New Advanced Tech - Gliding Toss

I.T.P · Feb 4, 2008

You can name it whatever you'd like, this was originally hinted at me by Ikki the japanese pro, but since he's not on smashboards, and I confirmed it today, I'm posting it.

Basically, if you're holding an item and you roll forward and press A in the middle, the result will be the character gliding weirdly instead of rolling and throwing the item very quickly in the middle while advancing a considerable distance.

best attempted by Peach's turnips, works for all characters and all items as far as I know.

F@G · Feb 4, 2008

Kewl. Peach is gonna have an advantage then?

Dark Sonic · Feb 4, 2008

That's pretty wierd. Maybe it'll help Peach/Link/Omilar/Whoever else can pull out items' metagames.

jdub03 · Feb 4, 2008

Can you put some vids up?

I.T.P · Feb 4, 2008

I'll Put up a vid of it tommorow, gonna go to sleep soon.

•Col• · Feb 4, 2008

Cool! ^_^ So it can be used with Link and his bombs?

I.T.P · Feb 4, 2008

haven't tried it, but probably yes.

PanzerOceania · Feb 4, 2008

you might be able to use the bomb as a smokescreen so they can't see what move you are doing or just for slight mindgame, especially with the smaller toon link who has the thick cell shaded bomb smoke.

ynnek123 · Feb 4, 2008

lolz the metagame is evolving and the game is 4 days out in japan

yolky · Feb 4, 2008

I think this is a DeDeDe exsclusive chaingrab, only effective on heavy characters. I really haven't seen it used with any other characters, and never noticed him holding an item. Vids would be appreciated though..

X-x-Dyce-x-X · Feb 4, 2008

So this works with all personal items, too?

Peach's turnips, Link/ToonLink's bombs, Diddy's peanuts?

How about Dedede's minions, or Olimar's Pikmin?

ynnek123 · Feb 4, 2008

yolky said:
I think this is a DeDeDe exsclusive chaingrab, only effective on heavy characters. I really haven't seen it used with any other characters, and never noticed him holding an item. Vids would be appreciated though..

He used the dthrow CG against a pikachu in some vid, but pika escaped after 2 throws.

edit: you cant hold waddle dees or pikmin

I.T.P · Feb 4, 2008

yolky said:
I think this is a DeDeDe exsclusive chaingrab, only effective on heavy characters. I really haven't seen it used with any other characters, and never noticed him holding an item. Vids would be appreciated though..

this has nothing to do with DDD's chaingrab, this is a glitch that glides you forward while throwing an item with all characters with invincible frames, It's basically the Length of a forward roll only without the lag or the turnaround

Dark Sonic · Feb 4, 2008

So all the characters with items have just basically gained a wavedash, but with invincibility frames? That's freakin' awesome!

I.T.P · Feb 4, 2008

Sonic Wave said:
So all the characters with items have just basically gained a wavedash, but with invincibility frames? That's freakin' awesome!

It's close to a wavedash, but it's a bit laggy in the end, It's more of an advancing fast throw for items. it's not as good as it sounds, but it's pretty cool

PXG · Feb 4, 2008

So, its like a psuedo wavedash? Hmmmm.....Interesting. If this is true, I get an even greater speed advantage. :D

draigaran · Feb 4, 2008

Videos would be nice and informative.

Ruggeth · Feb 4, 2008

Diddy kong does it with his banana peels.

Crispy4001 · Feb 4, 2008

Why not call it the "roll toss" or the "glide toss"?

'Throw' is going to get people confused about it being a grab.

I.T.P · Feb 4, 2008

Crispy4001 said:
Why not call it the "roll toss" or the "glide toss"?

'Throw' is going to get people confused about it being a grab.

Point Taken.

how about "Gliding toss"?

S2 · Feb 4, 2008

Very interesting, I'm looking forward to seeing the vid.

I suppose it'll benefit item producing characters the most like Peach, ZSS (armor), ROB, etc.

Crispy4001 · Feb 4, 2008

I.T.P said:
Point Taken.

how about "Gliding toss"?

Sounds great to me.

... Well, if I really wanted to nitpick I'd say people would get it confused with the glide too. :laugh:

But this should work if no one thinks of a suitable alternative.

X-x-Dyce-x-X · Feb 4, 2008

Well, why not call it a "Wave Toss"? Closest thing to a Wave Dash that we've got so far. Lolz. I think that sounds fitting.

Ummm... can we get a list of who can do it on their own?

