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DarkDragoon · Mar 25, 2008

The actual countering portion has no range, but you do reappear a bit away from where you were standing.
-DD

Rhambo · Mar 25, 2008

I main Lucario, if you want to add me to your list. Could you also try and include friend codes in the list?

Krugz · Mar 26, 2008

Didn't see anyone mention it so: Did you know you could go downward with the Up B? If you Up B and immediately hit to go downward you can go straight down, an easy way to get to the ground quick. I mainly use this to fake out players or when I come back from over the edge but high enough to com back down towards the ledge and grab on. You can go 100% down vertically, so it's possible to grab the ledge from way high up, it works well if your opponent is trying to get you above the platform on Final D. Just thought I'd post this and see what happens, hopefully this isn't pointless information. Good job on the main post anyhow :D.

Milln · Mar 26, 2008

Krugz said:
Didn't see anyone mention it so: Did you know you could go downward with the Up B? If you Up B and immediately hit to go downward you can go straight down, an easy way to get to the ground quick. I mainly use this to fake out players or when I come back from over the edge but high enough to com back down towards the ledge and grab on. You can go 100% down vertically, so it's possible to grab the ledge from way high up, it works well if your opponent is trying to get you above the platform on Final D. Just thought I'd post this and see what happens, hopefully this isn't pointless information. Good job on the main post anyhow :D.

We know and have said that you can direct his UpB in any direction. This includes straight down. =x

Doval · Mar 26, 2008

Not a Lucario player, but I found all the Aura Sphere damages and their corresponding % ranges, so I figured I'd post them here. Sorry if this has already been posted.

Lucario %____Aura Sphere Damage
0-28%_______5-13%
29-38%______5-14%
39-48%______6-15%
49-57%______6-16%
58-56%______6-17%
68-78%______7-18%
79-90%______7-19%
91-103% _____8-20%
104-116%____8-21%
117-128%____8-22%
129-141%____9-23%
142-154%____9-24%
155-166%____10-25%
167+%______10-26%

Testing was done in Training Mode if anyone needs to know.

Milln · Mar 26, 2008

Doval said:
Not a Lucario player, but I found all the Aura Sphere damages and their corresponding % ranges, so I figured I'd post them here. Sorry if this has already been posted.

Lucario %____Aura Sphere Damage
0-28%_______5-13%
29-38%______5-14%
39-48%______6-15%
49-57%______6-16%
58-56%______6-17%
68-78%______7-18%
79-90%______7-19%
91-103% _____8-20%
104-116%____8-21%
117-128%____8-22%
129-141%____9-23%
142-154%____9-24%
155-166%____10-25%
167+%______10-26%

Testing was done in Training Mode if anyone needs to know.

It's on... the first page.... =\

Doval · Mar 26, 2008

Except, not quite. The first page only shows the charged up damages at 50% intervals. It doesn't include uncharged damages, it leaves out everything in between, and it's slightly misleading because Aura Sphere maxes out at 167%, not 200%

Milln · Mar 26, 2008

Hmm... Alright. =o I take it back, then.

Boomaler · Mar 26, 2008

<-- Lucario main

G-Beast · Mar 27, 2008

Q: How do I unlock Lucario?
-A: Fight Lucario in SSE as MetaKnight and WIN or complete all levels of Target Test Difficulty with 1 character.

you dont need to be meta knight to unlock him, i used lucario in that fight and i unlocked him after i saved and stopped playing SSE for the day

add me to the Lucario users, as he is my main

PraKirJaq · Mar 27, 2008

Doval: Does that take in diminishing attacks into play as well? Either way, this is pretty useful.

Zane Fleia · Mar 27, 2008

I main Lucario and Kirby. That count? ^_^

tedward2000 · Mar 28, 2008

Im very sure this has been answered or fixed, but lucarios downB is double team not Me First. (I apologize if this is spam)

My question is though, his Neutralair normally hits once. One match however, just using the attack once, I hit DK twice. First it sent him left, but lucarios other hand came and hit him the other direction, right. Ive only pulled this off once (or as mush as I can remember). So Is lucarios neutralair a two hit attack thats strong enough and only hits once? or did I just get lucky?

ss118 · Mar 28, 2008

I had something like that happen. can't remember who, though.....
anyway, the first hit way most likely a phantom hit of some sorts. that's how it looked with mine

Rayku · Mar 28, 2008

Yeah, I play Lucario religiously and that has never happened to me before. Might just be me, so my opinion is just another experience thing.

