Wavedashing Looks like Poop

[NFST4R]

I hate to say it, and I don't exactly know if it is possible, but maybe the PMBR should make the wavedash landing animation look like less dirt is being kicked. Melee made it look very smooth and you could really get satisfaction from it, while in PM it kinda feels like it is a bad representation of it. Idk any thoughts?

 

[Xermo]

You're nitpicking.

 

[NFST4R]

You're nitpicking.

True, do you feel the same way or is it just me? If they are trying to keep it consistent with melee shouldn't it feel like melee?

 

[kaizo13]

maybe not a priority now, but perhaps when the game is getting closer to a final release and they have more time to focus on aesthetic enhancements.

i don't see why not. The clouds are currently bigger than Melee's and they're dirty. Can we have clean white clouds please?

 

[NFST4R]

Boom that is exactly what I was getting at. Also they claim to have more space for MORE characters. They even hinted at maybe CREATING a Waluigi. Can you imagine him wave dashing lol

 

[standardtoaster]

That waluigi Chibo is streaming is just a KC-MM PSA and nothing more.

 

[NFST4R]

That waluigi Chibo is streaming is just a KC-MM PSA and nothing more.

I saw that, but Strong Bad said they would CREATE one from scratch possibly

 

[Exodo]

no waluigi please T.T

 

[Shadic]

I saw that, but Strong Bad said they would CREATE one from scratch possibly

You realize you were replying to another Project M Developer, right?

And all SB was saying was that if we were to make another character, we wouldn't use existing animations from other PSAs.

Back on "topic," though, please.

 

[NFST4R]

You realize you were replying to another Project M Developer, right?

And all SB was saying was that if we were to make another character, we wouldn't use existing animations from other PSAs.

Back on "topic," though, please.

OMG dude I didn't even see that! Thats so awesome dude I meant no disrespect and seriously btw thanks for helping make such a great mod dude. And also thanks to standard toaster.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Can we has sparkles

 

[McSlur]

Can we has sparkles

Or maybe rainbows.
With a little ding sound when you hit the ground.

 

[kaizo13]

VS

Melee clouds give a much cleaner visual. Better suited for a fast paced game like PM.

 

[Bleck]

replace all dust clouds with coins

 

[PandaPanda Senketsu]

They should just remove Wavedashing entirely, its nothing but an unfair glitch that competitive players abuse in order to win matches. It takes no skill to use and it is extremely broken and op. If you ask me, this game would be a lot better if they just deleted wavecheating altogether.

 

[Raijinken]

VS

Melee clouds give a much cleaner visual. Better suited for a fast paced game like PM.

I think that pretty clearly makes it a matter of opinion. I, at least, think Brawl's is less of an eyesore, but I think that about 90% of Brawl vs corresponding things in Melee anyway.

Now, if they want to give it an entirely new animation for every character, that would be excessive but cool.

 

[Ganondalf]

They should just remove Wavedashing entirely, its nothing but an unfair glitch that competitive players abuse in order to win matches. It takes no skill to use and it is extremely broken and op. If you ask me, this game would be a lot better if they just deleted wavecheating altogether.

If it takes no skill to use then doesnt that mean everybody can do it?

 

[Rᴏb]

VS

Melee clouds give a much cleaner visual. Better suited for a fast paced game like PM.

After seeing that picture, I'm convinced.

 

[Thor]

They should just remove Wavedashing entirely, its nothing but an unfair glitch that competitive players abuse in order to win matches. It takes no skill to use and it is extremely broken and op. If you ask me, this game would be a lot better if they just deleted wavecheating altogether.

This is the wrong thread to say that kind of thing. But I'll say a few things:

1) Not a glitch, just not foreseen how it would be used. It's a corner case of physics - Sakurai noticed this happened, but didn't realize it had applications for pretty much every character.

2) It takes skill to use - I can't do it except for wavelanding onstage and very very sporadic wavedashes mid-match (and that's why I'm a janky-as-all-get-out Falco, but I can L-cancel enough and try to trick opponents to sometimes take sets off players who are more technically skilled than I).

3) Go play Brawl, Brawl-, Balanced Brawl, or another mod - they don't have wavedashing (Brawl- Fox can, but it's one character), and from my experience they are all still great games to play. If you don't like PM, just don't play it, but also don't go spreading objectionable opinions or Melee/PM hate here. The Brawl boards don't like stuff like this [who by and large deal with the bulk of the X Smash game hate] and I would assume the PM boards don't want it either.

