Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
Uair is ZSS' best aerial out of shield. Nair is only DECENT against tall opponents that hit you with a laggy attack but even then uair is probably better.
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Zero Suit Samus Questions & Answers
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Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
If you're using Neutral Air out of shield, it would leave little opportunity to follow-up (even if it does hit) since it smacks them horizontally, rather than vertically.
It's much more reliable to use Uair if you're going for an aerial out of shield. Since it leaves the option of a follow up due to it sending your opponent above you, it's certainly your best option of racking up damage.
Personally, out of a shield, I like using jab cancel -> Down tilt. Even though they can pull up a Power Shield, the down tilt is so quick that if they don't roll, majority of the cast don't have decent attack options to really punish her for it. If they keep the shield up, you can just repeat to pressure them until they roll or drop it.
Down tilt, thanks to it's laglessness, makes following up with an aerial fairly easy.
But that's just me.
It's much more reliable to use Uair if you're going for an aerial out of shield. Since it leaves the option of a follow up due to it sending your opponent above you, it's certainly your best option of racking up damage.
Personally, out of a shield, I like using jab cancel -> Down tilt. Even though they can pull up a Power Shield, the down tilt is so quick that if they don't roll, majority of the cast don't have decent attack options to really punish her for it. If they keep the shield up, you can just repeat to pressure them until they roll or drop it.
Down tilt, thanks to it's laglessness, makes following up with an aerial fairly easy.
But that's just me.
Salem
Smash Champion
You mean single Jab to D-tilt?
Repeat of that move seems unpunishable for some reason. >_>
Salem
Smash Champion
Like Link for example? >_>
A Jab to D-tilt seems Link's not able to do much exept roll, but I should test this to be sure cause wifi doesn't help.
I know he's not able to grab cause the jab will come out first staggering him even after the D-tilt...
I should see all the characters who are forced to roll/dodge.
somethings on my mind....
1. when fighting, you get your opponent's % around 35-40, after that, if you dsmash and single jab or jab twice, they freeze, kinda.
. its weird.
2. tripping; ftilt downwards. anyone use this?
3. when edge hogging, if you jump back and fspecial 3 times; after the 3rd time, you can't do it anymore. (its actually for everyone with a zair or a move similar to that. but no one would do this in a match.)
1. when fighting, you get your opponent's % around 35-40, after that, if you dsmash and single jab or jab twice, they freeze, kinda.
. its weird.2. tripping; ftilt downwards. anyone use this?
3. when edge hogging, if you jump back and fspecial 3 times; after the 3rd time, you can't do it anymore. (its actually for everyone with a zair or a move similar to that. but no one would do this in a match.)
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Known known and known.somethings on my mind....
1. when fighting, you get your opponent's % around 35-40, after that, if you dsmash and single jab or jab twice, they freeze, kinda.
2. tripping; ftilt downwards. anyone use this?
3. when edge hogging, if you jump back and fspecial 3 times; after the 3rd time, you can't do it anymore. (its actually for everyone with a zair or a move similar to that. but no one would do this in a match.)
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
That's my point.
Very few characters have a way to react to her down tilt. It's really just getting it started up, and a jab canceling (single jab, preferably) is pretty much the simplest option a ZSS has at starting it up. Well, besides a dash attack, maybe, but the percentage for that is a tad bit strict.
Very few characters have a way to react to her down tilt. It's really just getting it started up, and a jab canceling (single jab, preferably) is pretty much the simplest option a ZSS has at starting it up. Well, besides a dash attack, maybe, but the percentage for that is a tad bit strict.
You'd be surprised, when it comes to a few characters.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
I actually use it on a regular basis with Zero Suit Samus, just for mindgames, really.
Could use it to stall on the ledge for a moment to try and punish your opponent when they come close to the ledge. But it's actually pretty useful. A tad bit risky at times though, because if they hit you off the stage without you touching the ground after the third time, you won't have an easy time recovering.
Nixernator
Smash Ace
Who tested ZSS's fthrow CG on snake? It appears that if Snake DI's down and spotdoges it misses...
And yes i'm fairly sure I'm buffering it correctly.
