Why is duckhunt and lylat being banned?

[horizons889]

Last local I went to they had both stages banned. It is supposed to be this way from now on.

So now smash 4 has LESS legal stages than melee. Wtf?

In my opinion it's a terrible change and I wish it never went through. I play diddy and both those stages (especially DH) were very good counter picks for him. Now he doesn't really have anything and smashville is often considered his worst stage.

This change will hurt several characters imo, including diddy.

 

[Frihetsanka]

You're preaching to the choir, the majority of Smashboards users seem to dislike this ruleset.

See this thread: https://smashboards.com/threads/the-proposed-ruleset-stage-discussion-vote-here.445308/

The official reason that Lylat is has some (rare) bugs and Duck Hunt sometimes leads to timeouts. Having just 3 starters is pretty bad, so I hope they change at least that part (keep Lylat).

 

[SJMistery]

The obvious response would be to NOT follow the new ruleset. I mean, we are one of the largest Smash communities, so if we do not follow those rules, it will help to disqualify them on the tournament scene. By the way, some of the stages such as Stadium are okay on competitive after the hazard removal trick, that takes about 10-30 seconds to do and is perfectly applicable on a tournament..

 

[Axel311]

Duck Hunt - because it promotes campy play, and a few characters can't get on top the tree without using their up Bs and going into freefall. I understand this one being cut off the stage list just because a few characters can't reach the tree if nothing else.

Lylat - Main reason seems to be the glitches. But from my experience they're extremely rare, too rarely affecting results to matter. Plus I find it hard to justify banning this stage on jank when we have people getting stretchered on SV/T&C, and getting pineappled on Dreamland. There's also the tilted lips of the stage causing SD's, but again seems hypocritical as a reason to ban IMO unless you're also going to ban Dreamland for pineappling.

 

[Crosstails20]

Because duck hunt gives certen characters advantages and others disadvantages.
And Lylat Cruse tilts

 

[horizons889]

Because duck hunt gives certen characters advantages and others disadvantages.
And Lylat Cruse tilts

Well yeah that's why it's a counter pick stage