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Recent content by irokex13

  1. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    If you think that ZSS only starts her combos from a grab, I really doubt your experience fighting against ZSS. If you really, honestly believe that ZSS HAS to throw out a RAW frame 16 grab, you should not be talking about what ZSS does.
  2. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    I don't think it's so much of "people are too scared to debate" rather than a "why should I listen to players who are worse than me?". Sure, we can say everyone has an opinion, but when we've established that there are posters here who don't even go to tournaments, it's gets a little hard to...
  3. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    As much as I hate to contribute to this Marth vs Lucina argument, I gotta admit that this is a somewhat unfair way to look at the two. If you're going to put that much emphasis on the tipper and it's strengths, you must also look at it's downsides. For EVERY single time that Marth does not land...
  4. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Easy way to avoid pointless arguments.
  5. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Now this seems somewhat obvious to me, but if you only look at tournaments from the LAST TWO MONTHS and only include the tournaments where her BEST PLAYERS attend, then of course she's going to look amazing. If I only look at tournaments that WaDi/Rich Brown/Abadango attend, then M2 looks top 5...
  6. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    I get you don't like Cloud or whatever and that you really like ZSS, but there is no reason to straight up lie about results. She regularly gets around the least results of the top tiers. Being top 5 really doesn't matter at this point. All of the top 11 are viable contenders to win majors.
  7. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Aight, so one thing I don't understand is when people see a top player lose to ANOTHER TOP PLAYER and have the nerve to comment something like "Man, 'X' really isn't that good". It's very much possible to get 2 stocked by ZeRo/Ranai/Kirihara/Nairo/VoiD, hell, any top player and still be good...
  8. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    It might just be me, but isn't it a tad odd to say "X player is falling off" when they're STILL IN THE TOURNAMENT!?
  9. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Random fact of the day, but did you know that party games and fighting games are not mutually exclusive terms? A game can in fact be a party game, while still being a fighting game.
  10. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    If you're platform camping Bowser, you can literally react to his command grab. It's frame 17 in the air, and it's only active for 1 frame. You have at least 25 frames to move out of the way (frame 8 jump squat + frame 17 grab), so if you can't react to that at least somewhat consistently, idk...
  11. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Can't help but feel like people are forgetting about Bowser's :rosalina: MU. Also can't help but feel like we're jumping to conclusions a bit too quickly. I'm hesitant to believe that Bowser has this many good MUs against these top/high tier characters. From a :4cloud2: perspective, and from...
  12. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    For some reason, I thought you were talking about Reflex at KiT this weekend.
  13. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Reflex did not beat Wrath at this tournament. He lost to Ketsen :4corrinf:, then got eliminated by Wrath.
  14. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    That's probably because she's not a pressure based character. Rosalina isn't trying to overwhelm opponents with speed. Controlling the pace of the game is one of her biggest things. She's a defensive wall that can control a lot of space.
  15. irokex13

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    I still feel like you are missing the point. It is BAD if ZSS lands a SH aerial on me. I can die from that. So if I have something that actively discourages her from jumping in on me, that's a good thing. I have accomplished my goal by making her hesitant to choose the SH approach option. This...
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