Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

[evmaxy54]

Wait, how does Diddy get better with customs? :O

 

[Trieste SP]

Wait, how does Diddy get better with customs? :O

He doesn't get necessarily better with customs, he just gets more kill options. As if he needs anymore...

 

[Space Stranger]

What the hell ?

You posted that here too ?

I'm EVERYWHERE!

So play nice.

 

[Trieste SP]

I'm EVERYWHERE!

So play nice.

Please don't hurt me . I'm sorry

 

[PUK]

Wait, how does Diddy get better with customs? :O

I heard that 1111 is OP and wins a lot of match.

 

[UkeNicky]

I think they should cut Diddy permanently, forever and replace with Daisy x'3

 

[Soul.]

I heard that 1111 is OP and wins a lot of match.

Can confirm

 

[Rizen]

Sure, work cancelled because of rain so not much for me to do today.

GGs
Sorry about all the SDs; I've been playing offline a lot and could not adjust to wifi. All my moves seemed to come out 1/2 a second late lol

 

[「 Derk 」]

GGs
Yeah there was a little lag. I missed a few shields while running through your projectiles because of it lol. You had a pretty good projectile wall going with Link. Was fun trying to get through it all haha

 

[Fernosaur]

Wait, how does Diddy get better with customs? :O

He gets an Up-B finisher that works out of d-throw and kills at like 80%.

He can't recover that well with it, but I think it only affects travel angle and not distance.

 

[Lavani]

Dr. Mario's dthrow>Dr. Tornado combo is really silly with rage, kills at like 80% near the edge. I also managed a spike with nado vs Sonic onstage but I'm not sure how, I think I hit with the top of Doc's fist on the second-to-last hit. Doc Nado's hitstun seems similar to Luigi Cyclone, but if he can't get that spike with a lower hitbox I don't think he can nado gimp the same way.

Luigi feels so good to use. Hating his recovery and slipperiness though, and without jumpless cyclone I don't feel like he can do much against low recoveries which bothers me. I'm regularly finding myself surprised at how much damage he does, I look at my opponent's percent wondering if they're in kill range yet and they're at like 170% even when it doesn't feel like I've done much. He slides so much on shield it feels even harder to punish hits on his shield than with Greninja, maybe I need to get in the habit of spotdodging.

Lucario's bthrow launches at a really low angle until mid-high percent. Bthrow>Aura Sphere when they hit the ground seems to work quite well, even if they tech. Lucario mirrors are some ****; you can be at 0% with your opponent at 170% and you're both about 3 hits away from death.

He gets an Up-B finisher that works out of d-throw and kills at like 80%.

He can't recover that well with it, but I think it only affects travel angle and not distance.

Yeah, it's angle; limits him to a vertical recovery.

Probably worth noting that the upB doesn't combo off of his throws or uair, he needs to get an airdodge read for it.

 

[Fernosaur]

Yeah, it's angle; limits him to a vertical recovery.

Probably worth noting that the upB doesn't combo off of his throws or uair, he needs to get an airdodge read for it.

Well it's either the barrel blast of the hoo hah, so it's not like you have a winning option against his dthrow :/

 

[Lavani]

Well it's either the barrel blast of the hoo hah, so it's not like you have a winning option against his dthrow :/

uair already beats airdodge, it's fast enough that if you airdodge the first one he can just do it again and hit you anyway. If you've got a window to input something it should either be a double jump away, or a quick aerial that can interrupt the string (Yoshi/Luigi nair, Luma uair, etc.), the former of which won't be trapped by upB and the latter idk. Point being, it makes the already-losing option even worse while the good options are still good.

 

[Fernosaur]

uair already beats airdodge, it's fast enough that if you airdodge the first one he can just do it again and hit you anyway. If you've got a window to input something it should either be a double jump away, or a quick aerial that can interrupt the string (Yoshi/Luigi nair, Luma uair, etc.), the former of which won't be trapped by upB and the latter idk. Point being, it makes the already-losing option even worse while the good options are still good.

Is air-dodging a throw EVER the good option? :'D

 

[Macchiato]

I dedicate this page to our girl T-sizzle

 

[Soul.]

So I played really good Falcon dittos on 3DS a while ago lol...
....on FG

 

[UkeNicky]

This song reminds me of the sisterhood of Zelda and all of you gorls my sisters
*tears up a lil*

 

[evmaxy54]

*tears up a lil*

Don't cry about him, don't cry about him

It's all gonna happen

 

[Seki_]

I just came back from a terrible place...the Diddy discussion threads. So how are you gorls doing? ;3

 

[PUK]

This song reminds me of the sisterhood of Zelda and all of you gorls my sisters
*tears up a lil*

You have to dance sista

 

[Lavani]

You have to dance sista

Caravan Palace is great

This song always makes me think of this thread and yew sassy sisters

 

[Furret]

I dedicate this page to our girl T-sizzle View attachment 43575

who?

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

who?

I see you went full furret

 

[Furret]

I see you went full furret

maximum overload overlord furret :D

god I like this pic too much

 

[Kofu]

maximum overload overlord furret :D
View attachment 43580
god I like this pic too much

Okay class, it's time for a lesson in base stats!

