The Enemies of the Waa, A Match-up thread,A guide on how to beat the other fighters with Wario

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Wario has lots of good moves,but what should he do when going up against certain fighters, the same strategy won't work against all fighters, here you'll find a guide on how to beat certain characters as Wario, The threat level of the character is also provided, based on how hard it is to beat the character as Wario. I play against level 9 cpus, since it is the quickest way to get the data, remember that human players may play better or worse than level 9 cpus.You are welcome to contribute to this guide.
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OBEY WARIO,DESTROY MARIO!!!!!!!! Mario is quick and agile and hard to land a hit on. You really need to be careful with this guy. His super jump punch can damage you if you're edge guarding. This jerk can also recover very easily with the use of his cape, plus he can easily grab attack you. There's a reason Wario hates this guy. Threat level 10

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It sucks to be Weegee, Luigi is slower than Mario and easier to land a hit on. The best strategy is to get him off the ledge where it's easier to track him. Rushing head on isn't as good. His side smash and special attacks can do some damage and catch you off guard. Green missile and Luigi cyclone can catch you off guard at times so be careful. His super jump punch can deal lots of knockback, and his fireballs can rack up damage if you're not careful. Also watch out for his kick taunt which can plummet you to your doom at edges and catch you off guard at times. He's much easier than Mario and more predictable,but be careful of some of his stronger attacks and don't get too careless. Threat level 7

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She's the obnoxious lover of Mario and also a real annoyance in a fight. Peach's strength is her hover ability, her air attack is powerful and she can also get KOs by knocking you off the stage by hovering, the hover attack can knock you off the bike so don't use that, and Toad must really hate Wario, since he can counter Wario's bike by barfing green air. So how do you beat Peach? Simple, you grab her. Grab attack her off the ledge and into a smash attack, when ever she tries to get back on stage, she'll land right into another grab. You can even land an up air on her once and a while, though its not recommended unless Peach has high damage. Try to land an easy waft on her if you get the chance. Threat level 5

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He's Koopa koopa king of the cartoons,but no match for Wario, while he may have gotten a huge buff from brawl, Wario can still pummel him pretty easily. Bowser doesn't flinch to weak attacks, good thing Wario has hard hitting strong attacks. Wario can easily cancel some of Bowser's moves like his f smash. He's a big target and easy to land a hit on, plus he's vulnerable to the old f smash at the ledge. Be careful of his up smash when coming down or performing a down air. Don't use the bike too much since Bowser can easily smash it. The only move you have to worry about is Bowser's side b. He's pretty easy to beat despite his buffs. Threat level 3

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He's not that hard to beat, while extremely annoying you simply need to dash attack and run him over with the bike, and even grab attack him, the hard part is getting this guy to stand still. Be careful of his egg lay near edges and be alert for his egg throw, it can knock you off the bike,but you can eat it, Yoshi egg is a rare delicacy. Try not to get in a spot where Yoshi can down air you to your doom. Threat level 4.

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This one is tricky, If you've watched the tournament footage of Wario vs Rosalina, you probably know what some of the problems are, but if you didn't here's the scoop. Rosalina has some high priority attacks, plus its harder for Wario to get in and land a hit if the opponent is skilled. Plus you've also got to watch out for Luma. Luma can take some hits for Rosalina and also aid in some attacks, If the level 9 cpu gave me some trouble, and the level 9 cpu doesn't fully utilize Luma, imagine how tough it'll be to take on a skilled Rosalina player like Bill Trinen. You've got to be careful with this one. Try to get in and land some attacks, Rosalina is pretty light, try and get Luma and Rosalina separated so you can focus your attacks on Rosalina,but be careful as to not fall victim to a Rosalina to Luma combo. The Luma launch can destroy the bike and send you flying so be careful. Threat level 10.

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This guy is really easy to grab, just grab attack to rack up damage, then land a smash attack. Be careful of his f smash since it can deal lots of damage, just grab attack him alot and he shouldn't be too much trouble. Threat level 5

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What's this its Wario's evil twin? This is a mirror match, so you should know what attacks your opponent will use and how to doge them, due to experience, Who's the better Wario? Threat level Mirror

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Game and Watch is good at racking up damage, not so great at KOing. Game and Watch will quickly rack up damage on you. The best way to get him is to attack him while he vulnerable, which is mainly when he performs chef. Watch out for the judge attack too, it can sometimes KO you. Don't let him KO you, KO him instead. Threat level 7.

