Where are all the Shulks on For Glory?

[Ultimastrike]

In all the time I've been on there since release, I have NEVER seen Shulk show up in a single match in 1v1 For Glory.

80% - Little Mac
20% - Rest of the cast except Shulk

I really want some Shulk Time in For Glory at least once instead of the Mac Bandwagon.

 

[Claxus]

Only Shulk I've ever seen was this guy who was just cycling through characters every match. It's a bit baffling, honestly. At first, I would think Shulk is 'that really awesome dude with a crazy beam sword' that even people who don't know him would be using a lot. Yet I've never truly come across one.

My friend who planned on maining Shulk since his reveal dropped him very early on, saying he felt very stiff and awkward, and didn't like managing the arts. I think a lot of people are turned down by how he plays? His attacks are quite slow and unorthodox, and on top of that, he has Arts management. All his other B specials are very situational attacks...

I guess it's either the above, that he's a very complex character, or... People just don't find him appealing? Maybe they don't like his accent.

 

[KenMeister]

I play Shulk as a secondary, and while I'm not great, I'm decent at best. I did run into one out of the 500 or matches I played, but I ended up 2-stocking him without much effort. So yeah, I guess not enough people on FG are "feeling it".

 

[MarioFireRed]

It's probably Shulk being a complex character trying to manage his arts and all. Instead you get Mac after Mac.

 

[Masonomace]

Because Shulk isn't easy-to-play & his learning curve is super duper high, so basic attack patterns aren't very effective when playing Shulk. I admit I was turned off at first, but that was natural when he didn't play the way I "thought" he'd play like. Adjustment was done but yeah, not a lot of people are feeling it.

 

[Daryl]

Agree with everyone.. I'm too maining Shulk and haven't really face any Shulk user.

Shulk has high learning curve, managing art is quite difficult at beginning. This things may turn down some people..
Also I think Shulk has a slow recovery from side b or up b give a lot of room to punish.

 

[Ultimastrike]

Shulk doesn't really have slow recover with Up B, considering it's his recovery. His Side B on the other hand you may want to just hand out on occasion. But really, I'm kinda disappointed that FG isn't "feeling it" at all. #NeedsMoarShulkTime

 

[MHFsilver]

Every Shulk I find just jumps around and counters. I would also like to find at least a decent opponent in For Glory that isn't a Little Mac.

 

[Berserker.]

They thought back slashing was the plan with Shulk

Then it didn't work

Then they stopped using him

 

[Masonomace]

If people thought Back Slash was the go-to plan, then we're all back-stabbing shameful swordsmen.
Owell I'll be feeling it regardless.

 

[KenMeister]

Because people can't comprehend the almighty Nair, that's why.

 

[DaDavid]

I've faced a total of 3 other Shulks in For Glory, and one of them was those cases of "haha I'm beating you with my main so lemme take you on with your character."

It didn't work out for him.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I haven't seen another Shulk since like release day and it's a little sad since dittos can help you get better at matchups, you know. Guess other Shulk users back slashed to their death and never came back :^)

 

[DaDavid]

I'm sure that when/if a notable enough player picks up a Shulk and shows something even moderately impressive people will jump all over him.

But for now, I'm enjoying the slight feeling of superiority that comes from knowing that my For Glory opponents literally have probably never faced someone like me.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

I fought one...We then had like 10 Shulk dittos.He won while I was Link then I won(barely),Then we were both Shulk and he won like 5+ times,but I was getting better(I was feeling it!),I won 3 times then suicided as I had to go.TLDR:Shulk dittos are the funniest match in the game!

 

[Sui]

I've faced a total of 3 other Shulks in For Glory, and one of them was those cases of "haha I'm beating you with my main so lemme take you on with your character."

It didn't work out for him.

These are basically the only times I face Shulk in For Glory too, unfortunately. I've got some 800 matches or so, and I have faced a FEW more Shulks than those people that use Shulk just because you're using Shulk, but they're VERY few and far between. The only character I think I've seen less of online in For Glory is Wii Fit Trainer (literally, I think I've seen ONE in those 800 matches).