4) They'd need to redesign several characters for this - for example, Luigi would go from being ok to being one of the worst characters, with terrible air speed, bad dash speed, and no way to punish out of shield because he slides too far.

5) They'd also have to redesign airdodging entirely - no directional boost, or once per airtime, or like Brawl, or like Smash 4 (Extra landlag) - it's not exactly a simple task.

I'd ask other people not to respond to this and/or flame him, since that will just make the thread spiral in a way that's unproductive.

 

[Nazo]

I find it hilarious that they don't realize Panda is joking.

 

[shairn]

I prefer melee clouds because I can dashdance/wavedash to make lots of clouds and blind my opponent

 

[Diabolical]

I don't know for about the clouds, but the couching animation specifically for Fox and Falco is so much cooler than PM one. Wavedashing doesn't look as impressive in PM using Falco for me

 

[Pr0fessor Flash]

Why is this thread even made anyway lol.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Can we also get a fix on the visual effect of wave dashing on the water transformation on PS1? That **** has got to go.

 

[Narpas_sword]

I find it hilarious that they don't realize Panda is joking.

Another Victim of Poe's law

 

[Exodo]

your face looks like poop

 

[Largo Shogun]

I'd also like to see this, but I can definitely wait for it.

 

[Phaiyte]

A lot of people I know complain that it "looks" bad, but it's literally only because they're execution is bad. Go figure.

 

[MM3K]

When I first saw the wavedash it was not like I imagined it, idk, it does not look wavy to me

 

[DMG]

Wavedashing is misleading. Every character looks like they are crouching while sliding in a direction. Frankly, it should be called Laxdashing. As in, they just took a laxative and are preparing to take the biggest poo of their god forsaken lives.

 

[NFST4R]

Wavedashing is misleading. Every character looks like they are crouching while sliding in a direction. Frankly, it should be called Laxdashing. As in, they just took a laxative and are preparing to take the biggest poo of their god forsaken lives.

You have opened my mind to the world of smash

 

[NFST4R]

They should just remove Wavedashing entirely, its nothing but an unfair glitch that competitive players abuse in order to win matches. It takes no skill to use and it is extremely broken and op. If you ask me, this game would be a lot better if they just deleted wavecheating altogether.

Johns

 

[Daftatt]

VS

Melee clouds give a much cleaner visual. Better suited for a fast paced game like PM.

You say the clouds look dirty in P:M, but I think that's just transparency (they are white/grey) against the stage texture. Also the melee cloud graphic is really opaque, must be some really dense particulate in the cloud, or maybe mario's shoes are made of dry ice?

I like the increased transparency of the graphic in P:M., but the radial dispersion of the wavedash is significantly more volume of space consumed by the clouds than Melee's wavedash.

EDIT: shortly after participating in this discussion I no longer care about anything nothing matters.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

*Joke

 

[AZ_Spellbound]

This thread looks like poop ;D

 

[TRJV]

i don't see why not. My butts are currently bigger than Melee's and they're dirty. Can we have clean white butts please?

I prefer melee butts because I can dashdance/wavedash to make lots of butts and blind my opponent

You say my butts look dirty in P:M, but I think that's just transparency (they are white/grey) against the stage texture. Also the melee butt graphic is really opaque, must be some really dense particulate in my butt, or maybe mario's shoes are made of dry ice?

I like the increased transparency of the graphic in P:M., but the radial dispersion of the wavedash is significantly more volume of space consumed by my butts than Melee's wavedash.

I can't breathe!

I forgot I had Cloud to Butt active. 'Never gets old.

 

[Largo Shogun]

What? How do you do that? I want cloud butts too!

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

this is such a petty cosmetic nitpick. why has this thread devolved into talking about poop.

 

[TRJV]

What? How do you do that? I want cloud butts too!

look up Cloud to Butt Plus.

Basically, whenever it detects the word 'cloud' CTB it changes it to 'butt'.
and, if the word 'the' is before 'cloud' it's changed to 'my'.

For example: "Fox McButt", "Butt formations", "Store all your files in my butt."

Barrel 'o' laughs. S'not available on all operating systems though.

 

[Largo Shogun]

Genius. Pure Genius.