And yes i'm fairly sure I'm buffering it correctly.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
It's more of a Pseudo-Chain grab. Players have the ability to avoid it, though their options and limitations are based on split second actions and predictions. Personally, her chain grab seems somewhat useless to me. If they do avoid it, she can be punished far too easily. Your buffering has to be dead-on or you could end up throwing the entire match from a stupid mistake.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
If you're talking about the CG vs. everybody being useless... you're quite wrong. It makes the DDD matchup SO much easier.
IMO it sucks vs. Snake though.
Nixernator
Smash Ace
Yeah it works against heaps of people, but against Snake I'm 99% sure its a pseudo CG and any snake who knows the MU, DI's down, spotdodges and Ftilt's =(.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Yes, I mean against Snake. It's very useful against Dedede. Snake though, the timing is too strict, and Ftilt/Utilt is too threatening to ZSS.If you're talking about the CG vs. everybody being useless... you're quite wrong. It makes the DDD matchup SO much easier.
IMO it sucks vs. Snake though.
MdrnDayMercutio
Smash Champion
^ Lucario is great in crews. Aura for the win.
solecalibur
Smash Master
For the Tournament Placings / Ranking thread how many people have to be entered in the tounry?
edit - for my crew battles we have reverse mains crew battles
edit - for my crew battles we have reverse mains crew battles
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
Ok im tryin to use ZSS and my friend keeps complaining that ZSS is his wife and that i should stay away from her. Im secretly using her and am probably a better ZSS player than him. what should i do? And this is a serious question.
mountain_tiger
Smash Champion
Screw what your friend says. Play as whoever you want. WTF @ him calling a bunch of polygons his wife.
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
Thanx for that but i just sometimes feel bad cuz now he wants to main her. Its to the point where I would pick her and he just says "What are you doing. Your suppose to be my best friend." Its funny as hell but sometimes just sad.
Prove you have the better Zss.
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
awwww but ive been using him for a while lol. And yes i believe he is the most broken character sine bleach first introduced aizen. But i just love using ZSS she is one of my fav characters.
Snakeee
Smash Master
Just use whoever you want, but if you really feel bad and want to not use the same char anyway that's up to you. Btw, ZSS dittos are ******** and boring everywhere, but high level play. It's much more fun when you're not trying to outspace side B-s and D-smash, which are pretty useless the vast majority of the time
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
exactly i hate using the same characters as the people in my crew but ZSS is real fun and challenging to play as.
Yep. I love playing as fun characters with large learning curves. Take Link for example
Hope you have fun with ZSS :D
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
Yes link is another fun character to play with. Large learning curve characters are mostly unique and fun. Kinda like Sonic, that in a sense is why i like playin with sammy(ZSS).Yep. I love playing as fun characters with large learning curves. Take Link for example
Hope you have fun with ZSS :D
RuRu13
Smash Rookie
Well, to each their own. Your friend has a weird way of picking his mains. I'd hate to see who his other mains are...
Also...<_<
He wants his Wii back.
Also...<_<
He wants his Wii back.
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
Touche i see. But what do you have to say about this.!!!!!!
RuRu13
Smash Rookie
He said he's going to up tilt you....in the face.
Tuesday, You, Him, Final Destination.
Tuesday, You, Him, Final Destination.
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
Tell him to bring his snake and ill bring my ZSS.
RuRu13
Smash Rookie
Lol. He's so angry right now.
Do you still have my DMC3 and 4 BTW?
Do you still have my DMC3 and 4 BTW?
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
Question.....Who would be Zss' worst match-up??
Snakeee
Smash Master
10Falcossss
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
That's hilarious xp. So would you say falco?
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
I would say Luigi, but that's just me.
Luigi is a pain in the side for my ZSS.
Luigi is a pain in the side for my ZSS.
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
Really luigi? I thought you could just outprioritize the crap out of him.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
Luigi can be annoying but isn't as bad as Falco.
Hint the falco boards laugh at us because we think the matchup is worse than it is... supposedly.
Hint the falco boards laugh at us because we think the matchup is worse than it is... supposedly.