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[Smooth Criminal]

My biggest beef with the remake was the episodic thing, but certain elements at Squeenix have gone on record to say that each installment was going to be about the length of a full game and that there was going to be extra content not found in the original. I'm sincerely hoping that this means we're gonna get all the stuff that was cut from the first go 'round and even more on top of that.

That said, I'm really hoping "full game" doesn't ****ing mean some Ground Zeroes nonsense. I will be super pissed if each "episode" is only a handful of hours.

Smooth Criminal

 

[TTTTTsd]

My biggest beef with the remake was the episodic thing, but certain elements at Squeenix have gone on record to say that each installment was going to be about the length of a full game and that there was going to be extra content not found in the original. I'm sincerely hoping that this means we're gonna get all the stuff that was cut from the first go 'round and even more on top of that.

That said, I'm really hoping "full game" doesn't ****ing mean some Ground Zeroes nonsense. I will be super pissed if each "episode" is only a handful of hours.

Smooth Criminal

Wait hold on tho. They said each episode would be the length of a full game?

What the hell, how big are they gonna make Midgar?! Assuming they pull this right and I ever get a PS4, this is gonna be a game I never beat unless it's like, just two episodes lol.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I mean, "full game" usually entails anywhere from 20 to 100 hours, but it could be something stupid like Ground Zeroes where it's only a handful. I doubt it's gonna be like that, though.

Smooth Criminal

 

[SonicvMario]

Since it's episodic does anyone think that Crisis Core , Derge of Cerberus and Advent Children (playable or just the movie) might get episodes

 

[TTTTTsd]

I mean, "full game" usually entails anywhere from 20 to 100 hours, but it could be something stupid like Ground Zeroes where it's only a handful. I doubt it's gonna be like that, though.

Smooth Criminal

Still that is POTENTIALLY a lot of damn time in Midgar or Part One. They weren't kidding when they said "remake" if they size it like this, the game's gonna be huge!

Also nobody's talked about it but mad kudos to keeping the good Barret design and not the one from Advent Children. The real G.

SPEAKING OF THAT, I really hope we get more than just the Chocobo hat for Miis. I REALLY want a Barret Mii Gunner costume.

 

[SonicvMario]

Also nobody's talked about it but mad kudos to keeping the good Barret design and not the one from Advent Children. The real G.

Not 100% on this but I think I read somewhere they considered using his AC design for the remake

 

[DBZHedgy]

When he'll be available, my new tag will be "For Zack" .

With complimentary Zack recolor skin if provided by Sakurai-sama

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

When he'll be available, my new tag will be "For Zack" .

Mine will be "For Aerith"

Let us hope our paths meet each other online for a glorious double tribute.

 

[Hanku Hirru]

My biggest beef with the remake was the episodic thing, but certain elements at Squeenix have gone on record to say that each installment was going to be about the length of a full game and that there was going to be extra content not found in the original. I'm sincerely hoping that this means we're gonna get all the stuff that was cut from the first go 'round and even more on top of that.

And that's why I don't understand how folks are going berserk over this model considering we still have little info how the content will be released. SE has gone on record to answer a lot of questions and they'll likely be doing this until we get the first chapter, so folks should wait until we get more information before losing their collective ****. We're still getting the full game, possibly more, but it will be broken into sections and the sheer detail in each chapter will be staggering, so no one can expect to fit this game onto one disc. I'm in the same camp as you and hoping we don't get another Ground Zeroes (and I highly doubt we will), but who knows at this point?

 

[JesseMcCloud]

Didn't they say that there were a couple of things that they were going to alter or remove from the remake? I don't remember who said it, or where I read it, but that may have changed since they decided to go episodic.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Didn't they say that there were a couple of things that they were going to alter or remove from the remake?

Considering that they're remaking the game, it's pretty much a given that they'd alter a few things.

Removing? I doubt it. If anything, they might add stuff that didn't make it in the original game.