Let's look at Furret's base stats:
85, 76, 64, 45, 55, 90
As you can see, its Special Attack is very low. So even if it was shooting beams out of its eyes ("Hyper Beams" if you will) they wouldn't do that much damage to the Steel-type buildings. It would do better to use moves like Double-Edge, but even then its Attack is mediocre and buildings have better Defense than Special Defense. Furret is no threat to house or home.

 

[Lavani]

I remember how ecstatic I was when I found out Furret could learn Surf.

 

[Soul.]

You forgot to mention that Furret is best used as a TrickScarf user.
Normal-types learn almost every move from every type.

 

[Lavani]

yeah well my raticate and clefable and wigglytuff and chansey couldn't

but then Furret's all like "NAH BRO I GOT THIS"

 

[Soul.]

yeah... trickscarf furry was a thing back in Gen 4. Destroyed stall. U-turn for chip damage and scouting, I don't know what else did it have aside of Trick and U-turn.
by "destroyed stall" I mean using Trick on a Pokémon that has no offensive presence.

 

[Furret]

I remember how ecstatic I was when I found out Furret could learn Surf.

Okay class, it's time for a lesson in base stats!

Let's look at Furret's base stats:
85, 76, 64, 45, 55, 90
As you can see, its Special Attack is very low. So even if it was shooting beams out of its eyes ("Hyper Beams" if you will) they wouldn't do that much damage to the Steel-type buildings. It would do better to use moves like Double-Edge, but even then its Attack is mediocre and buildings have better Defense than Special Defense. Furret is no threat to house or home.

but this Furret is 100 times the size of a normal furret therefore, so clearly it's a hundred times stronger and 100 times slower then normal
8500, 7600, 4500, 6400, 5500, .9

You forgot to mention that Furret is best used as a TrickScarf user.
Normal-types learn almost every move from every type.

normal types confirmed mew

 

[Grass]

I'm gonna go solo mop

what is Mop?

 

[Jaguar360]

Since I'm behind 25 pages in this thread, I thought that I'd just skip them all and move on, but after seeing that @ Macchiato has Lucina as his only main, I know that I missed some major stuff.

So I'm gonna catch up now lol.

 

[BJN39]

what is Mop?

Check under "Mopcina" in the Zeldaganda thread for further information.

 

[「 Derk 」]

what is Mop?

This is mop. Mopcina is the savior of dirty floors and the avenger of tainted tiles.

Spoiler

 

[PUK]

Since I'm behind 25 pages in this thread, I thought that I'd just skip them all and move on, but after seeing that @ Macchiato has Lucina as his only main, I know that I missed some major stuff.

So I'm gonna catch up now lol.

Don't, wait 24h and machiatto will play Peach. Or Daraen. Or another sassy giiirl. But not zero sass Samus, she's not sassy.

 

[warionumbah2]

Since I'm behind 25 pages in this thread, I thought that I'd just skip them all and move on, but after seeing that @ Macchiato has Lucina as his only main, I know that I missed some major stuff.

So I'm gonna catch up now lol.

Basically Machitoto said he'll main Lowtiercina, but then he went to Game and Watch, not long after he went back to Lowtiercina and berserk1 was like "you were just a G&W main a minute ago" and linked Machitoto to a thread where some guy said that "maining loads of characters won't help you improve if anything it hinders your growth".

I was like "2015 and you still haven't got a main? lolol not a good show". Then some other dude came in like "mach bro i love ya but you need to stick with one character, no hard feelings bro. we cool?".

Then Machitoto was like "i'm now a lowtier mop that cleans the high tiers kitchen floor".

berserk1 hereby declared machitoto a Lowtercina main and i said "AMEN".

/The end

 

[Grass]

Basically Machitoto said he'll main Lowtiercina, but then he went to Game and Watch, not long after he went back to Lowtiercina and berserk1 was like "you were just a G&W main a minute ago" and linked Machitoto to a thread where some guy said that "maining loads of characters won't help you improve if anything it hinders your growth".

I was like "2015 and you still haven't got a main? lolol not a good show". Then some other dude came in like "mach bro i love ya but you need to stick with one character, no hard feelings bro. we cool?".

Then Machitoto was like "i'm now a lowtier mop that cleans the high tiers kitchen floor".

berserk1 hereby declared machitoto a Lowtercina main and i said "AMEN".

/The end

Cool story bro, tell it again. :D

 

[SBphiloz4]

Basically Machitoto said he'll main Lowtiercina, but then he went to Game and Watch, not long after he went back to Lowtiercina and berserk1 was like "you were just a G&W main a minute ago" and linked Machitoto to a thread where some guy said that "maining loads of characters won't help you improve if anything it hinders your growth".

I was like "2015 and you still haven't got a main? lolol not a good show". Then some other dude came in like "mach bro i love ya but you need to stick with one character, no hard feelings bro. we cool?".

Then Machitoto was like "i'm now a lowtier mop that cleans the high tiers kitchen floor".

berserk1 hereby declared machitoto a Lowtercina main and i said "AMEN".

/The end

EDIT: Can't double post soo.....

Someone in my region's Smash group is saying that you should always follow up Zero Skill Spamus' Dsmash into meteor Down B. Umm... no? I don't even play the character--

Oh wait, you just follow the flowchart, who am I kidding?

 

[Seki_]

I mained Mopcina at some point. I decided I'd rather be a chill gorl than the savior of moderately dirty flooring

 

[Fernosaur]

I care not for all of your factually erroneous fruit tier lists.


Mango is obviously SS tier.