The Tier Lists are wrong

[BeatMyLuigi]

the tier lists are all wrong & I will explain how we can fix it.

Most recent as of 2014 (left to right / best to worst) [according to Smash Back Room]

N64
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Melee
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Brawl

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Now while I respect Smash Back Room, I also respectfully disagree with these lists.

Most recent as of 2014 (left to right / best to worst) [according to Me & You]

N64
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Melee
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Brawl
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the rest of Melee & Brawl I have to figure out later, it will take some time.

 

[Thor]

I'm probably feeding a troll, but your tier lists are lies. There are far more problems than what I list but I'll start off:

Luigi at the top of SSB one is a joke, Yoshi that high is bad placement, Jiggs that low is obviously wrong (Isai too good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L3AVPGsgLY )

The Melee one might have looked reasonable until I got to fourth place - Captain Falcon is 7th at best (given Wobbles's rather recent placement, ICs may be better suited for 7th), Bowser is garbage (even Bowser mains will tell you he's worse than the top 6 you have), Peach is better than that (meet Armada n00b), YL is not that good (he's -1 against Puff, so what).

Not even gonna start on the Brawl one, other than 1) There's not an MK on top and 2) There's not an ICs on top - the former beats literally everyone with the exception of Pikachu (and many dispute that), the latter can zero-death anyone in the cast with some practice inescapably - no one else has that kind of combo ability.

3) I don't know what professionals you know, but they are not the people who actually know how to play the game at its highest level. Unless you'd like to provide footage of Nairo, Zero, M2K, Tyrant, Ally, or Anti losing to these characters while playing Meta Knight (hint: you wont' find it).

Mods, lock thread please.

 

[BeatMyLuigi]

I'm probably feeding a troll, but your tier lists are lies. There are far more problems than what I list but I'll start off:

Luigi at the top of SSB one is a joke, Yoshi that high is bad placement, Jiggs that low is obviously wrong (Isai too good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L3AVPGsgLY )

The Melee one might have looked reasonable until I got to fourth place - Captain Falcon is 7th at best (given Wobbles's rather recent placement, ICs may be better suited for 7th), Bowser is garbage (even Bowser mains will tell you he's worse than the top 6 you have), Peach is better than that (meet Armada n00b), YL is not that good (he's -1 against Puff, so what).

Not even gonna start on the Brawl one, other than 1) There's not an MK on top and 2) There's not an ICs on top - the former beats literally everyone with the exception of Pikachu (and many dispute that), the latter can zero-death anyone in the cast with some practice inescapably - no one else has that kind of combo ability.

3) I don't know what professionals you know, but they are not the people who actually know how to play the game at its highest level. Unless you'd like to provide footage of Nairo, Zero, M2K, Tyrant, Ally, or Anti losing to these characters while playing Meta Knight (hint: you wont' find it).

Mods, lock thread please.

you overestimate MK in Brawl, underestimate Bowser in Melee, & Luigi in 64.

I bet I can beat you with Bowser, then you won't talk **** about him.

 

[Man Li Gi]

and you overestimate MK & talk underestimate Bowser

 

[BeatMyLuigi]

you must be the grammar nazi on these boards, nice to meet you

there is always atleast one on every forum

 

[mimgrim]

[according to Me & You]

Why do you presume to speak for me?

 

[BeatMyLuigi]

Why do you presume to speak for me?

cause you are a follower, you guys can't think for yourselves

 

[mimgrim]

cause you are a follower, you guys can't think for yourselves

I'm a follower!?

Of what!?

People need to tell me when they get me into cults. This is like the 50th time this has happened to me.

 

[BeatMyLuigi]

I'm a follower!?

Of what!?