Doval · Mar 28, 2008

PraKirJaq said:
Doval: Does that take in diminishing attacks into play as well? Either way, this is pretty useful.

Damage doesn't decrease in Training Mode.

MysticKenji · Mar 28, 2008

@tedward

Nair has two hits.

Zink · Mar 28, 2008

I think the guide needs an update, with stuff like turning the last hit of jab combo into Force Palm, the airdodge-nair approach, wallhang tricks, mebbe more matchups...

Milln · Mar 28, 2008

Wallhang tricks ~~are totally two weeks~~ are totally one week from now, in Inner Fire 43. Oh, man, I never thought i'd find so much while staying up all night hopped on a new energy drink I decided to try.

Edit: Decided to switch videos. Wallhangs are more important than just General Tricks.

dysfunkshunal · Mar 29, 2008

Add Dysfunkshunal to the list. ;D

Edit: Of the mained Lucario list.

AuraHammer · Mar 30, 2008

Here is something that is pissing me off alot. My brother keeps saying that I keep playing cheap with Lucario when he is using Pikachu. I keep dodging and keep spamming neutral B defensivley and use Down B when it is obvious he is doing a Side B, a smash attack or If im lucky Down B. My brother keeps saying Im a coward because I keep dodging and use neutral B because pikachu is too fast for Lucario. (I do it for DDD too but it is a different story)

What should I say for my Brother to shut up and is Down b a "cheap" attack?

AuraHammer · Mar 30, 2008

Srry double post but is there such thing as being cheap in Brawl? And if there is explain. And if not.. :chuckle:

Milln · Mar 30, 2008

Tell your brother to stop being so predictable and you'll have to change tactics.

AuraHammer · Mar 30, 2008

I do other tatics too. But that is the only thing my brother says is cheap. Its also because I know what hes doing and I know how to counter it. My Brother keeps using dashing attacks to catch me so I have 3 options. 1. Sheild Grab 2. Dodge and Aura Sphere 3. Double Team

also to counter Thunder while he is Edgeguarding when getting back on the stage 90% of the time there is no other way besides Double Teaming. I also spam Neutral B and dodge when I have High damage and I can cause alot.

*I also use the common know how in this guide too. I go amazing against him using it. I just need to practice on Side B Chain* (Different story)

My Brother says 2 and 3 are cheap and rants about that. He is younger than me and I need a way to get into his thick head that my maneuvers are not cheap and cowardly.

I need help explainin that.

07Brett07 · Mar 30, 2008

Well not to be mean toward your brother but I think that he is just coming up with lame excuses on why he always loses. Basically he is a sore-loser. *Note: from your posts it makes it seem as though he is always losing*

Also cheap....? If it works use it right! That is the thing. Out of all my years playing Smash, Halo, COD 4 and other video games that is not single player, whenever somebody loses they tend to get mad(if they are scrubs). And when they get mad they tend to say stuff like; "YOUR SO F***ING GAY! YOU ONLY USE THAT ONE MOVE! WHY DON'T YOU START PLAYING LIKE A REAL PERSON AND NOT JUST SPAM THAT ONE MOVE (Aura sphere/Double team in your case) BLAH BLAH BLAH WAH WAH WAH!"

Yes so he won't change. It's just a fact of life. Until he get's older and realizes that you can't always win he will always complain.

But if you want to try and tell him something tell him that it is not cheap is it works, for him to adapt his play style so that it can beat your style[mindgames, thunder jolt(neutral b), aerials, etc...] and that you can't win every match that you play.

Crazy Chaos · Mar 30, 2008

im maining Lucario now XD so you can add me to the list

PopeOfChiliTown · Mar 30, 2008

I'm a Lucario main.

