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[Shroob]

The biggest issue with AI art (and really, generative AI) is that it's unregulated. People should have the option to opt out their works, voice, and images for data scraping, and there should be tighter rules on using AI to spread misinfo (if not already covered by libel/slander rules).

The thing is, no company wants their work in the data scraping system, but at the same time AI makes it easier to cut costs and corners so... the only thing we're getting is stricter copyright laws.

I take it back all AI is bad.

This is the future SnakeFighter64 dreams of

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Lol imagine a crossover between Angry Beavers and Danny Phantom where Daggett gains ghost powers from a ghost portal Norbert builds to study the afterlife. Lol. Shenagians would occur. Poor Norbert he'd be getting a bigger headache than before.

 

[HyperSomari64]

This is the future SnakeFighter64 dreams of

Nah, she thinks a future where is the same as our, but with the small difference: the word "Scrimblo Bimblo" is now considered a slur for platforming cartoon characters.

 

[Noipoi]

Nah, she thinks a future where is the same as our, but with the small difference: the word "Scrimblo Bimblo" is now considered a slur for platforming cartoon characters.

You clearly don’t know Snake. Her vision of the future would certainly be…something.

Which is why I can’t allow her to run for office

 

[TheMightyP]

This is the future SnakeFighter64 dreams of

I do want to make it clear thay even though generative AI had made for some decent ****posts and I see niche usage for it, the negatives outweigh the positive by a lot so I'm all for the regulation of it. They're gonna **** it up aren't they

 

[Shroob]

You clearly don’t know Snake. Her vision of the future would certainly be…something.

Which is why I can’t allow her to run for office

In the future, memes have been outlawed.

 

[Noipoi]

In the future, memes have been outlawed.

I’ll join the resistance

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Alright you ****ing nerds, what version of Blues Champ battle theme is the best in all the pokemon games

 

[TheMightyP]

The SnakeIA when my son boots up Fortnite 2 (he forgot to set his VPN to another country)

 

[SnakeFighter64]

It's true though. Godzilla is "Too Big" for Multiversus. Look what Sakurai had to go through to make Ridley work after the fan demand having to make a whole new model and design of the character.

Iron Giant is canonically 50 feet tall. Godzilla even at his smallest is 160 feet. It would come off as awkward in terms of proportions. And look what Sakurai had to do with Ridley to make him work by downsizing him. New model and design.

I wish there was a dislike button.

Like at most Iron Giant is two Supermans tall in this game, and Superman is not 25 feet tall. As long as he’s a big character like IG it’s fine. Seriously. It’s all just supposed to be fun and games anyway. As long as he’s big that’s all you need. Characters don’t need to be at their cannon heights.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I wish there was a dislike button.

Like at most Iron Giant is two Supermans tall in this game, and Superman is not 25 feet tall. As long as he’s a big character like IG it’s fine. Seriously. It’s all just supposed to be fun and games anyway. As long as he’s big that’s all you need. Characters don’t need to be at their cannon heights.

Again. Sakurai had to make a totally new model and design from scratch for Ridley to make him even work.

Godzilla being downsized from any version would just seem awkward and way out of proportion. Given Godzilla is bigger when compared to Ridley who is canonically around Iron Giant's canon size. That's kinda gonna be a problem tbh.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

This is the future SnakeFighter64 dreams of

Ok. I’ve actually done some thinking about that. And the thing that I like about the copyright system is that these franchises end up linked together in different “pantheons” (like instead of the Greek, Norse, and Egyptian pantheons you have the Disney, Warner Bros, and Universal pantheons), as well as it making it harder, in theory, to violate the true essence of a character. The first thing is kind of just a tertiary side effect of the system and not its intended purpose, so it would be foolish to keep it around for that reason. The second thing isn’t even real because… well… stuff like the Velma cartoon and the SnyderVerse exist and they’re officially licensed. The companies don’t care and it doesn’t stop the characters names from being tarnished by bad adaptations. So like.. maybe don’t have stricter copyright laws.

Sure, I’ll miss the current pantheon-esque system of franchise organization, but we all have to make sacrifices for the betterment of society.

 

[Noipoi]

Again. Sakurai had to make a totally new model and design from scratch for Ridley to make him even work.

