Who Recovers The Highest in Smash 4?

[Conda]

On reddit and youtube, a lot of people were dissatisfied with the video because it doesn't use certain characters' recoveries properly or to their fullest, ie Pac Man, Shulk, and some others. The user just used Up B pretty much. A better version of this video could surely be made.

 

[Luigi player]

What about...

- Lucario with more / max aura
- Luigi with his downB
- Wario with his bike

Nice video, but it doesn't even use all the characters' available options.

 

[Darklink401]

Not buying it. The list is bull****, calling it now. Too many things not accounted for.

It's not BS, but it DOES leave out some factors. It's very likely to be true though, as far as the raw data is concerned, since for other factors we'd just need to either adjust a few recoveries or add some (like max power lucario)

 

[Aguki90]

Is real!

In order:

4.Olimar
3.R.O.B.
2. Lucario
1. Villager

Those four has the best recovery in the game.

 

[Brickbuild101]

...I love you, .


Also, mashing the B button during 's Super Hoop will make it go faster and higher. Pretty sure they didn't do that in the video.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

Excellent use of Villager

 

[StarshipGroove]

Rather pointless video, since it counts ground jumps which aren't usable as off-stage recovery.

 

[zephyrnereus]

as a ROB main I wanna see how far he goes is he optimizes the fuel instead of downright letting it all go at once. I'm pretty sure he'd go higher and probably closer to villager.

 

[NoteBlock]

I found the fact that the villager's recovery was the best hilarious, especially when you consider that he(or she) has never jumped once in the entire franchise! XD

 

[Michael Ma]

Luigi should be higher because it didn't use its down-b

 

[ReRaze]

I think Olimar with different amounts of Pikmin would be irrelevant, as that's his top. But Jump Shulk and high-aura Lucario might be important. Pretty sure Villager still beats them all though.

dude have you actually seen how far lucario goes at high damage its sooooo unecessary, you can fly from like the stage to the top blast zone

 

[Darklink401]

dude have you actually seen how far lucario goes at high damage its sooooo unecessary, you can fly from like the stage to the top blast zone

With Villager as well XP

But I admit, it IS huge.

 

[Niala]

If you can only clear 11 of those platforms with WFT you're clearly not mashing B hard enough.

 

[ThePhoenixDown]

What Falco can recover better than fox!!!??

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

What Falco can recover better than fox!!!??

Well, he IS a bird....

 

[ThePhoenixDown]

Well, he IS a bird....

*flightless bird

 

[Darklink401]

*flightless bird

He can jump crazy high tho

 

[ThePhoenixDown]

doesnt do u any good when u get shined

 

[Darklink401]

doesnt do u any good when u get shined

But it does him good in a video about recovery height.

 

[ThePhoenixDown]

But it does him good in a video about recovery height.

ooo i get u, i forgot jumps counted in this video haha

 

[GangsterPuff]

Everything until now was a lie...

 

[Chris Sifniotis]

Eh, I can take it or leave it really. There is useful info here, but it's not done properly and only takes the default up specials into account.

 

[Demonstormkill]

Leaving aside all of the relevant other moves, you could have at least done the up-B's to maximum height. Pika and Greninja were done with a single up input instead of one up and one diagonal.

Looking at it in training mode, a lucario at max aura has more vertical distance on up-B than villager, not to mention he jumps higher.

 

[KMAL]

Freakin Villager

 

[Toxicroaker]

The bike isn't relevant to vertical recoveries as far as I'm aware, but THE WAFT IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE

If you jump off the bike (I'm pretty sure it uses the attack button.) you jump about as high as a fully charged waft. It factors heavily into vertical recovery. Just set the cpu to lvl 9 and watch them recover.

 

[Antonykun]

You know who probably beats Villager?


Jump Art Kirby. Bet you forgot he can use Arts.

 

[LOGIA666]

Damn you, Killager.....

But my main has tied for second best recovery, so suck on that.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I think we can all agree this video left out some important factors out when testing out the characters but still good for basic general information regarding recovery height. I am willing to bet all of my lunch money that we will be seeing videos and long-winded essays on recovery height w/ additional factors in the months to come.

Also, I think we can all agree that the Villager has one of the most OP recovery move when it comes to recovery distance.

 

[Logsmash]

So much salt about this video, even if it is inaccurate in some instances it's at least laying the groundwork for further research to be conducted. Maybe instead of complaining about how everything is wrong, haters should go out and make their own videos where it's done properly for every character.

 

[Luigi Smasher]

villager recovery 2op4me pls nerf

 

[FalconOwnage]

Luigi should be higher because it didn't use its down-b

it??

 

[Yonder]

They seriously didn't account for enough factors. They forgot Luigi nado too. I'd give it a C.

 

[MarioMeteor]

It's not BS, but it DOES leave out some factors. It's very likely to be true though, as far as the raw data is concerned, since for other factors we'd just need to either adjust a few recoveries or add some (like max power lucario)

Yes it is, yes it does, and no it isn't, in that order. For one, you don't recover on stage so he done already ****ed up by adding double jumps. He didn't include a lot of important **** like the Cyclone, Tornado, Jump, Lucario in Team Rocket mode, Bomb jumping, bike jumping, Wafting, Bowser's mashing Fortress, and more I don't feel like naming. Then he used moving platforms which screwed with some of the recoveries, so bam, 3 **** ups. What he shoulda did was make a stage with normal size blocks stacked onto each other, cause if iirc, each block is 1 meter or some **** like that, and that'd be a better calculation than how far they can go on stage with moving platforms (which by the way, you never have to deal with while recovering). Good idea, but ideas only get you so far.
And note, that's not even bringing customs into it.