I think Shulk players in For Glory definitely have a reputation for being easy to beat though (probably because of the learning curve and being easily punishable when you don't know how to use him). I have yet to lose to another Shulk in For Glory, and most (most, not all) of the other Shulks I face pretty clearly don't know how to use him effectively. It's unfortunate. =/

 

[CWBY]

i think the only times i ever saw anyone use shulk online were one guy who played him first match, then another who switched to shulk after i'd whooped up on him with the same. it's a pity, too; shulk dittos are really fun.

i actually don't see that many people playing little mac online, at least not on for glory. that's a matchup i'd like to learn better.

 

[Omniomega]

I have faced 2 other Shulks, beat them both, and both had different play styles.

The first being the style of no idea what the hell he was doing.

The second was the buster and rush down style.

Other than that it's been nothing but Marth, Sheik, and Greninja.

 

[Solfiner]

I have faced 20-30 of them. Most of them spam backslash and up-throw to up tilt (Not a real combo.) Also, shield at 0%. Big plays.

 

[Dilligaf]

Finally found another Shulk after about 100 games. Played 3 ditto matches (I won all of them), and switched to Fox. I don't think he mained him because he overused his counter and rarely used his arts, going only for Smash on occasion, but still good games.

 

[Berserker.]

Also, shield at 0%. Big plays.

Um.... I think one of the Shulks here actually do that and win a lot.

 

[Solfiner]

Um.... I think one of the Shulks here actually do that and win a lot.

Oh wow, I am curious now. He becomes combo fodder with it activated basically, so what does said player do to counter that?

 

[Berserker.]

Oh wow, I am curious now. He becomes combo fodder with it activated basically, so what does said player do to counter that?

Well, I don't know. He only uses Shulk specifically against Little Mac as far as I know

@ KuroganeHammer

Well, I don't wanna bother him though so I don't know why I tagged him >_>. My bad

 

[KuroganeHammer]

You don't become combo fodder any more than you are normally. It ****s up people's strings because you don't really go anywhere, although I suppose when people learn that they can adapt.

You'd take less hitstun though, I wonder if that affects comboability as well.

I really don't feel like Shield at 0% is that disadvantaged to you.

 

[Masonomace]

Combo fodder maybe, but not really because we can escape out of them with panic Vision or buffering a doublejump+AirDodge. Or you could laugh at the attempt of being juggled & only taking ~20% in total because Shield reduces damage taken like a B0SS.

 

[Berserker.]

Combo fodder maybe, but not really because we can escape out of them with panic Vision or buffering a doublejump+AirDodge. Or you could laugh at the attempt of being juggled & only taking ~20% in total because Shield reduces damage taken like a B0SS.

Vision can sometimes be unreliable. Don't get me wrong. I use this also but I've also missed the vision attack a couple of times.

I'd rather soak up the damage.

 

[Masonomace]

Vision can sometimes be unreliable. Don't get me wrong. I use this also but I've also missed the vision attack a couple of times.

I'd rather soak up the damage.

Yes. . . .take a dip in that bath of damage. . Maybe then all the Shulks would occur more often in FG

 

[Berserker.]

Nah. Back Slash and buster MK seems to be a thing with them

 

[Burgundy]

I've been too busy playing Smash Run to play For Glory. ;-; I just need that one last Achievement in the top-right corner of the third panel, and my life will be complete. I'm like nearly there on trophies and I'm working on custom moves atm.

I've already memorized the Smash Run map and all the enemies game just work with me pleez. I've forgotten how to fight real people.

 

[Berserker.]

I've been too busy playing Smash Run to play For Glory. ;-; I just need that one last Achievement in the top-right corner of the third panel, and my life will be complete. I'm like nearly there on trophies and I'm working on custom moves atm.

I've already memorized the Smash Run map and all the enemies game just work with me pleez. I've forgotten how to fight real people.

You didn't miss out on much

They still love rolling

 

[SmashBro99]

My friend who planned on maining Shulk since his reveal dropped him very early on, saying he felt very stiff and awkward, and didn't like managing the arts. I think a lot of people are turned down by how he plays? His attacks are quite slow and unorthodox, and on top of that, he has Arts management. All his other B specials are very situational attacks...