Greenpoe · Mar 30, 2008

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but Lucario's up smash has a very interesting hitbox. The hitbox stays there for a half second or so after the aura disappears. Try it out yourself in training mode: Hit the CPU up, then use the up-smash slightly early, so that he'll fall into the hitbox just after it disappears. Viola! He'll get hit even though the aura is gone! This could be useful for an opponent that you expect to airdodge the move, so you can use it early, then they'll fall into it!

Why is the down-tilt rated with 1 power star on the first page? It has enough knockback that I've KO'd with it before.

crnsfs · Mar 30, 2008

Great thread! thanks alot really appreciate it, i main lucario as well if your still adding to the list : )

MysticKenji · Mar 30, 2008

Small note: The hitbox for Luke's Bair is his whole arm.

tedward2000 · Mar 31, 2008

MysticKenji said:
@tedward

Nair has two hits.

Thank you, and i've done it a few times now.
On that note, which hit is stronger? The first one, or the second? It happens very rarely, so if theres a difference, like the second one being stronger, perhaps using nair a bit early to hit an opponent with the second hit as a tactic. This is something to look into.

Oh and add me to the list of lucario mains, thanks.

Hestix · Mar 31, 2008

It's going to take so long for me to get used to these techs, but it will be worth it.
Add me to the Luc mains, I just gave up on Sheik.

Milln · Mar 31, 2008

Hestix said:
It's going to take so long for me to get used to these techs, but it will be worth it.
Add me to the Luc mains, I just gave up on Sheik.

Hestix. <3 You're welcome here.

MysticKenji · Mar 31, 2008

tedward2000 said:
Thank you, and i've done it a few times now.
On that note, which hit is stronger? The first one, or the second? It happens very rarely, so if theres a difference, like the second one being stronger, perhaps using nair a bit early to hit an opponent with the second hit as a tactic. This is something to look into.

First hit is stronger.
Second hit only does around 4% or so while first hit does 7%

EDIT:
First hit (front) = 7%
First hit (back) = 7%
Second hit (front) = 4%
Second hit (back) = 5%

Test done in Training Mode

FS Fantom · Mar 31, 2008

I don't think I've ever managed 2 hits with nair O_o

tedward2000 · Mar 31, 2008

MysticKenji said:
First hit is stronger.
Second hit only does around 4% or so while first hit does 7%

EDIT:
First hit (front) = 7%
First hit (back) = 7%
Second hit (front) = 4%
Second hit (back) = 5%

Test done in Training Mode

Thanks again, and im out of questions for now.

AuraHammer · Apr 3, 2008

Im going to fight in a tourney for my forum and I need counters for the following people.

Toon Link
Metaknight
Wolf
Olimar*
*Not that important.
They are used alot and Its going to be hard for me to beat fast swordsman. Help!

Milln · Apr 4, 2008

No one ever looks at the video topic....

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=153691

Toon Link's in there, there's a Wolf in there...We've discussed Olimar and Wolf... We haven't really talked about Meta Knight... hmm

I never had any problem against him... I do know that sh fair is tricky since he's so short. And he's fast enough to jack up your A > A > Force Palm 20% of the time.

JJ259 · Apr 4, 2008

Officially a Lucario main now...Kirby is now my close 2nd.

Might as well get added to that list =)

Yunaleskamodern · Apr 4, 2008

I apologize if this is an old tactic by lucario users, I havent had time to read through this therad but i found something interesting with lucario's hadoken charge thing

Again, i apologize if this is well known;

If you are charging Lucario's aura thing you can cancle directly into his counter instantainously, i havent gotten to test the usefulness of this yet but i dont see how it wouldent be**
Anytime durring his energy ball charge, you hold down block for an EXTREMELY small ammount of time (but NOT a tap) and instnatly hit U,D+b. You have to do the u,d+b extremely quicly and if done successfully, his guard wont even come up and he will go straight into the counter , he also wont leave the ground

anyways, i just thought ide share it incase no one posted it allready.

-futuresex

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