Who else misses killing your opponets with throws???

[KKIINNGG]

In smash 64 you could do a throw and ko anyone...

 

[Peek~]

In smash 64 you could point out the obvious and ko anyone...

 

[Steck]

One of the main reasons I mostly played as (I'm not going to say "main" because I switched characters alot) Ness was because of the throws. His throws were awesome. I also liked floating around with his jump too.

 

[calmlunatic]

I loved Kirby's forward throw. Slam into the ground so hard it explodes.

 

[4 Aces]

Yeah, I had forgotten about that. Loved it. Ah, I remember when I developed shieldgrabbing on my own...then I did it to my sister and it was fun. Twas a shame I didn't use it more often back in the day; I liked dodging better. SSB64...lots of fond memories.

Edit: I prefer the combo-oriented throws in Melee over SSB64's though. If memory serves, dash grab animations didn't even exist in SSB64. Just pointing something out.

 

[Wenbobular]

Yeah, I had forgotten about that. Loved it. Ah, I remember when I developed shieldgrabbing on my own...then I did it to my sister and it was fun. Twas a shame I didn't use it more often back in the day; I liked dodging better. SSB64...lots of fond memories.

Attempting to shieldgrab aerials usually gets you grabbed ¬.¬
And uhh...throws still kill in SSBM...if you're Mewtwo.
...I've killed someone with Lucas's throw in Brawl.

 

[Surri-Sama]

Attempting to shieldgrab aerials usually gets you grabbed ¬.¬
And uhh...throws still kill in SSBM...if you're Mewtwo.
...I've killed someone with Lucas's throw in Brawl.

I have STARTED a kill in Melee and Brawl with a Throw, that seems better to me then just killign with one

 

[4 Aces]

Attempting to shieldgrab aerials usually gets you grabbed ¬.¬
And uhh...throws still kill in SSBM...if you're Mewtwo.
...I've killed someone with Lucas's throw in Brawl.

(The text that comes after this takes place and is about Melee) If I hit a shield, I usually get grabbed 50% of the time. I'm not really sure why.
I don't know what it's like getting punished for attempting to shieldgrab aerials. My main method of shieldgrabbing is when my sister dash attacks, which she does more often than I what I would recommend. She doesn't use AT's though, so her options are limited. She hardly ever comes from the air, and when she does, I usually don't cuz I keep thinking she's too far away.

Care to enlighten me? Not about my matches against my sister, but as to why shieldgrabbing aerials is punished.

 

[Wenbobular]

(The text that comes after this takes place and is about Melee) If I hit a shield, I usually get grabbed 50% of the time. I'm not really sure why.
I don't know what it's like getting punished for attempting to shieldgrab aerials. My main method of shieldgrabbing is when my sister dash attacks, which she does more often than I what I would recommend. She doesn't use AT's though, so her options are limited. She hardly ever comes from the air, and when she does, I usually don't cuz I keep thinking she's too far away.

Care to enlighten me? Not about my matches against my sister, but as to why shieldgrabbing aerials is punished.

Your sister doesn't know how to Z-cancel then.
In SSB, aerials cancel instantly, leading to an instant grab if you're against a shielding opponent. Especially if you're aerialing with like...CFalcon or Ness. Crazy shieldstun. Everyone knows about Ness's shieldbreakers, but you could just throw them too.

 

[4 Aces]

Oh, right. I forgot that in SSB64 cancels are instant. How do people avoid this then? Roll instead?

 

[hambread]

oh uh. try not to roll from an aerial. with z canceling it is too easy to cancel-dash-grab you.

btw in brawl z canceling just speeds up the lag animation and not cancel it completely (64 style) right?

 

[Surri-Sama]

Oh, right. I forgot that in SSB64 cancels are instant. How do people avoid this then? Roll instead?

i have to steal Malva's advice, if you dont want to be stuck in hit stun, and you know you cant roll the answer is

Dont get it!

 

[4 Aces]

btw in brawl z canceling just speeds up the lag animation and not cancel it completely (64 style) right?

I don't think Z/L cancel is in Brawl.

i have to steal Malva's advice, if you dont want to be stuck in hit stun, and you know you cant roll the answer is

Dont get hit!

^Fixed it there for ya. (it --> hit) Darn, I had forgotten that phrase.

 

[Surri-Sama]

I don't think Z/L cancel is in Brawl.



^Fixed it there for ya. (it --> hit) Darn, I had forgotten that phrase.

LOL thanks i guess >_<

but yeah, if only it was as easy to follow that advice as it is to say it =.=

 

[greenblob]

Eh... I never really use throws for KOs too often. Most of the time it's fthrow with Falcon or Jiggs into a combo.

 

[Surri-Sama]

Eh... I never really use throws for KOs too often. Most of the time it's fthrow with Falcon or Jiggs into a combo.

You dont use Pika, ness or DK do you

Those chars have major back throws which are used VASTLY in gameplay for them :|

 

[jimmyjoe]

jigg's back throw sodomizes w/ its nasty angle

 

[PikashoX]

*throws link off edge* ... gg

 

[Polostick]

every character has good throws cept

link, samus, and yoshi had ranged throws and lags badly if misses

falcon jiggs and kirby's forward throw doesn't kill but set up for combos

and dk can walk with characters with his forward throws

and for some reason kirby's back throw doesn't get too great distance

 

[whaahppnd]

kirby's forward throw doesn't kill

"This guy doesn't know what he's talking about"

 

[PikashoX]

kirbys throw never kills, sorta of like pikachu's throw.

durh o_O

 

[Surri-Sama]

kirbys throw never kills, sorta of like pikachu's throw.

durh o_O

the second part has to be sarcasim, but the first part might just be ignorance.

This is all i ment by what i said, this video says it all :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txa8w86H1gU

 

[Rupus]

Kirby's Fthrow lifts you up in the air, and on levels like Hyrule, you can land on the highest platform, making it relatively easy to kill people at low-ish percents. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen.

Pikachu's Bthrow is very good, and his Fthrow is useful in a few circumstances.