Tier list for Marth's moves

[Emblem Lord]

So, yeah I completely ripped off the Falco boards for this thread. Ah, well.

Anyway, here is my tier list.

Top Tier

Fair
D-tilt
Dancing Blade

High Tier

Dolphin Slash
Nair
Uair
Bair

Mid Tier

U-smash
D-smash
F-throw
U-tilt
D-throw
U-throw
F-tilt

Low Tier

Jab
F-smash
Counter
Shieldbreaker

Bottom Tier

Dair
B-throw
Dash attack


Top tier is Marth's bread and butter. It's the core of his gameplay. The high tier moves are great moves that have strong properties. Mid tier are solid moves that have some weaknesses. Low tier are moves that should be used sparingly and when you do, they should be done with caution and alot of thought. Bottom tier should be avoided at all costs.

Discuss and feel free to post your own lists.

 

[bludhoundz]

I'd move Utilt up a little.

That's about it.. your list is solid.

 

[Emblem Lord]

Oh, yeah I forgot to say this.

The moves aren't ordered within the tiers, but I guess I'll go back and order them.

Edit: Now it's in order.

 

[∫unk]

If you aren't ordering within the tiers then that's fine, only difference I'd have d-air in bottom tier.

If you are, tilts should be above throws.

This is kinda a useless tier list (like all tier lists) but you're probably just bored XD

 

[SwastikaPyle]

I don't see many Marth's use dtilt a lot. Any vids of heavy dtilters?

 

[Emblem Lord]

Junk: Marth's throws overall are better then his f-tilt since f-tilt is unsafe vs about half the cast. Throws beat shields and set-up for Marth's spacing. The damage is crap, but they are slightly more abusable then f-tilt. Which is why they are one spot higher then f-tilt.

Dair.....eh. Why not?

*Moves Dair to bottom tier.

Swastika: Well they should use it since it's easily one of the best pokes in the game. Second only to MK's d-tilt/f-tilt IMO.

 

[∫unk]

Junk: Marth's throws overall are better then his f-tilt since f-tilt is unsafe vs about half the cast. Throws beat shields and set-up for Marth's spacing.

Tru dat.

I'm just being bitter against throws because they don't actually set up into anything like a grab release (except at super low percent).

 

[Steel]

Mine:

Top Tier

Fair
Dancing Blade
Dtilt
Dolphin Slash

High Tier

Nair
Up air
Up Smash
Bair

Mid Tier

Jab
Fthrow
Dthrow
Down smash
Up tilt
Forward smash
Uthrow
Ftilt

Low Tier

Counter
Shield breaker

Bottom Tier

Dair
Dash Attack
Bthrow

pretty similar compared to EL's.

 

[ZHMT]

Kinda glad someone likes dtilt as much as I do. Anyways good lists Steel and EL.

 

[toasty]

good lists...I might have to lurk the Marth boards some day =D Kadaj never tells me anything because he doesn't want me "copying" him ;__;

 

[~ Gheb ~]

DS for Top tier!

 

[toasty]

DS for Top tier!

I disagree...it's nowhere nearly as safe as the other top tier options, which should be a big factor in its placing and, ultimately, it's frequency of use.

 

[Actraiser]

You guys really think Dair should never be used? I find it somewhat effective at times.. but I guess I don't really play against high level competition XD

 

[toasty]

You guys really think Dair should never be used? I find it somewhat effective at times.. but I guess I don't really play against high level competition XD

actually I thought this should have some clarification as well...it shouldn't be avoided at all costs, you just need to be perfect with it XD

 

[Emblem Lord]

I had Dair in low tier since it will see some use here and there.

But top of bottom is ok too.

DS is good, but it's unsafe so that's why I didn't put it in high tier.

 

[Unusual_Rex]

Why is F-Smash so low? It's an amazing killer move.

 

[Qckpy01]

^^ True, but safer when done out of shield. On block.

 

[bludhoundz]

It's really unsafe, unless your opponent is in some kind of cooldown or startup lag.

