No truce? That's fine with me, I don't mind continuing the debate.
Yoshi has had: 10
Mario has had: 130
DK has had: 59
Wario has had: 13
Luigi has had: 2, 1 upcoming
Dr. Mario has had: 8
Paper Mario has had: 4
This is the number of appearances (exactly) of each series or sub-series of Mario. Can you see why trying to compare a character from one of the sub-series' of mario to the mario series, you'd need to use an average. In shy guy's case, 10 yoshi games and 130 mario, it's practically impossible for him not to be in more mario games; as it is for every other character in the series. On weight-loss shows, they judge how much wait someone has lost with a percentage, rather than the actual weight-loss because it's only fair. This is exactly the same.
I too like a good debate, and it took me 30 minutes to relay the information from here:
http://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_Mario_games_by_date to my post after reading scolosis jones, and I'm hoping you may finally see it how I do.
I can see what you are
trying to say, but it is still illogical.
First of all, the fact that there are 130 Mario games compared to Yoshi's meager amount of 10 doesn't make Shy Guy more of a Yoshi character, but in fact it does the opposite. There are many people who don't even consider the Yoshi's Island series as a separate series from Mario (or rather, consider it just a sub-series, but still MARIO). Basically, Yoshi is a Mario character, but Sakurai acknowledges that the character has spawned
his own sort of sub-series, and so he gets his own series. The same can't be said for Shy Guy. He has appeared in more Yoshi games "on average", but he originated in Mario and appears in more Mario games (as he continues to do, unlike Yoshi's Island). This makes him more recognizable as a Mario character. He is basically a Mario character at his core, that happens to appear in more Yoshi games "on average."
By the way, the whole "on average" rule is something that you just made up. Show me where Sakurai back-up this rule of yours, and maybe I'll accept it ("I have a
feeling that Sakurai counts characters
on average" doesn't count. It doesn't matter what you "feel"). But until then, the argument is illogical, and it can't be accepted. Oh, and this isn't a weight-loss show... I don't know why you even bothered to bring that up...
I understand that you might think it makes more sense for Shy Guy to be a part of the Yoshi series, but honestly, it doesn't matter what you think. It also doesn't matter what you think Sakurai thinks, or what you think Sakurai's developers thoughts might make him think (confused?). What matters is what Sakurai has told us and shown us... nothing more. Right now, this isn't you vs. me... it's you vs. Sakurai. Think about it.