Yes it is, yes it does, and no it isn't, in that order. For one, you don't recover on stage so he done already ****ed up by adding double jumps. He didn't include a lot of important **** like the Cyclone, Tornado, Jump, Lucario in Team Rocket mode, Bomb jumping, bike jumping, Wafting, Bowser's mashing Fortress, and more I don't feel like naming. Then he used moving platforms which screwed with some of the recoveries, so bam, 3 **** ups. What he shoulda did was make a stage with normal size blocks stacked onto each other, cause if iirc, each block is 1 meter or some **** like that, and that'd be a better calculation than how far they can go on stage with moving platforms (which by the way, you never have to deal with while recovering). Good idea, but ideas only get you so far.
And note, that's not even bringing customs into it.

Edit: Jump Kirby, Rising Pound, whatever that power pellet **** Pac-Man does is, Cape, Toad, did they use Egg Toss? Don't remember. Last hit of Air Slash, if he was gonna do moving platforms, he shoulda took into account that Mega bounces higher on Rush the second time, you can mash Super Hoop I think, and more I don't wanna think about right now.

 

[Darklink401]

Yes it is, yes it does, and no it isn't, in that order. For one, you don't recover on stage so he done already ****ed up by adding double jumps. He didn't include a lot of important **** like the Cyclone, Tornado, Jump, Lucario in Team Rocket mode, Bomb jumping, bike jumping, Wafting, Bowser's mashing Fortress, and more I don't feel like naming. Then he used moving platforms which screwed with some of the recoveries, so bam, 3 **** ups. What he shoulda did was make a stage with normal size blocks stacked onto each other, cause if iirc, each block is 1 meter or some **** like that, and that'd be a better calculation than how far they can go on stage with moving platforms (which by the way, you never have to deal with while recovering). Good idea, but ideas only get you so far.
And note, that's not even bringing customs into it.

I mean, do YOU wanna make a video detailing everything, or....?


I think this dude deserves more praise, considering he laid the foundation for stuff we can work more on to develop fully into something more usable.

You're acting as if he commited some serious offense....

 

[FerrishTheFish]

How the hell else do you think an entire town got built without scaffolding?

 

[Myougi]

Do you think...

This is some kind of game?

 

[MarioMeteor]

I mean, do YOU wanna make a video detailing everything, or....?


I think this dude deserves more praise, considering he laid the foundation for stuff we can work more on to develop fully into something more usable.

You're acting as if he commited some serious offense....

Sure. You wanna get me the equipment? Do you wanna make a video detailing why he's right, or...? Cause trust me, it's gonna be hard. With all due respect to whoever made this, come on, he really didn't find anything that we weren't capable of finding ourselves. YOU act like he discovered some game changing, groundbreaking tech. It's good he put forth the effort and a lot of people appreciate it, but that doesn't mean it's right. Paula Dean can give me a plate of food, but if it's not good, it's not good, I don't care if I can make it or not. She made it and it wasn't good, that's what matters. You can put all the work in the world into something, but if the results not good, then it wasn't much in the end, was it?

 

[AirShad]

You forgot to use luigis tornado

 

[Tino]

No surprise there. I always knew the Villager has the best recovery in the game.

 

[Darklink401]

Sure. You wanna get me the equipment? Do you wanna make a video detailing why he's right, or...? Cause trust me, it's gonna be hard. With all due respect to whoever made this, come on, he really didn't find anything that we weren't capable of finding ourselves. YOU act like he discovered some game changing, groundbreaking tech. It's good he put forth the effort and a lot of people appreciate it, but that doesn't mean it's right. Paula Dean can give me a plate of food, but if it's not good, it's not good, I don't care if I can make it or not. She made it and it wasn't good, that's what matters. You can put all the work in the world into something, but if the results not good, then it wasn't much in the end, was it?

Everything here is accurate, at a base level, except maybe Link's missing 1 floor.

Sure, a lot of characters here could recover higher than that, but nothing he's done is inherently wrong. In fact, this could all be taken as just a fun video he made to see which character can jump the highest from onstage, with just double jump and upB.

Why not? There's no reason to make a video to state whether he is right or not, because what he did is just kinda entertainin.

I also have no reason why you are upset as if this video insults your ancestors x-x

I sure found it cute, albeit at a base level. Youtube is a place of free expression, so why SHOULDN'T he make something like that? No one else has, and while it could have been more accurate, now we know (Wii Fit Trainer aside) the raw jump + jump + upB potential of characters. Might help, who knows~

But getting upset at it won't solve anythin, it's just a fun video~ ^.^


Oh and as a closing statement; sure, we could all find this out ourselves. But the same applies for using the other characters' different recovery options to make them go higher. The fact is he took time out of his life to make a map specifically for this, and then proceeded to record every character, compiling them into a neat video for us.

I REALLY don't understand what's so insulting here.