 

[silverforte]

And that's why I don't understand how folks are going berserk

Because a lot of people love the franchise, FF7 in particular. It affected the youths of a lot of people myself included. When people care deeply about something like that and it's that important to them, they want it to be handled carefully. People sometimes overreact when they think the status of that thing might be in jeopardy. They're just worried it'll get ****ed up.

People who have a problem with the combat need to stop complaining. The original exists if they want turn based combat. They can go play that.

 

[Hanku Hirru]

And that's why nostalgia is a deceptive beast.

SORRY FOR THE BIGASS EDIT: I love FF7, as well. It is my absolute favorite video game, but I can objectively see that SE is a company first and foremost and they need to make a profit by attracting new fans. Sure, old fans comprise a portion of the audience to whom SE is marketing this game, but it's silly to think that Square did this just for them; hence my frustration toward people ******** about how Square is insulting long time fans with the remake. There is an overwhelming majority of potential fans that they can convert with the remake when you compare those numbers to the amounts of crusty old dudes and dudettes who played the original.

Frankly, if people didn't expect changes to be implemented with FF7 Remake, they're mildly ********. Change was inevitable and it was silly of anyone to think that the remake would be the original game with a brand new coat of paint. The ATB is dated, the localization was ****ty, and the graphics engine looks horrible. I love FF7 and the original will always hold a place in my heart, but I don't let nostalgia cloud (I'm punny; please, kill me) my ability to understand that fan service isn't the sole reason Square is developing this remake.

 

[Tri Knight]

And that's why nostalgia is a deceptive beast.

SORRY FOR THE BIGASS EDIT: I love FF7, as well. It is my absolute favorite video game, but I can objectively see that SE is a company first and foremost and they need to make a profit by attracting new fans. Sure, old fans comprise a portion of the audience to whom SE is marketing this game, but it's silly to think that Square did this just for them; hence my frustration toward people ******** about how Square is insulting long time fans with the remake. There is an overwhelming majority of potential fans that they can convert with the remake when you compare those numbers to the amounts of crusty old dudes and dudettes who played the original.

Frankly, if people didn't expect changes to be implemented with FF7 Remake, they're mildly ********. Change was inevitable and it was silly of anyone to think that the remake would be the original game with a brand new coat of paint. The ATB is dated, the localization was ****ty, and the graphics engine looks horrible. I love FF7 and the original will always hold a place in my heart, but I don't let nostalgia cloud (I'm punny; please, kill me) my ability to understand that fan service isn't the sole reason Square is developing this remake.

Exactly. Interviews have suggested that they have gotten to the point where they've realized their greatest work has already been achieved and they want to perfect it. This is the game that made the series, their treasure. They want their vision of what the game should have really been like to come to life. I truly think they're going to put their heart and soul into FF7R for that very reason. That's why they won't settle for a simple remake with some cuts to save some space. They want people to look back years from now and say "this is the game that defined Square Enix."

One of the first things they said in one of their first interviews that they had after the reveal said something like "we're getting to that age."

In reality, they're doing this for themselves probably more than they are for us.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

In reality, they're doing this for themselves probably more than they are for us.

Hey, they're probably getting a great deal of joy out of this project, but don't for one second think it's for anything other than $$$$.

 

[Tri Knight]

Hey, they're probably getting a great deal of joy out of this project, but don't for one second think it's for anything other than $$$$.

Well of course that's the way of the world. Companies like nothing BUT that. But only the greatest games are made with passion. For a game like FF7 to even exist they had to want it to exist.

EDIT: prime example of a money squeezer is Fallout 4. It has none of the things that made Fallout 3 or even New Vegas seem incredible.

 

[ArcanaXIII]

There's a few things unexplored or unexperienced in VII Compilation. A small focus on Genesis in the remake would be cool, even if it's a few small hints to him, considering he's relevant again after Dirge of Cerberus. They may also include Zack a little more in comparison to the original just cause of Crisis Core, and maybe some more backstory on Sephiroth cause why not?