So far we have:
Peach, Link, Toon Link, Wario (bike parts), Zamus (post-FS, Varia Suit parts)

Can Diddy hold his banana peels?
Does it work with Snake and his 'nades?
Also, I heard that Diddy's peanuts can be caught, (full shell directly from the pop gun, not the ones that crack on the floor) can you hold/throw those, too? Or do you eat them instantaneously?

I.T.P · Feb 4, 2008

I'll check these tommorow and make the vid.

Crispy4001 · Feb 4, 2008

Slide Toss?

ro0kie42 · Feb 4, 2008

i just tried it. i just do a rolling dodge and hit a in the middle? it didn't work.

X-x-Dyce-x-X · Feb 4, 2008

I.T.P said:
I'll check these tommorow and make the vid.

Awesome. You da man.

Also, my vote goes to Slide Toss or Wave Toss.
Gliding is already a technique, so naming it Glide Toss will just get confusing.

okiyama · Feb 4, 2008

X-x-Dyce-x-X said:
Awesome. You da man.

Also, my vote goes to Slide Toss or Wave Toss.
Gliding is already a technique, so naming it Glide Toss will just get confusing.

I think if in the video the character actually lifts off the ground or cancels the roll animation adn just... glides that name is better but if not then slide/wave toss is better.

I'm really interested to see this it sounds very interesting.

X-x-Dyce-x-X · Feb 4, 2008

The character doesn't lift off the ground. Did you read the description? And even so, Glide Toss would still be misleading because it sounds like only characters who can glide will be able to do it.

PanzerOceania · Feb 4, 2008

X-x-Dyce-x-X said:
Awesome. You da man.

Also, my vote goes to Slide Toss or Wave Toss.
Gliding is already a technique, so naming it Glide Toss will just get confusing.

SKID MISSILE (missile as in projectile, play on the word scud missile)

I agree that gliding is also already a move

the only problem I see with wave toss is that wavedashing is out so some people might be confused

skid because your skidding along the ground.

Firestorm88 · Feb 4, 2008

Wouldn't Link and YLink hurt themselves in the middle if they threw their bombs? >_>

leafgreen386 · Feb 4, 2008

Firestorm88 said:
Wouldn't Link and YLink hurt themselves in the middle if they threw their bombs? >_>

If I read this correctly, don't you have invincibility while you're moving? So I'd assume they wouldn't take damage.

PanzerOceania · Feb 4, 2008

or it'd be just enough in front of you not to hurt you, itś hard to say without actually SEEING it, which we will soon enough.

X-x-Dyce-x-X · Feb 4, 2008

PanzerOceania said:
SKID MISSILE (missile as in projectile, play on the word scud missile)

I agree that gliding is also already a move

the only problem I see with wave toss is that wavedashing is out so some people might be confused

skid because your skidding along the ground.

Yea, but since there's no Wavedashing in Brawl, I don't think that should make much of a difference.

But y'know what? F**K WAVE TOSS! Skid Missile kicks WAY more butt than whatever anybody else has said!

Firestorm88 said:
Wouldn't Link and YLink hurt themselves in the middle if they threw their bombs? >_>

Well, as long as the bomb doesn't land where you do I think you should be fine. Wouldn't it land ahead of you?

PanzerOceania · Feb 4, 2008

it'd be great if you were close enough to an opponent to combo by hitting them with the projectile and immediately go into a grab

--kickass.

dark_Illusion_hokage · Feb 4, 2008

Crap i can't do that with my mains.
T-T

X-x-Dyce-x-X · Feb 4, 2008

PanzerOceania said:
it'd be great if you were close enough to an opponent to combo by hitting them with the projectile and immediately go into a grab

--kickass.

That sounds like it would work for Link and his bombs at really low levels thanks to his extended grab, which is good for me because he's my main, but I think there's too much lag after the throw? Something like that was metioned? Somewhere? Right? (Quick! Someone back me up on this!

Norm · Feb 4, 2008

Nice so the advanced techs start.

PanzerOceania · Feb 4, 2008

X-x-Dyce-x-X said:
That sounds like it would work for Link and his bombs at really low levels thanks to his extended grab, which is good for me because he's my main, but I think there's too much lag after the throw? Something like that was metioned? Somewhere? Right? (Quick! Someone back me up on this!

hmm, probably, ****, well some other characters might be able to do it too. I was hoping for Link also, I guess we'll have to wait and see, Toon Link is faster right? so it might just be enough time.

here's hoping.

X-x-Dyce-x-X · Feb 4, 2008

PanzerOceania said:
hmm, probably, ****, well some other characters might be able to do it too. I was hoping for Link also, I guess we'll have to wait and see, Toon Link is faster right? so it might just be enough time.

here's hoping.

Good point about Toon Link.

Ummm... does a character's traction have any bearing on the distance traveled?

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