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about ness, and mario...
it really doesnt matter because sonic is better than both of them
it really doesnt matter because sonic is better than both of them
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If you don't know about match ups, why are you posting about how one's better than another?In. My. Opinion.
I feel that Ness has better aerials than Mario. Mario has a better ground game of course. Ness' ground game sets up for aerials e.c.t. Both have an uptilt juggle (But Mario's is better) IMO Ness has a better recovery too. (slightly)
Tourney results we're slightly better.
Don't know about matchups yet, but I think Ness has decent matchups. ( Mario too I suppose)
Maybe they are equal. Doesn't stop me from picking a favorite.
I suppose it's not nice, but whatever, high school is making me crazy.
Now it's getting funny eh?about ness, and mario...
it really doesnt matter because sonic is better than both of them
Welcome to the Smashboards.Tier Lists are a waste of time and effort
Tiers are nothing. That's what I believe.
I mean c'mon Link in Low Tier?
Teh! I say Link can beat Metaknight with Ease if you set your mind to it right.
Toonlink in Middle? Yeah right, I can kick any Top tiers with him.
Tiers are a waste, it should be taken down. It's useless and it brings a lot of people's hopes down too.
then ignore itTier Lists are a waste of time and effort
Tiers are nothing. That's what I believe.
I mean c'mon Link in Low Tier?
Teh! I say Link can beat Metaknight with Ease if you set your mind to it right.
Toonlink in Middle? Yeah right, I can kick any Top tiers with him.
Tiers are a waste, it should be taken down. It's useless and it brings a lot of people's hopes down too.
You are one of a kind. You want your main LOWER? Weird.Olimar is too high. He should be at the bottom of mid tier. ^__^
Useless if no one explains anythingYou are one of a kind. You want your main LOWER? Weird.
Edit.
Ness is no longer low tier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy_1ttIB7A0
Useless if no one explains anything
Not useless. Far from it.Ref said:Okay Now normally you guys would just DI by holding away. Now I present to you Extra Inch DI.
What it does: It makes you move a bit further when breaking out of grabs.
Hold diagonally up and away on the joy stick, then whail on the C stick in the same direction, keep flicking the C stick.
Once that is done Ness will slide drastically further. Video will be up soon...
Ness will fall out of Marth's grab range. Marth can just dashing grab chain you, but that's not as effective.
Should've originally posted thatNot useless. Far from it.
....wowBetter tourney results. I come in because I dislike the board, simple enough. Matador your okay, and the others are cool too, but some of you drive me nuts.
And It's 55% of the stuff I say is correct. (get it right)
Ness' aerials are better for scoring KOs but I don't see how else. They link into each other nicely but not as well as Mario can link his together. We can also SH our aerials better because they're faster and have less ending lag. We also have options with the cape for baiting out of shields and things of that nature. It's not like ours can't KO either; Bair, Nair, and reverse Uairs do so pretty well when needed.In. My. Opinion.
I feel that Ness has better aerials than Mario. Mario has a better ground game of course. Ness' ground game sets up for aerials e.c.t. Both have an uptilt juggle (But Mario's is better) IMO Ness has a better recovery too. (slightly)
Get over yourself, both are piss poor compared to everyone in mid tier. This isn't a reason.Tourney results we're slightly better.
Don't know about matchups yet, but I think Ness has decent matchups. ( Mario too I suppose)
Fail.Maybe they are equal. Doesn't stop me from picking a favorite.
lol...high school...I suppose it's not nice, but whatever, high school is making me crazy.
At this point, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. We'll see if Pit moves up or drops to Middle Tier. When it's the latter, I'll personally apologize for doubting you (and you can say "I told you so" all you want).Also @ Andrew Carlson
I'm not saying Pit isn't a good character. But he isn't close as good as any other high tier charcter. There's no way he's in the same tier as Lucario or Donkey Kong
Agreeing with user.I don't think Pit will drop. I just don't think he's high tier, that's all...
Bowser covers less area, but is a lot more difficult to stop because it's actually a good attack.Piss poor is a bit harsh, more like slightly worse. I mean, I think they're better than Bowser...
Lol, you sir, win the internet.Im 44, Im retaking Highschool, because I never got to finish it Okay?
Grade 11 is actually quite difficult.
Agreed. The stuff you can do out of it are 2 good.Bowser has the best grab release in the game
They link together very well, just not as good as Mario's. This, and the fact that he combos from below where alot of characters are vulnerable (ROB, Marth), is what makes his aerial game so great. It's not a blowout, but Mario has the edge.Uhh, they link together fine. Double bairs, double uairs and double fairs
This kind of testing is so flawed. It doesn't even factor in autosnap or the fact that your opposition WILL try to gimp you; 2 areas where Mario excels in his recovery. Luigi covers a billion blocks more, but his recovery is so gimpable that it doesn't make a difference.Again, why do you bring out gimpable recovery when his double jump covers 3 blocks? (Marios full recovery covers 4) It can be gimped, but not as easily as many people say, it's rarely used.
Then Bowser's in that boat too. We're all doing horribly in tourneys mainly because alot of people aren't getting out there to attend; myself included.Piss poor is a bit harsh, more like slightly worse. I mean, I think they're better than Bowser...
Wait....What?It's irrevelent on how well his gimping capabilities are (they're OK) plus the new technique Ref found out eliminates some grab release problems.
Well good for u (if ur serious). Much respectIm 44, Im retaking Highschool, because I never got to finish it Okay?
Grade 11 is actually quite difficult.
Agreed. The stuff you can do out of it are 2 good.
Yoshi's is really good as well so I'm not really sure who comes out on top .
-Bowser King
Mmac, Bowsers grab releases aren't hard to do at all, and vs Falco it's almost a 0 death (on FD you can just grab release + jab him unitl the edge and get a free fair)
Well... Bowser can do Grab Release combos to more Characters (Almost every character except for DK and Yoshi. Yoshi can only do it to half the roster), but Yoshi is much easier to do, and can punish some characters like Falco and Snake very heavily from it.
Overall, I guess Bowser is better, but then again, those two are the only one with universal Grab Release tactics
Stop sucking for 3 min? Does that even make sense?falcon is amazing if you guys can just stop sucking for 3 minutes.
Same as falco's lasers, jump, WAIT, then attack. -.-
As many as I want..... Wait, your non animated Bowser better?!?@ Mmac....my ending is so much cooler then your blue yoshi (how many of those do you have?)
-Bowser King
As many as I want..... Wait, your non animated Bowser better?!?
MADNESS!!! I will not stand for this!
CYAN YOSHI ARMY, ATTACK!!!
You stole those, mine are made from scratch. Your Dan Dare Bowser's are no match for my Army!
I win?
-Bowser King
Mmac... Your too funny!You stole those, mine are made from scratch. Your Dan Dare Bowser's are no match for my Army!