas, that's true, but i'd say it's the only adv. he has. Also, most things he said, he could post them in the match up thread.
if the guide was against Marth or G&W, that would be different. I could write a guide to fight Marth, i have tons of exp vs Marth, all Colombian players play with Marth, at least as a third character (you ask why? Roy_R is the answer), some better than others. I could write how to deal vs some Marth playstyles, what to do and not to do, etc. Roy could help me to write it. But, i won't, you'll say the Marths i fight suck, and my english is not too good to write a complete guide
not sarcarsm
 

Ryusenka

Smash Rookie
Joined
Dec 6, 2008
Messages
12
Location
Oregon
Sorry if you think my thread is useless, I just thought there was at least one person who needed some help, y'know? I had a little trouble when I first started fighting Mario so I thought I could give a little. :(
 

prOAPC

Smash Lord
Joined
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Messages
1,816
Location
Cartagena/Bogotá - Colombia
thanks for trying to help, the Lucas board needs people like you to make Lucas improve, the thing is that you tried to help where we don't need help. Sorry if i sound mean, but it could be worse:
Why the **** are we still talking about this ****ty *** character??? Jesus Christ there are like 3 people in the whole ****ing country who play him and we have the ****ing advantage. It's not even a question for God's sake.
welcome to the Lucas boards, where everybody is happy most of the time :)
 

ChaosTheoryX

Smash Lord
Joined
Jul 28, 2008
Messages
1,139
Location
Wichita, Ks
welcome to the Lucas boards, where everybody is happy most of the time :)
apc just stfu.....*sarcastically* ^_^

ya dont feel down that your thread wasnt what you hoped it would be. Your motivation to even make the thread is definately what the lucas boards needs.

With that I say. Welcome to the lucas boards =)
 

lil cj

Smash Lord
Joined
Apr 29, 2008
Messages
1,328
Location
Los Angeles, CA
Welcome to the Lucas boards:)
Dont feel bad...Ive made plenty of threads that I thought would create buzz and they ended up becoming useless....lol
 

ToxiCrow

Smash Ace
Joined
Jun 6, 2008
Messages
944
Location
Long Island, New York
hey Ryusenka; welcome to the lucas boards!
why not join our Omelet Chatroom?? u'd hav a great time.
and mario is an easy match up for lucas..thanks for contributing tho, we appreciate it =]
 

Levitas

the moon
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Ann Arbor, MI
TROLL(i'm looking at you Levitas)
Inside jokes ftw. Maybe we should team up and TROLL other boards, lol.
Sorry if you think my thread is useless, I just thought there was at least one person who needed some help, y'know? I had a little trouble when I first started fighting Mario so I thought I could give a little. :(
I certainly understand the desire to help others on the boards, for sure. I would suggest sticking around and looking at Tyr's guide, checking vids out, then watching other threads for a while so that you know exactly where you stand. That way you can make an informed decision on whether you should be giving or receiving advice at the moment.

When I got on smashboards, I didn't know much right away. That's not a problem, everyone starts somewhere. My advice is just to take your time and get advice from the veterans around here before giving it.

Oh, and as others have said, welcome to smashboards.
 

~Pink Fresh~

Smash Master
Joined
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Messages
4,180
Location
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Inside jokes ftw. Maybe we should team up and TROLL other boards, lol.
shhhh don't tell anyone but i was planning on trolling the Link and TL boards tommorow after school. you should join! ^_^
as for now i'm going to my cave for sleep. the Link and TL boards are dangerous (they have Legolas on their side). lol


When I got on smashboards,
I got flamed because of that 217894 year long thread on the matchup against Zelda =[
i apparently was ignored after a while because i was "new" and "didn't know anything", though i was making valid arguments.
 

lil cj

Smash Lord
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I got flamed because of that 217894 year long thread on the matchup against Zelda =[
i apparently was ignored after a while because i was "new" and "didn't know anything", though i was making valid arguments.

U got flamed on the Zelda boards?
The Zelda mains r nice:)
...but I was put in my place by Hedgedawg when I made a thread about Zelda having an infinite Farores Wind(similar to MK's infinite dimensional cape) lol
 

Ryusenka

Smash Rookie
Joined
Dec 6, 2008
Messages
12
Location
Oregon
^_^ Thanks Everybody! I'll try my best to fit in and make the Lucas Boards better in any way possible!
 
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