Godzilla being downsized from any version would just seem awkward and way out of proportion. Given Godzilla is bigger when compared to Ridley who is canonically around Iron Giant's canon size. That's kinda gonna be a problem tbh.

Alright fine man you can have that opinion, you don’t have to bring it up every single time. If we have to have this same argument every time someone brings up the possibility of Godzilla in Multiversus I’m gonna slap you through the computer screen.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Again. Sakurai had to make a totally new model and design from scratch for Ridley to make him even work.

Godzilla being downsized from any version would just seem awkward and way out of proportion. Given Godzilla is bigger when compared to Ridley who is canonically around Iron Giant's canon size. That's kinda gonna be a problem tbh.

Multiversus isn’t being made by Sakurai. And even if it was, you’re not speaking to some truth about the universe, you’re just saying a made up rule that makes your personal hangups feel valid.

 

[TheMightyP]

Ok. I’ve actually done some thinking about that. And the thing that I like about the copyright system is that these franchises end up linked together in different “pantheons” (like instead of the Greek, Norse, and Egyptian pantheons you have the Disney, Warner Bros, and Universal pantheons), as well as it making it harder, in theory, to violate the true essence of a character. The first thing is kind of just a tertiary side effect of the system and not its intended purpose, so it would be foolish to keep it around for that reason. The second thing isn’t even real because… well… stuff like the Velma cartoon and the SnyderVerse exist and they’re officially licensed. The companies don’t care and it doesn’t stop the characters names from being tarnished by bad adaptations. So like.. maybe don’t have stricter copyright laws.

Sure, I’ll miss the current pantheon-esque system of franchise organization, but we all have to make sacrifices for the betterment of society.

I gotta be honest I have no idea what you're trying to say here

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I gotta be honest I have no idea what you're trying to say here

TLDR: I’ve thought about it, and my reasons for clinging to copyright law were silly and irrational.

 

[Lamperouge]

The only solution is to put in baby Godzilla

 

[Noipoi]

The only solution is to put in baby Godzilla

Give me the real baby Godzilla

 

[Shroob]

Again. Sakurai had to make a totally new model and design from scratch for Ridley to make him even work.

Godzilla being downsized from any version would just seem awkward and way out of proportion. Given Godzilla is bigger when compared to Ridley who is canonically around Iron Giant's canon size. That's kinda gonna be a problem tbh.

Mike, why are you like this.

 

[TheMightyP]

The whole Godzilla is too big thing is gonna go away when the trailer explains that Rick hit him with his shrink ray and now he can fight in Multiversus

 

[Noipoi]

It’s actually just a guy in the Godzilla suit

 

[TheMightyP]

Also having Iron Giant willingly fight shows they do not care all that much about being respectful to the source material lol.

 

[Lamperouge]

Tbh, I think it'd be neat if Multiversus (or any future platform fighter really) included a giant character. I know it's a different kind of game but Tatsunoko vs Capcom managed to make it work.

 

[Zinith]

If Godzilla still feels like a giant force of destruction relative to the rest of the fighters, no problem

 

[Schnee117]

It’s actually just a guy in the Godzilla suit

This is the thing that gets me about the proportions part of the argument.
Godzilla is literally just a dude in a suit most of the time in his portrayals. The same type of suits they use in all the other toku **** and one of the main things that always happens in some of them is the monster suddenly grows to skyscraper size.

And honestly, Monsterverse Godzilla doesn't exactly stray too far from that design ethos despite being fully CG. He's still a chunky lad, he's not exactly bordering on being a walking skeleton like Ridley.

 

[TheMightyP]

Tbh, I think it'd be neat if Multiversus (or any future platform fighter really) included a giant character. I know it's a different kind of game but Tatsunoko vs Capcom managed to make it work.

