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Tips on Setting up Safer KOs?

KenMeister

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Hey guys, I play a really defensive Sheik, and while I don't have much of an issue comboing or camping, I have too much trouble finding reliable set ups to KO with. I know most of her aerials kill at high percents, her smashes kill at decent percents, and BF is godlike (assuming you land it), but I run into way too many where I either have trouble edgeguarding good players with good recoveries, or I'm too hesitant to land a smash attack, as they have way too much endlag. Pretty tired of fighting characters like Bowser and Wario and they end up living to like 200% + percent before I kill them with a fair or bair, like wtf. lol
 

KenMeister

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Hey guys, I play a really defensive Sheik, and while I don't have much of an issue comboing or camping, I have too much trouble finding reliable set ups to KO with. I know most of her aerials kill at high percents, her smashes kill at decent percents, and BF is godlike (assuming you land it), but I run into quite a few issues where I either have trouble edgeguarding good players with good recoveries, or I'm too hesitant to land a smash attack, as they have way too much endlag. Pretty tired of fighting characters like Bowser and Wario and they end up living to like 200% + percent before I kill them with a fair or bair, like wtf. lol
 

Teran

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BF is particularly good offstage. Do you land many grabs? Throwing them offstage and following up with BF is quite a common killing setup, and depending on the character it can kill very early.
 

KenMeister

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BF is particularly good offstage. Do you land many grabs? Throwing them offstage and following up with BF is quite a common killing setup, and depending on the character it can kill very early.
Grab is love and life for me, with Dthrow and Fthrow being most common for me. I recently figured out about the grab releases, but I know it doesn't work with everyone. Also, how do I lead into BF from a grab without some air dodging it?
 

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Do you're BF twice into their Airdodge, and once thhey figured you'd go for that combo wait for them to airdodge and then BF? Or just be faster then they can airdodge. Also, Fthror -> Fair-> BF can work, if you space correctly. You need to get used to it, but it's worth the effort.
 

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you can't always. sometimes you have to hope for the best. some times you can bait an air dodge.

I have the same issues killing. I suggest really try to manage your opponents damage so that you can combo into uair from ftilt or dtilt. Try and learn your opponents habits or condition them to pick certain choices and then punish them for picking an option you expect to happen.
They always roll behind me when I do "X" now they are at killo percent so I do X (or fake like I will do X) and fsmash behind me for a kill.
 

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Grab is love and life for me, with Dthrow and Fthrow being most common for me. I recently figured out about the grab releases, but I know it doesn't work with everyone. Also, how do I lead into BF from a grab without some air dodging it?
It's in the timing, you don't always have to jump straight into a BF, you can delay it too to throw them off. You can even do empty jumps to bait airdodges and follow up with something else. This game is generally very sparing on concrete followups, so it's a case of baiting and outwitting in most cases. The key to having them offstage with BF in your arsenal is it puts you in firm command of the situation. They know they're in a lot of danger and you know you have the chance for a kill. As long as you aren't too hungry and maintain composure, you should be able to make something of the situation even if it isn't a kill.
 
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Jackson

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Unstaled Uair is a good kill option. It can be difficult to combo into at percents at which it actually kills. I've noticed meany people recover high: if they think you're gonna fair them , they jump. Think about this and jump also, catching their jump with a Uair. I've killed many opponents with this.
 
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