This, he was my most anticipated newcomer and the first character I used ofc...but as I've said in other threads, he feels like a weaker, slower Ike. I understand his monado arts and all but when I play for Glory I'd rather use Mario, Pac Man or Donkey Kong over clunky Shulk, maybe when I can play on a gamecube controller I'll give him another shot. I still play him now just not as much as I thought I would.

 

[CommanderVimes]

I've probably used Shulk in For Glory more than anyone else, in my top 3 mains atm. I've played about 250 FGs, and maybe 1-2 have been against a fellow Shulk. I think there are a few characters I have seen less though, or not at all. I do not recall ever fighting DK, Charizard, Olimar, or G&W.

As for who I see the most, probably Ganondorf, Little Mac, and Falcon.

 

[adom4]

I don't think i've seen one decent Shulk in for glory (Not that i see much Shulks in the first place), barely any use the monado arts, most of them spam back slash/vision & in general are awful.

 

[KenMeister]

So I guess it's a safe bet that the only way you're going to play a decent Shulk is by exchanging Friend Codes, sadly. Also, why do people spam Back Slash, anyway? Do they expect us to roll into it....Oh wait. Yeah they do, nevermind.

 

[Sui]

...but as I've said in other threads, he feels like a weaker, slower Ike

More like a more versatile, able to adapt to any situation, version of Ike. If he feels slower than Ike and weaker than Ike, you're not using your Monado arts properly.

 

[sWiTcHeRoO [疾~斬]]

I'm a Shulk main, I've been playing him in For Glory for 3 days straight. If you've seen a "sWiTcHeRoO" before, that's me.

I neglected him a bit at first because of some flaws of his that worried me, but I'm feeling more in control now.
Helps a lot that I learned not to rely on Monado Arts entirely. I get my ass kicked less now.

Also, people wanting to play Shulk can't go in with the mentality of a Marth/Ike player, he's not like them at all and it honestly annoys me that some people shut Shulk down as an option because of this. He's completely different from every swordsman yet, and not just because of Monado Arts.

 

[SmashBro99]

More like a more versatile, able to adapt to any situation, version of Ike. If he feels slower than Ike and weaker than Ike, you're not using your Monado arts properly.

As if they are all that complex,

I wish I was wrong but I don't see that I am yet.

I need to use him more, on FG all the few Shulks I've faced just spam Back Slash and fsmash

 

[sWiTcHeRoO [疾~斬]]

As if they are all that complex,

I wish I was wrong but I don't see that I am yet.

I need to use him more, on FG all the few Shulks I've faced just spam Back Slash and fsmash

It's not about complexity, but rather all the options available to you because of how drastic their buffs (and drawbacks) are. Not only do they force you to change your playstyle on the spot, but your opponent's too, which is both a blessing and a curse depending on how good both players are at handling the Monado Arts on themselves and if fighting a Shulk using them.

I wouldn't take terrible For Glory players into consideration when it comes to a character's potential BTW. That shouldn't even need to be said.

 

[SmashBro99]

I said I need to use him more, obviously scrubs who spam those attacks and don't even use his arts don't affect how I see him lol.

He has loads of potential, I guess I'm not fond of his moveset and hitboxes.

 

[Berserker.]

I wish I was wrong but I don't see that I am yet.

Monado arts say hi and yes, even until now, they're still complex. We haven't even tapped all of the art's potential

But anyway......

He's a faster runner and walker than Ike. His attacks are faster than Ike's by a margin overall. Additionally, one of our aerials has a landing lag of 12 frames while Ike's least laggy aerial has 16 (N-air). The damage is understandable because Shulk has longer range and quicker speed than Ike in general. Giving him more power would give less incentive to use Ike over Shulk

Overall, he's a faster, longer ranged, weaker Ike if anything which automatically changes when switching to whatever art. I've already tried out Ike btw. Actually, it isn't gutsy to say that Shulk being a slower, weaker Ike is factually wrong. Well, almost factually

Hope you have a jolly good time though