 

[praline]

I really think Cloud and the direct are next week,

 

[Tri Knight]

There's a few things unexplored or unexperienced in VII Compilation. A small focus on Genesis in the remake would be cool, even if it's a few small hints to him, considering he's relevant again after Dirge of Cerberus. They may also include Zack a little more in comparison to the original just cause of Crisis Core, and maybe some more backstory on Sephiroth cause why not?

We might even see Zack as a playable character at certain parts of the game.

But I wonder if it's gonna be separate games all together. Like if i get to Level 99 in the first episode, will i have to be Level 1 in the next? Like completely different games. I really hope not. I hope it's just ONE single product.

 

[Hanku Hirru]

I really think Cloud and the direct are next week,

Sauce? Be it rumor or speculation?

Tri Knight : Truer words have yet to be spoken. SquareEnix wants to polish this title into something worthy of fond remembrance; much the same way the original is held in such high regard. FF7 Remake is a game that pays homage to the very project that put Squaresoft on the figurative map of the gaming industry. As the E3 reveal trailer narrator so eloquently said "the reunion at hand may bring joy, it may bring fear. But let us embrace whatever it brings, for they are coming back".

 

[praline]

Sauce? Be it rumor or speculation?

There's no "sauce", like I said in the post... I think.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

we want the sauce

Smooth Criminal

 

[Hanku Hirru]

There's no "sauce", like I said in the post... I think.

Psh. Who reads? Your thoughts could have a double meaning, Nintendo rep who's working as an undercover Smashboards poster...who is also the Trap King.

I want the sauce as badly as those old ladies shouted "where's the beef?" in those Wendy's commercials from days long past.

Forgive me fellow Cloud board members, for I am tired and running on 3-hours of sleep.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

Psh. Who reads? Your thoughts could have a double meaning, Nintendo rep who's working as an undercover Smashboards poster...who is also the Trap King.

I want the sauce as badly as those old ladies shouted "where's the beef?" in those Wendy's commercials from days long past.

Forgive me fellow Cloud board members, for I am tired and running on 3-hours of sleep.

I, for one, am convinced that he'll be released in December, but not before the Direct airs.
Now go take a nap.

 

[Strong-Arm]

Welcome back to the living. How was the tournament? Still no Cloud release date though also sadly.

It went pretty well.
Got 3rd in Sm4sh with Roy/DK
7th in PM with Snake
and 4th in Brawl with Snake

 

[The Merc]

Hello Clouds. I'm Unknown Hero. just wanted to say hi and say that FF7 is amazing!

Seriously, I just just got the game and so far I'm loving it!

 

[praline]

I mean, "full game" usually entails anywhere from 20 to 100 hours, but it could be something stupid like Ground Zeroes where it's only a handful. I doubt it's gonna be like that, though.

Smooth Criminal

If it's only a couple hours an episode it'll be like 50 episodes...

 

[RebelXII]

Some one on 4chan told me that you should play Final Fantasy 7 remake and never play the original. I've heard some stupid things on 4chane, but that was just stupid. No matter how great the graphics are, how talented the actors are or how immersive the combat is, the original will always be the better version.

That's just how it is.

 

[Tri Knight]

Hello Clouds. I'm Unknown Hero. just wanted to say hi and say that FF7 is amazing!

Seriously, I just just got the game and so far I'm loving it!

Go back to the Link boards!!!

.... nah just playing, welcome to the bar, care for a drink?

 

[WispBae]

Some one on 4chan told me that you should play Final Fantasy 7 remake and never play the original. I've heard some stupid things on 4chane, but that was just stupid. No matter how great the graphics are, how talented the actors are or how immersive the combat is, the original will always be the better version.

That's just how it is.

Well I mean, it's hard to appreciate the game in its current state since we don't have the context of time. Back then, graphics like this...

we're MIND BLOWING. JAW DROPPING. "HOW CAN GRAPHICS GET ANY MORE REALISTIC?!"

