hidensheik11
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What do you think of this new tier list?
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I'd say Marf above Sheik.
What do you think of this new tier list?
I've never heard of Marf before. Is he a new character? Is Nintendo announcing Melee DLC at E3? It's been 14 years since Melee's release. 4-1=3. One and a half lives confirmed.I'd say Marf above Sheik.
I agree with this except that I would argue that Game and Watch should be right above Roy.I've never heard of Marf before. Is he a new character? Is Nintendo announcing Melee DLC at E3? It's been 14 years since Melee's release. 4-1=3. One and a half lives confirmed.
But in all seriousness, I think that Yoshi should move to the lowest spot on A tier, Roy should be above Zelda (and possibly DK?), Bowser should be last, Marth should be above Shiek, and G&W should be right behind Roy. Other than that, good list.
this one is different
Yeah but that's where tier list discussion belongs because as you can imagine there's been tons of threads like this. Also really annoying how 99% of the people that will post in this thread will feel entitled to state the tier list even though they havent even been to tournaments at all it's just funny.this one is different
Peach being a tier Pikachu? lol? By the way, the tier list you just named is abysmal, might as well have a casual make it.i'd say ranking is accurate but categories are not the b tier should consist of tier ranks 14 to 23 and the s tier be divided into tiers p (perfect) and s mario link donkey kong young link yoshi zelda roy mewtwo mr game and watch and ness have mediocre but not abysmal matchups (kirby being the worst) but no seriously luigi is pretty bad 22nd at best mario through ness except yoshi being at least 21st peach being a tier pikachu being b tier yoshi at 23rd and kirby 26th and bowser 25th pichu is 24th i just call it as i see it or we could make the bottom 21 the f tier
Gosh I just hate Roy so much though.Marth is not above Sheik. At least right now.
Move Yoshi up. Maybe Roy.
Why not? Honestly, we're seeing way more Marths in the meta, and more successful Marths than successful Sheiks. Think about it. Notable Marth mains: M2K, PPMD, PewPewU, The Moon, Ken, Arc, I.B., etc, and the fact that people are starting to switch to him or use him as a secondary (Fiction/Shroomed). Notable Sheik Mains: M2K, Shroomed, Ice (not really anymore), KirbyKaze.... and I guess that's it. If you think about it too, all of the Sheik users I mentioned except for KK kinda dual main, while only the first two Marths I mentioned dual main. That's just how I see it.Marth is not above Sheik. At least right now.
Move Yoshi up. Maybe Roy.
Your A tier "probably not winning majors" seems very biased by current players. As a character, I believe a lot of characters have the tools to win a major, particularly ICs and Falcon, from your list. Sure, there aren't players that are likely to take a major anytime soon, but you'll notice that the S tier are just the characters the "Gods" use, and they're the only players to win majors for years. But a tier list should be about characters, rather than players. Obviously players and results inform and demonstrate potential, but be careful when saying what a character is not capable of.
This is my tier list I made a couple of weeks back.
S tier = capability of winning nationals/majors
A tier = capability of getting good placings, but probably not winning majors
F tier = nahhhhhhh
But Ness and Roy were in different buckets. There are a number of other placements I had problems with order-wise, but that (and Mario being a tier above Doc) are the main bucket-problems.The order doesn't matter, as long as they're in the right bucket.
Nah, matchup's almost even. Marth has this really big sword that isn't even connected to him.I don't know if Marth should be above Sheik. It's just that Sheik beats Marth really easily, but then again, that's one matchup only.
I never said I agreed with the list the OP posted. I think the entire idea of a tier list in this meta is stupid to begin with.But Ness and Roy were in different buckets. There are a number of other placements I had problems with order-wise, but that (and Mario being a tier above Doc) are the main bucket-problems.
Which is why we need a new MU list. Badly.Beyond that, matchup information is more useful than tier placement.
But whats funnier is I didn't even touch the S tiers, and people make small changes because for the most part the current tier list is agreeable. but the A tier can be argued which is where I made most changes. but good luck finding a drastically changed tier list like you were hoping forThe funny thing is that I see this list and see no difference to really any other tier list. There are small changes such as say Fox/Falco above each other. Then, down to say peach/jiggs/marth/sheik area. Down to say is kirby or pichu worse. After all these years there is not really any list that will be drastically different. Most are like +2 to -2 position swaps and that goes back and forth all the time.
That's what I find funny about tier list discussion and their threads. They draw the most conversation but by the end absolutely nothing has changed since the beginning, all opinions have not contributed anything productive at all. In essence it's just 1-3 hours of your life wasted every time talking in circles. Same goes for match-ups, I think people just like expressing their opinions no matter how ill equipped or biased they may be.But whats funnier is I didn't even touch the S tiers, and people make small changes because for the most part the current tier list is agreeable. but the A tier can be argued which is where I made most changes. but good luck finding a drastically changed tier list like you were hoping for
Only another 12 hours of work to pay off that new CoD and a season pass (such a waste of money)!That's what I find funny about tier list discussion and their threads. They draw the most conversation but by the end absolutely nothing has changed since the beginning, all opinions have not contributed anything productive at all. In essence it's just 1-3 hours of your life wasted every time talking in circles. Same goes for match-ups, I think people just like expressing their opinions no matter now ill equipped or biased they may be.
As the tier list stands right now it's fine, no changes would even matter even if Kirby miraculously jumped up to top B tier. It would mean absolutely nothing.
And arguing over 1 spot or 2 spots or swapping places within tiers is even more pedantic and useless. Think about that 1-3 hours lost, even at minimum wage that's like $24 you just threw away :/ *whomp whomp* I guess as long as you enjoy the talking in circles part it's all good.
My opinion on this is not as... negative as KingPiano's, but it sort of sums up my thoughts. I am not saying the discussion is useless. Its enjoyable to debate over things like this.But whats funnier is I didn't even touch the S tiers, and people make small changes because for the most part the current tier list is agreeable. but the A tier can be argued which is where I made most changes. but good luck finding a drastically changed tier list like you were hoping for