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Tips on short hopping consistently?
- Thread starter MattLib
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Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
Just keep in mind that a shorthop has to do with how long you hold the jump button down, and nothing more.
Just try to tap X or Y as fast as you can, regardless or what you see on screen. Some people use the X button specifically so they can slide/flick their finger off the side of the controller for Fox, but I just practiced with Y and,like most people, I can do it no problem by simply pushing the button and releasing as soon as possible.
Just try to tap X or Y as fast as you can, regardless or what you see on screen. Some people use the X button specifically so they can slide/flick their finger off the side of the controller for Fox, but I just practiced with Y and,like most people, I can do it no problem by simply pushing the button and releasing as soon as possible.
Thank you! Focusing on tapping instead of sliding really helped. Time to go practise
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I flick the bottom edge of the x button with the right corner of my thumbnail
Twitchy
Smash Cadet
I try and use X exclusively for short hopping and wavedashing, and Y for full jumps. It might just be me but it really helped get a feel for when I use the different jumps. My muscle memory puts my thump to X for SHL's and to Y for jump canceling a shine into a pillar
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LotoSage
Smash Rookie
I sort of "sting" the edge of the button by flicking or sliding it with the edge of my thumb, the same as I do for wavedashing. It seems to work well for me a good amount of the time.
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Phantom High
Smash Apprentice
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That's really solid advice. I could only short hop out of dash dancing.
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Hahaa
Also, do white controllers use a softer plastic? Doing my technique has caused a dent in mine and on my previous purple, black, and wavebird controllers, I can't remember getting any dents under the X button
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A good way to practice tech in general is to overexaggerate your movements. Not only will you develop range of motion in your thumbs, but the large movements should highlight the small inconsistencies between each attempt. Start lifting your thumb way the hell up and really slapping it down on the jump button of your choice. It's not a bad idea to think of your controller as a musical instrument. Really get into it, put your whole body into that shorthop. I feel like I'm beating on a small set of DK bongos once I start hitting my groove.
Fox was my first character in melee, so developing consistent shorthops was both a curse and a blessing. Fox shorthops require you to release your jump button extremely quickly (meaning every other character will seem easy.) My shorthops became consistent almost overnight once I started relaxing my controller grip. Instead of "holding" your controller, think about resting it upon your pinky and ring fingers (and middle fingers if you hit triggers with pointer fingers.) You want your thumbs to have huge ranges of motion, but they must be relaxed in order to remain steady across those ranges. Your muscles can't relax if you're sandwiching the controller too hard between your hands -- let gravity help. You should be able to open your palms outward and look at them like a storybook without feeling like you'll drop anything.
If you're relaxed you should be able to hit shorthops using all sorts of weird motions -- you'll need several of them, even for a single character. As a fox main I tend to flick my thumb sideways off the left/bottom part of the Y button in such a way that I can continue moving my thumb left and shine using the knuckle-joint part of my thumb, or continue moving my thumb down into a c-stick aerial (dairs and bairs.) If I need to either nair, or bair while moving in the direction of the bair, I will flick the tip of my thumb upwards off the top of the Y button and hit A with the knuckle-joint.
Fox was my first character in melee, so developing consistent shorthops was both a curse and a blessing. Fox shorthops require you to release your jump button extremely quickly (meaning every other character will seem easy.) My shorthops became consistent almost overnight once I started relaxing my controller grip. Instead of "holding" your controller, think about resting it upon your pinky and ring fingers (and middle fingers if you hit triggers with pointer fingers.) You want your thumbs to have huge ranges of motion, but they must be relaxed in order to remain steady across those ranges. Your muscles can't relax if you're sandwiching the controller too hard between your hands -- let gravity help. You should be able to open your palms outward and look at them like a storybook without feeling like you'll drop anything.
If you're relaxed you should be able to hit shorthops using all sorts of weird motions -- you'll need several of them, even for a single character. As a fox main I tend to flick my thumb sideways off the left/bottom part of the Y button in such a way that I can continue moving my thumb left and shine using the knuckle-joint part of my thumb, or continue moving my thumb down into a c-stick aerial (dairs and bairs.) If I need to either nair, or bair while moving in the direction of the bair, I will flick the tip of my thumb upwards off the top of the Y button and hit A with the knuckle-joint.