People need to tell me when they get me into cults. This is like the 50th time this has happened to me.

kirby is your main in 64, of course you are a follower

I run down kirbys any tourny I go into

 

[mimgrim]

kirby is your main in 64, of course you are a follower

I randomly change my 64 main icon every so often because I have no real main in the game. e_e

 

[BeatMyLuigi]

I randomly change my 64 main icon every so often because I have no real main in the game. e_e

if you think that makes you a leader, then you should be ashamed

 

[mimgrim]

if you think that makes you a leader, then you should be ashamed

 

[Man Li Gi]

you must be the grammar nazi on these boards, nice to meet you

there is always atleast one on every forum

Not really a grammar person (please don't bring the National Socialist Party in your argument), but I noticed the words seemed off and I heavily disagree with what you're saying.

 

[BeatMyLuigi]

Not really a grammar person (please don't bring the National Socialist Party in your argument), but I noticed the words seemed off and I heavily disagree with what you're saying.

pretty sure you get off on Conjunction Junction

 

[Thor]

I bet I can beat you with Bowser, then you won't talk **** about him.

$20 MM me cuz you're wrong and I'm broke or I'd make the value higher.

Admittedly, I have no way of travelling, but I'm sure you'll either change your tune or we'll somehow find a way to make this happen.

cause you are a follower, you guys can't think for yourselves

I can definitely think for myself. I still think (more or less) that Pikachu = MK in that MU (note that many many people disagree with me). I also think Luigi is last on the list of SSB64, Samus is better. I also think Falco and Fox should have some sort of approximately equal sign next to them on the Melee tier list - I don't think one is distinctly better than the other, since I think they're even and they each have zero bad MUs (+ Dr PP is currently the champ, APEX 2014). Admittedly Fox has fewer even MUs, but if you know all your MUs, Falco does just fine in pretty much all of them, so if you're better than your opponent when sizing up all factors including character, you will win playing as Fox or Falco, because neither holds you back in any MU.

Also no way Kirby is that low in your Smash 64 list. He's at least better than Luigi. I think Luigi should be bottom on that list. Jiggs should be at least like 9th.

Or else you have a lot of explaining for why you placed who where you did ASAP. Considering the best players in the world will **** on your opinions, and have the years of experience (and game footage) to back it up.

 

[BeatMyLuigi]

$20 MM me cuz you're wrong and I'm broke or I'd make the value higher.

Admittedly, I have no way of travelling, but I'm sure you'll either change your tune or we'll somehow find a way to make this happen.



I can definitely think for myself. I still think (more or less) that Pikachu = MK in that MU (note that many many people disagree with me). I also think Luigi is last on the list of SSB64, Samus is better. I also think Falco and Fox should have some sort of approximately equal sign next to them on the Melee tier list - I don't think one is distinctly better than the other, since I think they're even and they each have zero bad MUs (+ Dr PP is currently the champ, APEX 2014). Admittedly Fox has fewer even MUs, but if you know all your MUs, Falco does just fine in pretty much all of them, so if you're better than your opponent when sizing up all factors including character, you will win playing as Fox or Falco, because neither holds you back in any MU.

Also no way Kirby is that low in your Smash 64 list. He's at least better than Luigi. I think Luigi should be bottom on that list. Jiggs should be at least like 9th.

Or else you have a lot of explaining for why you placed who where you did ASAP. Considering the best players in the world will **** on your opinions, and have the years of experience (and game footage) to back it up.

they just don't want to be embarrased when they lose to luigi or bowser, that is all

 

[mimgrim]

I can definitely think for myself..

http://********/images/boromir/one-does-not-simply-leave-the-hive-sober-thumb.jpg

When you're part of a hive you are not allowed to think for yourself.

It's obvious BeatMyLuigi is our queen

And we are the obedient children

But hey. At least we get to make her pregnant over and over again.

 

[BeatMyLuigi]

When you're part of a hive you are not allowed to think for yourself.

It's obvious BeatMyLuigi is our queen

And we are the obedient children

But hey. At least we get to make her pregnant over and over again.

I lost you at pregnant

 

[Redd]

What is this I don't even