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I didn't think that has EVER been considered a real 50/50.Has anyone's opinion onchanged now that the Uthrow Thunder thing being a 50/50 seems not to be correct in practice?
ESAM connects it around 105-130 with a ~90%(or higher) success rate.
As in you thought it was guaranteed, or straight up doesn't work as a 50/50?
That it didn't work as a 50/50. I can see it being 5050 on low jump/airspeed chars.
My only guess is Esams nerves are getting the better of him. He can consistently do it on everyone but the player that seems to cut him short every time he's making an amazing run at a tournament
Das Koopa
That's a shame, but a totally understandable decision from 2manycooks. r.i.p Doc's meta thoughhttps://twitter.com/TEG_2ManyCooks/status/817978099174227968
2ManyCooks has dropped Doc.
EDIT: Smash: The Resolution (Quebec) (88 Entrants)
1st: SuperGirlKels
2nd: Holy
3rd: Deathorse
4th: Stroumbert
5th: Fairlines
5th: BreaD
7th: Khal
7th: Smokk
9th: Flieskiller
9th: Atlas
9th pepsi
9th: Sensuell
13th: Space
13th: MrGommi
13th: GoulMania
13th: Nini
Canada, especially the eastern side is so amazingly diverse. This might not be 100% accurate (Gommi might've use Olimar, for instance) but I think it's close.
,,,,
A lot of Florida hitters ending up in 17th or worse; Dyr, Scatt, Xaltis, Seibrik, 8BitMan all at 17th, saj at 25th (losing to MuteAce, no less)I don't think it was posted yet, so Smash Conference results
Smash Conference LXIX (Orlando,Florida) (225 entrants)
Bracket:https://smash.gg/tournament/smash-conference-lxix-3/events/wii-u-singles/standings
1st MVG|Salem
2nd Samsora
3rd PG|Esam
4th MVG FOX|Mew2king
5th PPG|WormyNugget
5th Myran
7th SS|Mr. E
7th VS|NickRiddle
9th Noble|Manny
9th ~MuteAce~
9th Child
9th Zurak
13th Oni|Day
13th PG|MVD
13th RoguePenguin
13th Cashmere
Did Dr Mario had a meta to begin with?That's a shame, but a totally understandable decision from 2manycooks. r.i.p Doc's meta though
I think this guy shows why Charizard is getting all his hype. Good ledge pressure, rage tanking, and getting kills at mid %. Something I noticed about Tosshi is that he takes advantage of Charizard's jumps and deceptive Nair to land, and that he stays mostly grounded and then starts short hopping once he gets predictable or he is confident enough to push pressure. I also find interesting that the matches looked very even and that both players look like they knew what they were doing, instead of the "I don't know the MU" syndrome when people get steamrolled by gimmicks.
It had one guy pushing it (then there was that one time Nairo clowned on ESAM 3-0). Now there's none, lol
And Esam lost to a Pikachu 3-0...Guy is kinda inconsistent.
I posted the top 16 in Das Koopa's Results thread earlier today.Kumite in Tennessee (111 entrants)
1. RNG | Dabuz
2. IMT | ANTi
3. Pugwest
4. Wrath
5. Sonido
5. Ketsen
7. TheReflexWonder
7. Dog w/Hips
Source
Streamed on twitch.tv/TourneyLocator
I hear this Dabuz guy is pretty good.
Reflex did not beat Wrath at this tournament. He lost to Ketsen
, then got eliminated by Wrath.
Reflex did not beat Wrath at this tournament. He lost to Ketsen
For some reason, I thought you were talking about Reflex at KiT this weekend.
He's not bad, but he's also not especially good. And the tournaments are showing that.What's the deal with
all readily come to mind. Note that this is not my bottom anything, but instead is used to show a few characters that tend to 50:50 split community opinions between bottom and middle.Bottom tier
, low and maybe but they could be low-mid too. IMO are probably the next worst group, low-mid tier but have shown to be better than the previous groups. We might see drop to join low-mid in the future. PS is better than all of the above. seem better at lower levels where the opponents don't cheese them. Falco and Kirby are slightly better but don't really have anything going for them, at least not for solo viability. Dr.Mario is a worse Mario and his mobility and recovery or lack of bring him down more than any other clone. Pacman seemed good but counterplay was developed, DLC came and some characters were buffed. DDD somehow gets results but I'm not sure why. I guess he lets players be creative and is very rewarding for outsmarting the opponent.
No future:
The Smash 4 engine seems deliberately designed to counter Puff. Should I say more?His mobility is garbage, his frame data is nothing to show off, he is combo food, and his recovery sucks too. Due to this he loses to almost everyone.She is fundamentally unreliable due to her pathetic sourspots, almost useless specials, and her general sluggishness. Her MU spread stinks for this reason.He is almost the same as Ganondorf, except DDD had players who did something with him (but most of them dropped him already so his meta is mostly dead).His meta is literally non-existent. He has 0 points on
Das Koopa
's competitive data. on 1111 has no meta as well.Gimmicky character who gets blown up by MU experience. Meta mostly dead with no notable players left.He may have 3 or so good top tier MUs, but he loses to almost everyone else, so his counterpick potential is useless. No one notable solo mains him.Does Falco has a meta to begin with?With 2manycooks dropping him we can safely declare Dr Mario's meta dead. outclasses him completely. Unlike , the gap between Doc and Mario is very big, due to Dr Mario having sluggish mobility and a terrible recovery.She is the poster girl of a gimmick. Her placings have never been good and eventually her remaining players will disappear. Waveguider is proof to my prophecy.
Characters that are bottom 10 have either some or all of the following traits: mobility ranging from mediocre to poor, grab games ranging from okay to lousy, lackluster options in neutral, and strengths that are outshined by superior characters.
165148 147 139.5 132.5 129 105 102 91.5 83 81.5 80 74.5 65 65 61.5 54.5 49.5 45.5 40.5 34 19 18 18 12 11.5 7 5.5 0, , , , . With Miis it's probably , , , , .Something that's puzzled me for a long time is DDD consistently gets better results than bottom 5, this time beating Kirby and Bjr. He might have enough survive ability and punishing power to boost him slightly.Decline:
Consistently ineffectual/irrelevant:
I've been saying it for a while, but the bottom 5 excluding Miis is
Gotta bump Falco outta bottom tier I seeI'll be making the full post on this later tonight (Charts are done!) but these scores are pretty indicative.
Scored below 200 for the March 15th-December 31st year:
Clones:
Mii Fighters:
Likely nowhere near low tier:
Recently rising from prior position:
Stagnant:
Decline:
Consistently ineffectual/irrelevant:
I've been saying it for a while, but the bottom 5 excluding Miis is
Nobody else who's good uses them. And Earth frequently uses Corrin which splits the points he gets between two characters.
Not a widely known player, but a player named Bluebeast mains Pit/Corrin and uses them both frequently, on top of placing very well at regionals within the area (North and Central Florida). It's not a solo-main, but it's *something*.
I mean, there's more Rosa/MM/Tinks on a regional level than Pits, who seem to have Earth and Kuro doing almost all the work.
