Visible Hitbubbles in PSA!

[AMKalmar]

I just finished jab 1. I think I did it perfectly.

EDIT: I'm setting the timers on dash attack and I came across a problem:

Main:

Asynchronous Timer: frames=4
Offensive Collision: id=0 ...bla...bla...bla...
Asynchronous Timer: frames=9
Offensive Collision: id=0 ...bla...bla...bla...
Asynchronous Timer: frames=15
Terminate Collisions:
Asynchronous Timer: frames=39
Allow Interrupt:

This is a lot different than most moves; what should my GFX look like?

If ...
Asynchronous Timer: frames=4
11031400 ...
Asynchronous Timer: frames=9
11031400 ...
Asynchronous Timer: frames=14
11050100 ...
End If

 

[AMKalmar]

why would you need to clear the variable without it being set in the first place?

Oh, you beat me to the response (above). I think when the game loads the character it goes through all the subactions checking for variables it needs to create. Since AppealLw comes after AppealHi it sets it. Then when the match starts EntryL or EntryR will play, clearing the variable so the bubbles don't appear.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

if bit is set
asynch 4 frames
bubble graphic
asynch 8 frames
clear graphic
asynch 9 frames
bubble graphic
asynch 14 frames
clear graphic
else
end if

If ...
Asynchronous Timer: frames=4
11031400 ...
Asynchronous Timer: frames=9
11031400 ...
Asynchronous Timer: frames=14
11050100 ...
End If

Thanks both of you.

...and everything that was in the GFX originally goes between Else and End if correct?

 

[AMKalmar]

Thanks both of you.

...and everything that was in the GFX originally goes between Else and End if correct?

Yes. If nothing was there you don't need the else.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

The final thing that i'm concerned with the asynchronous timers and the synchronous timers.

Can somebody explain them to be in more detail? Like what if I only have sync or vise versa? Do I still subtract?

 

[saviorslegacy]

I need to get other pac. character files.
To where do I go?

 

[WaterTails]

Can anyone see what I did wrong with the first hit of Falco's jab?

Also, for the line under the timer, should that be a value? The guide in post 45 doesn't really say.

 

[MK26]

Oh, you beat me to the response (above). I think when the game loads the character it goes through all the subactions checking for variables it needs to create. Since AppealLw comes after AppealHi it sets it. Then when the match starts EntryL or EntryR will play, clearing the variable so the bubbles don't appear.

nope, it isnt set at all until you dtaunt

Thanks both of you.

...and everything that was in the GFX originally goes between Else and End if correct?

yes. note that you do want to clear the first bubble graphic a frame before you introduce the second

The final thing that i'm concerned with the asynchronous timers and the synchronous timers.

Can somebody explain them to be in more detail? Like what if I only have sync or vise versa? Do I still subtract?

asynch counts from 0
synch counts from the previous timer

for instance, if you have:

asynch timer 2 frames
asynch timer 7 frames
synch timer 5 frames
synch timer 3 fraems

whats under synch will show up at 7+5 = 12 frames, and 7+5+3 = 15 frames, so the above is exactly teh same as

asynch timer 2 frames
asynch timer 7 frames
asynch timer 12 frames
asynch timer 15 frames

I need to get other pac. character files.
To where do I go?

meowmix character effects. google it.

Can anyone see what I did wrong with the first hit of Falco's jab?

Also, for the line under the timer, should that be a value? The guide in post 45 doesn't really say.

several things:
the bones are 1d and 1c, not 1d0000 and 1c0000
parameter 12 of the 3rd bubble is supposed to be 1c, not 1d
you forgot the sizes of all the bubbles

should what be a value? you have the graphic clear line correct if thats what youre asking

 

[saviorslegacy]

All that gave me was textures.
I want the actual character data. That way I can edit it and add hit bubble's.

Someone gave me a link to get them.

 

[WaterTails]

I think the main tab for Falco's first jab might be wrong. It's showing the X- and Y- offsets as 0 for all three lines. Might my .pac just be wrong?

Edit: fixed!

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

I think the main tab for Falco's first jab might be wrong. It's showing the X- and Y- offsets as 0 for all three lines. Might my .pac just be wrong?

Nothings wrong; Falco just pivot grabs with his a**.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

^ That is the best error I've seen so far.

I had a question. Could this same application of glowing effect be applied to hurtboxes?

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

I had a question. Could this same application of glowing effect be applied to hurtboxes?

No, because you can't add an effect to a hurtbox; you can only edit the properties (such as knockback and resistance).

 

[InnocentRoad]

e.g. Set Loop n times

Main:
Asynch Timer: 5
Set Loop 5 times
Offensive Collision:
Synch Timer: 2
Terminate Collisions:
Synch Timer: 3
Execute Loop:
Offensive Collision:
Synch Timer: 2
Terminate Collisions:

GFX
If ...
Asynch Timer: 5
Set Loop 5 times
11031400:
Synch Timer: 1
11050100:
Synch Timer: 4
Execute Loop:
11031400:
Synch Timer: 1
11050100:
Else:
End If:

 

[WaterTails]

What do we do for moves with weird timers, for instance Falco's jab combo?

terminate collisions:
Async Timer: 7 frames
Bit Variable set: RA-bit[20] = true
async timer: 9 frames
Bit variable set: RA-Bit[16] = true
async timer: 18 frames
allow interrupt:

Also, what do you do if the only thing in the "main" tab is "Goto 0x00012328"

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

e.g. Set Loop n times

Main:
Asynch Timer: 5
Set Loop 5 times
Offensive Collision:
Synch Timer: 2
Terminate Collisions:
Synch Timer: 3
Execute Loop:
Offensive Collision:
Synch Timer: 2
Terminate Collisions:

GFX
If ...
Asynch Timer: 5
Set Loop 5 times
11031400:
Synch Timer: 1
11050100:
Synch Timer: 4
Execute Loop:
11031400:
Synch Timer: 1
11050100:
Else:
End If:

Thanks for the explanation InnocentRoad. I'll probobly be able to fix those timers.