For the newer generation, the remake will be the better version. But the original still stands as a nice title for nostalgia for all generations.

...but yea that guy is dumb. Both versions would be worth playing equally, I don't know about either of them being "better" per say.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

Some one on 4chan told me that you should play Final Fantasy 7 remake and never play the original. I've heard some stupid things on 4chane, but that was just stupid. No matter how great the graphics are, how talented the actors are or how immersive the combat is, the original will always be the better version.

That's just how it is.

Hmm.
I would argue each game will be better in its own way. For those of us who grew up on the original, the original will undoubtedly have its strengths in our eyes.
However, I am stoked to see how they update the game, and the new battle system looks sick as all get-out.
Sorry, but your poat is purely opinion, which IS mutually exclusive from fact.

 

[RebelXII]

Well I mean, it's hard to appreciate the game in its current state since we don't have the context of time. Back then, graphics like this...

we're MIND BLOWING. JAW DROPPING. "HOW CAN GRAPHICS GET ANY MORE REALISTIC?!"

For the newer generation, the remake will be the better version. But the original still stands as a nice title for nostalgia for all generations.

...but yea that guy is dumb. Both versions would be worth playing equally, I don't know about either of them being "better" per say.

i'm not mad cause he would choose which is better. If a 10 year old came up to me and likes the remake, then I understand why. He didn't grow up with a PS2. But to say play one without playing the other is ********.

 

[silverforte]

I'm the type to believe that if we love something, we should hope for more of that. I LOVE FF7, I want more of it. I'm so happy that FF7 is still current, that new content from that universe is consistently being made. As long as Square-enix puts their all into the remake, I'll enjoy it. Seeing Cloud in Smash, a ****ing REMAKE of FF7... Now is the absolute best time to be a fan of that game. Anyone who has a problem with it can just *not* buy the games or characters. It only makes sense they'd try to evolve the remake instead of just rehashing the exact same game with a new coat of paint. That would have been lazy and thoughtless if you ask me.

 

[Tri Knight]

The remake will probably be better guys. They're recreating the same game that we loved almost 20 years ago in the greatest way possible.

 

[RebelXII]

I'm not saying it won't be good. just keep in mind that it wasn't the people born in 2002 who want the remake. And plus I could be wrong. The remake may be better. But that's just my reaction the 4chan dude said.

 

[Hanku Hirru]

I think anyone who says the FF7 Remake will suck or be a failure are likely butt hurt fans who are incapable of accepting change or people who weren't fans in the first place.

 

[The Merc]

Go back to the Link boards!!!

.... nah just playing, welcome to the bar, care for a drink?

Okay then

*goes back to the troll boards*
'Sure, why not?'

Some one on 4chan told me that you should play Final Fantasy 7 remake and never play the original. I've heard some stupid things on 4chane, but that was just stupid. No matter how great the graphics are, how talented the actors are or how immersive the combat is, the original will always be the better version.

That's just how it is.

Well, I'm only just starting to play the original and I don't have a PS4 so I can't play the remake, so..... yeah.

 

[ArcanaXIII]

The fact that people actually judge a game based on graphics.

 

[Deleted member]

I am OK that the remake is episodic, but I don't want to see a crapton of episodes like...
"EPISODE 1: THE BOMBING MISSION"
"EPISODE 2: CLOUD MEET AERITH"
...
"EPISODE 100: THE FINAL BATTLE"
I have faith that Square won't do that, but I will be pretty mad if it happens something like this...

 

[RebelXII]

They need to devote a whole disc to the cross dressing part.

but really though, why do people judge a game based on there graphics? That's stupid.

Okay then

*goes back to the troll boards*
'Sure, why not?'



Well, I'm only just starting to play the original and I don't have a PS4 so I can't play the remake, so..... yeah.

Make sure you tell us about the cross dressing part.