Marth's Fsmash was a lot better in Melee. They nerfed it in Brawl.

 

[Qckpy01]

I meant up-b referring to Emblems statement. I guess I should've quoted..........

 

[Darxmarth23]

This helps quite a lot.

I think u-tilt should be up a little higher.

you guys know more than i do. do what ever you want.

 

[L-R-A-Start]

Sorry, but this tier list is waaaayyyyy off. Well, maybe not way off, but how is Fair not God Tier? I'm telling everyone to avoid this thread until you edit that. XD Jk, obviously.

 

[Emblem Lord]

I don't think Marth has any moves that warrant God Tier status.

 

[toasty]

MK is just about the only char. with a move warranting God Tier but even THEN it's matchup based...for the record, God Tier implies good in nearly EVERY situation. Above and beyond convention. And it's almost entirely fool-proof. Marth's fair...does not fit this description.

 

[Remzi]

I think bair is just a bit high, and DS is a bit low. Otherwise, it's great. Nice job EL

 

[bludhoundz]

I meant up-b referring to Emblems statement. I guess I should've quoted..........

Me too.

I was actually answering the question that the guy above you posed.

You posted while I was typing my response.

 

[Darxmarth23]

once again EL has proven how much of a beast he is.

 

[cman]

I don't think shieldbreaker should be low tier. It's unsafe, but all you really need to do is hit the shield once to severely mess with a person's defensive game. It doesn't even need to break it to have a large effect on your opponent's actions. Maybe mid

 

[Steel]

The shield becomes small. Your opponent can go back to their normal game plan after possibly punishing you for the lag. I don't buy that "i'm scared to shield now so i will play differently" thing.

It also fits the definition for low tier imo: "Low tier are moves that should be used sparingly and when you do, they should be done with caution and alot of thought."

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

My list:

Top Tier

Fair
Dtilt
DB

High Tier

Nair
DS
Uair

Middle Tier

Bair
Usmash
Utilt
Dsmash
Ftilt
Dthrow/Fthrow
Uthrow (against Snake this moves up a bit for juggling possibilities, but overall is here)
Fsmash

Low Tier

Jab
Shieldbreaker
Counter
Dair

Bottom Tier

Dash Attack
Bthrow.


Comment if you want just IMO, I really love Nair.

 

[Darxmarth23]

i like solids list the most.

 

[BarDulL]

Up B for top tier.

 

[Steel]

i don't understand why dash attack is below back throw. dash attack can be used for edge guarding in a way. back throw is NEVER a good option

 

[∫unk]

I back throw'd once when I meant to down throw. It was pretty sweet.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

i don't understand why dash attack is below back throw. dash attack can be used for edge guarding in a way. back throw is NEVER a good option

Interesting. I've never really thought about that much, but they both suck, I might change mine then. And thanks Darxmarth.

But Steel in Marth dittos (lulz) at 0 isn't Bthrow to tipper Fsmash a true combo, even if they DI? That's just one thing though.

 

[Steel]

I back throw'd once when I meant to down throw. It was pretty sweet.

marth's finger slip moves aren't that bad tbh

 

[Steel]

Interesting. I've never really thought about that much, but they both suck, I might change mine then. And thanks Darxmarth.

But Steel in Marth dittos (lulz) at 0 isn't Bthrow to tipper Fsmash a true combo, even if they DI? That's just one thing though.

i've never even tried it. but since dthrow has less lag i don't really see how bthrow would be any better, much less work. i just fthrow to stutter step fsmash

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Oh, I know Bthrow sucks, lol, Dthrow is better, I was just thinkind that I'd heard that from someone here. W/E, it is a bad move.

 

[∫unk]

It does 1% more than f-throw. Think about it.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Whoah. And Fsmash does more damage than Fair. Woop-dee-doo.

 

[∫unk]

Whoah. And Fsmash does more damage than Fair. Woop-dee-doo.

So... you're telling me I should b-throw then f-smash?