Well Multiversus does already have one

But I agree, more body types makes the game more fun

 

[Schnee117]

Capcom have heard you and are now fast tracking Abigail for Season 2 of Street Fighter 6

 

[Jondolio]

Ok. I’ve actually done some thinking about that. And the thing that I like about the copyright system is that these franchises end up linked together in different “pantheons” (like instead of the Greek, Norse, and Egyptian pantheons you have the Disney, Warner Bros, and Universal pantheons), as well as it making it harder, in theory, to violate the true essence of a character. The first thing is kind of just a tertiary side effect of the system and not its intended purpose, so it would be foolish to keep it around for that reason. The second thing isn’t even real because… well… stuff like the Velma cartoon and the SnyderVerse exist and they’re officially licensed. The companies don’t care and it doesn’t stop the characters names from being tarnished by bad adaptations. So like.. maybe don’t have stricter copyright laws.

Sure, I’ll miss the current pantheon-esque system of franchise organization, but we all have to make sacrifices for the betterment of society.

Good character development

 

[Shroob]

Capcom have heard you and are now fast tracking Abigail for Season 2 of Street Fighter 6

My entire knowledge of this character comes from a 40 minute video essay from someone who talks about Gen 1 Pokemon and Lego.



So sign me up.

 

[Lamperouge]

Capcom have heard you and are now fast tracking Abigail for Season 2 of Street Fighter 6

SF6 managed to make Ed of all characters pretty cool so I wouldn't be completely against seeing him again.

 

[TheMightyP]

Good character development

I'm a lawyer for Disney and I disagree

 

[Jondolio]

Had a thought the other day, and I think it would be really cool if they made a game with like 0 text other than the start and pause menu. No cutscenes, no dialogue, no tutorial, no optional text, everything is delivered through gameplay and any story elements are in the background for the player to piece together.

I kinda wanna make that game but I don't know enough about game design to do it

 

[TheMightyP]

Had a thought the other day, and I think it would be really cool if they made a game with like 0 text other than the start and pause menu. No cutscenes, no dialogue, no tutorial, no optional text, everything is delivered through gameplay and any story elements are in the background for the player to piece together.

I kinda wanna make that game but I don't know enough about game design to do it

And Knuckles

 

[Jondolio]

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And Knuckles

I meant a good game. Sonic was never good.

Jokes aside, I'd like a modern game like that. I know the AAA industry would never produce something like this tho

Also also, Sonic 3 & Knuckles' story is very simple compared to what I had in mind. Also also also, it doesn't even apply, cause it has a few cutscenes and stuff like -get blue spheres- is text

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

YEEEAAAH LETS GO GIRL, FRYE GOT A WIN

 

[TheMightyP]

I meant a good game. Sonic was never good.

Jokes aside, I'd like a modern game like that. I know the AAA industry would never produce something like this tho

Also also, Sonic 3 & Knuckles' story is very simple compared to what I had in mind. Also also also, it doesn't even apply, cause it has a few cutscenes and stuff like -get blue spheres- is text

Well I gotta be honest, that's gonna be tough to do when everything is straight gameplay. Gotta have the people take a breather so they can soak in the story elements, otherwise the game is gonna have some severe pacing issues.

Also counting explaining the rules as "text" is kinda stretching it a bit, you gotta tell the player how to play the game via manual or in game text.

 

[Jondolio]

Well I gotta be honest, that's gonna be tough to do when everything is straight gameplay. Gotta have the people take a breather so they can soak in the story elements, otherwise the game is gonna have some severe pacing issues.

Also counting explaining the rules as "text" is kinda stretching it a bit, you gotta tell the player how to play the game via manual or in game text.

That's the neat thing, you don't

The player should just get good and figure it out for themselves

 

[KillerCage]

YEEEAAAH LETS GO GIRL, FRYE GOT A WIN

Wait...

FYRE FINALLY WON ANOTHER SPLATFEST!?!?

CONGRATULATIONS FRYE!!!

 

[TheMightyP]

That's the neat thing, you don't

The player should just get good and figure it out for themselves

Ok, then I got the game for you

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Even without the whole downsizing thing. The other hural for Godzilla is the licensing issues with Toho.

Remember Warner Bros. only distributes the MonsterVerse films, nothing more.

And given Toho's strange rules regarding Godzilla such as showing no emotions (Godzilla chuckling in GvK was Wingard managing to sneak that in without Toho knowing) and such in the films or as of late referring to him as a single individual species. It's not out of the realm of possilibity they'd be against Godzilla being downsized. Toho has always been strange with their rules.