Why didn't anyone say "Z" stood for "Short Hop"?

[Kabuto Mushi]

Seriously, in the past, I've had a hard time pulling these off. Maybe I'm just a noob, but... The X button works OK, but you really have to take your thumb off the A button to 'flick' the button and get the desired hop. The Y button works even better, but you still have to get your thumb at a wierd angle to pull it off...

But by far the best for me is the Z button. You can have fingers on that and the A button at the same time, making it much eaiser, for me at least, to pull off a short hop. Even with backward DI on it, it's simple now.

I seriously recomend using it. Which do you prefer?

 

[IKE_Angel]

X all the way man

 

[Crow!]

I use the right button on the wiimote for jump and down for attack, and I just keep my thumb halfway between the two so that I never have to take my thumb off of either button. Short hopped aerials are just one of the things that this makes easier.

 

[EternalCrusade]

X all the way man

I have to agree, I use X, its the most comfortable for me

 

[0m3n5150]

X as well for me.

 

[Unusual_Rex]

I also use X.

 

[Ulevo]

I used Y, which makes more sense to me than X. It's closer to the B button, and I can use jump and hit A at the same time for attacks. But that's just convenient coincidence, it just feels comfortable.

 

[0RLY]

I use X. Z is needed for other techs I use.

 

[Doval]

Y. I wouldn't change my control scheme over something so trivial (especially since the Z button does things that L or R+A can't easily replicate, such as grabbing items in mid-air without doing an air dodge, or charging C-sticked smashes.) People who have trouble short-hopping with X and Y should just practice more and try harder; it's not that hard to do, so enough practice will make perfect in this case.

 

[Unusual_Rex]

Short hops are way easier then they were in Melee.

 

[SFJake]

Technically, Y is better than X. Closer to the B. My finger is always touching Y and A. Slides slightly to touch B when needed.

Since they touch it, Z isn't better, but if thats what you need then go for it, still, I don't understand how can anyone have problem short hoping using Y.

 

[everlasting yayuhzz]

I can't do it with Y. I built my game around X in Melee . =/ I either use tap-up to short hop or X.

 

[Pyronic_Star]

i use the wii-mote/nunchuck now... but in melee, i used x

 

[Keitaro]

I use the X button. Who the hell uses Z!?!?

 

[Looper]

i tilt jumped in 64, x in melee, and classic controller x/y for brawl

 

[NoVaLombardia]

Y button here...

yknow, i hear all the heavy duty fox and falco players use X, just so they do that sliding controller motion for the waveshine (melee of course). I don't know why but i have a much easier time to waveshine with Y than X, but i can't land it everytime.

Maybe X is better for that? Or i just need more tech skill.

 

[MASTER719]

I've always used Y
Classic controller FTW

 

[Doval]

Y button here...

yknow, i hear all the heavy duty fox and falco players use X, just so they do that sliding controller motion for the waveshine (melee of course). I don't know why but i have a much easier time to waveshine with Y than X, but i can't land it everytime.

Maybe X is better for that? Or i just need more tech skill.

Actually, I was what you might consider a heavy-duty Fox player in Melee, and I wavedashed and waveshined almost exclusively with Y. I was pretty consistent (though I did mess up backwards waveshines sometimes, but that doesn't have much to do with the short-hop itself.) I find it a lot more comfortable, so I don't think it's just you.

 

[rmporter35]

I am using X at the moment, but I might try Y...

 

[supercake]

Ive recently changed to L for shorthop. It takes some getting use to but theirs no real tactical disadvantage to it. You still use R for shield. Ive found that my right thumb is a LOT less tired when it just has to worry about specials and not specials AND the jump.

 

[Bud]

my friend uses L trigger, try it out, the spring makes short hopping the easiest and you dont have to hold the controller claw style. For me x is the only way, but I suggest L if your having trouble, z is just too good of a grab.

 

[Pi]

I don't wanna change my control scheme, I don't like change. X for me.

 

[fkacyan]

I use Y for jumping and X for grabbing, but I suppose I could reverse that combo if I cared to.

Z for jumping though...?

 

[Eternal Neo]

I use Y just like in melee. I actually realized i never use X for jumping so I switched it to grab and can now not only grab faster than before but it also makes it easier to short hop-air dodge too. I use Z to shield as it's much faster and more precise than using the analog shoulder buttons. It really all does come down to personal preference though.

 

[Finch]

I have and always will use Y

 

[SagaKirby]

I love using Y and X.
I never got used to Up.

 

[Jiggernaut]

A=Jump
B=Attack
Y=Special
X=Jump
ZR=Grab
R=Shield
ZL=Special
L=Attack

Mind you i'm using the classic controller =/

 

[iamthelifeonmars]

x the majority of the time. i use y on occasion just because it makes it more comfortable for me to zair or c-stick a uair

 

[Crizthakidd]

you just press X very quickly and lightly. not too hard....

 

[zxcZ]

X is the best for the GC controller all you do is slide over, cant get anymore easier.

 

[dobee]

I use the a button for jump....

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

I use up on the control stick

*backs away slowly*

 

[Sans Glutin]

I've always used Y.

 

[Magical Samurai]

I use Y to short hop, and jump, and I sometimes set Z to jump when I want to Zap Jump with lucas, just for the fun of it.
X is my new grab button, works much better in the general situation for me.

-Magical Samurai

 

[Pierce7d]

Uh, I changed X to shield, since analog shielding is out, X is slightly quicker. Y has and always will be jump, I do not have trouble short-hopping. Z has other critical uses.

 

[Dizzynecro]

I use Y and L for jump; and X and z for grab.

 

[DethSmasher]

i use up for normal jumping but when i short hop i do y then a, i also have x set to grab for stationarty grabs and for IC chainthrows

 

[rubiksfriend]

X and A are the only way to play.

 

[KiteDXX]

I've been using the Y button due to my intial impressions on 64. I used the top C button in order to jump, and it's become a habit since those days for me to use the highest button on the face of the controller to jump (Y on GC controller, X on CC controller, etc.). I guess it's acquired preference.

 

[ToP CaT]

I use up on the control stick

*backs away slowly*

liarrr! noone uses up on the control stick