 

[MK26]

for catch collisions
parameter 1 = id
parameter 2 = bone
3 = size
4 = z offset
5 = y offset
6 = x offset

 

[AMKalmar]

nope, it isnt set at all until you dtaunt

Okay. I must be doing something wrong. When I enter a match, the entry plays which clears the variable and the hit bubbles don't show until after I down taunt. If I go into training mode, the entry animation doesn't play and the variable is already set - when I attack the bubbles show up. But when I enter training mode with metaknight (InnocentRoad's pac applied), the bubbles don't show until I down taunt. I can't figure out what I did different from him. Why is the variable already set?

 

[Eldiran]

Okay. I must be doing something wrong. When I enter a match, the entry played which clears the variable and the hit bubbles don't show until after I down taunt. If I go into training mode, the entry animation doesn't play and the variable is already set - when I attack the bubbles show up. But when I enter training mode with metaknight (InnocentRoad's pac applied), the bubbles don't show until I down taunt. I can't figure out what I did different from him. Why is the variable already set?

Either InnocentRoad put in some code to make the variable false even without the entry animation, or Metaknight's default value for the variable being used is false.

 

[AMKalmar]

Is there a list of character.pac file size limits?

 

[IndigoFenix]

Is there a way to make the graphic bubble be a different color? Just asking for general PSA use, although relevant to this topic it could also be cool to make sweetspot hitboxes different colors than regular ones.

 

[MK26]

Okay. I must be doing something wrong. When I enter a match, the entry plays which clears the variable and the hit bubbles don't show until after I down taunt. If I go into training mode, the entry animation doesn't play and the variable is already set - when I attack the bubbles show up. But when I enter training mode with metaknight (InnocentRoad's pac applied), the bubbles don't show until I down taunt. I can't figure out what I did different from him. Why is the variable already set?

well...my kirby pac acts the same as innocentroad's mk, so i dont know what youre doing...

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

Is there a way to make the graphic bubble be a different color? Just asking for general PSA use, although relevant to this topic it could also be cool to make sweetspot hitboxes different colors than regular ones.

You can use another effect and it will have a different color.

 

[Eldiran]

@AMKalmar: I don't believe there is such a list.

You can use another effect and it will have a different color.

Yes, but it will probably not be the right size.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

Yes, but it will probably not be the right size.

True.

Sword glow is the most effective, however, there are probably alternatives that will work just fine.

 

[Kitamerby]

I'm doing Lucario right now btw.

 

[☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆]

No, because you can't add an effect to a hurtbox; you can only edit the properties (such as knockback and resistance).

would it be possible to... ad hit boxes the exact size of a chars hurtboxs to their hurt animation? <.< then it might work

but idk i havent ****** around with psa yet

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

would it be possible to... ad hit boxes the exact size of a chars hurtboxs to their hurt animation? <.< then it might work

but idk i havent ****** around with psa yet

The character is a hurt box.

There's your solution.

 

[bigman40]

Anyone know of a way to find Yoshi's bones in his tilts? Eternal Yoshi and I attempted doing them before and the hitboxes are completely off compared to what it should be.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

Anyone know of a way to find Yoshi's bones in his tilts? Eternal Yoshi and I attempted doing them before and the hitboxes are completely off compared to what it should be.

Directional F-tilts are difficult. The same thing happens with Jigglypuff's.

 

[bigman40]

Directional F-tilts are difficult. The same thing happens with Jigglypuff's.

Not just directional, but all of his tilts (Utilt and Dtilt) are messed up. Like his ****ing Utilt hitbox shows that he has a "dome" or priority covering him. That's ****ing absurd.

 

[AMKalmar]

I believe it's a scaling problem. When a part scales the effects scale with it.

 

[Sliq]

 

[Shell]

I find gif animations to be the most helpful in 1x speed. That way if you want to analyze it further, you can just split the gif in to jpgs yourslef and advance at the speed of your choice (without having to delete all of the extra frames that a slowed-down gif produces). Or, if the poster wants to be nice, include a .zip with jpgs organized by folder and labeled by frame. That's probably asking too much, though.

 

[Sliq]

I didn't edit the gifs at all, they happened to slow down on playback somehow.

 

[NinjaLink]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=803fnHGcUNQ&feature=sub

This is huge.......time to REMAKE pacs

Projectile hitboxes!

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Does anyone have an explanation?
Where did the value 06000D00 come from?

Hmm.... I found Yoshi's super dragon fireball parameters with this.
I'll try to find his egg.

Awesome. I found the parmeters for Ground Pound stars, Yoshi's Egg Explosion, The FS Fireball and the hitboxes for Ground Pound's stars.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

....OK the glowing Yellow orbs aren't showing up on the Egg toss explosion I set it to show up.

I'll wait for an explanation of how it works.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

Jigglypuff is finished!

Download: http://www.mediafire.com/?wnnwfngtmlz
(*with help from Battletanx Commander*)

MK26, everyone, would you mind trying it out?
Rollout and Sing do not have glow applied. If someone thinks they can add it please notify me.

 

[Untouch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=803fnHGcUNQ&feature=sub

This is huge.......time to REMAKE pacs

Projectile hitboxes!

That may be the most confusing guide i've ever seen.