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Its DK Donkey Kong and he's the first member of the DK crew, to have a Rotten Day! DK may have some power and speed,but Wario is faster and can disrupt some of DK's moves, he's easy to up b combo with the corkscrew. His recovery can out prioritize some of Wario's moves so be careful, overall his coconut gun isn't going to hurt Wario very much, looks like his dong won't be expanding. Threat level 4.

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Who knew you could beat the king of evil with a motorcycle, regardless don't underestimate Ganondorf, while it may be easy to land hits, grab attacks, and hits with the bike, Ganon can easily return the damage and then some. Watch out for his f smash, its very powerful and can easily KO you. Remember that Warlock punch has super armor, so shield, or grab Ganon to avoid getting hit, because that move could KO you, especially if he turns around and does it. Ganondorf's down air can also spike so be careful. His side b flame choke is one of his primary sources of combos, they'll lead into a down a attack, which can deal some knockback. If performed in the air, the flame choke can grab you and send you down to your doom, like Bowser's side b. Be careful when edge guarding against Ganondorf, if he's winning by a stock or two, he might sacrifice a stock, just to bring you down a stock or KO you with that move, he could also so it if he's tied with you since,you'll die before he does. Do be careful of his dark dive as well. You shouldn't have to worry too much about his grab attacks though. Your only hope is to hope that you aren't going against a good Ganondorf player. This isn't brawl, its smash bros 4 Wii U/3DS Ganondorf is here to win.Don't underestimate Ganondorf, they don't call him the king of evil for nothing. Threat level 10

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Oh hey Pitty Pat did Sakurai try and make you an op character? Well too bad, you're nothing against Wario. Wario can destroy this guy more than Skyworld. The only risks you have to worry about are his upperdash arm, which has high priority and super armor, his arrow knocking you off the bike, and him getting you off the ledge and trying to KO or spike with an air attack, though that's not likely to happen. Wario can easily land hits on Pit. Pit can easily recover, though he's really easy to land a hit on. Threat level 1

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Pretty Palutena is more of an annoyance than a threat to Wario. The only thing you really need to watch out for is her counter. Also be wary of her up smash, which shoots a pillar of light into the sky, simply air doge this. Auto reticle is really annoying, try to run through it into a dash attack or a grab attack. Did I mention that the easy way to beat Palutena is to simple grab attack her off the ledge. You can't counter a grab attack after all. Threat level 1

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Is that the hero king himself, no its just some royal loser who's about to have a rotten day. Marth's main strength is hitting you with the tip of his blade, he's gotten some nerfs, so he's easier to hit. Be wary of his counters. The bike can be useful for battling Marth. Threat level 5.

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We like Ike, We like to beat Ike. While Ike has alot of power, and can counter, he's slow and has a bad recovery, a good strategy is to knock him off the ledge then ram the bike into him. It may not KO him instantly, but it will prevent him from recovering, and therefor KOing himself. Just remember to jump off the bike if you hit or miss him. His up b can get if you if you're edge guarding, so be careful of that. Threat level 5.

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Time to tip the scales, in Wario's favor. This mage has alot of magic and can be very unpredictable, You can eat all the projectile magic. The biggest threat is... you guessed it, the Levin sword. It has lots of power, no wonder Robin always carries it around. Threat level 10.

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How can I smash you King Dedede? Dedede was my punching bag in brawl, also my punching bag in smash 4. I don't even have to try against this guy, slow, can knock gordos back at him. his gordos can knock you off the bike. Just don't get careless and fall for his KO moves like jet hammer. He's only a threat if you're playing against some one really good with Dedede. Threat level 1.

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This guy is a bit harder, the difficulty all depends on how skilled your opponent is. Little Mac's counter can be deadly in some cases so be careful. The goal is to get him off the stage, since his recoveries are bad. Be careful, Little Mac's KO meter builds up faster if he takes damage. When his KO meter is full get on the bike, since it will shield you from the one hit KO,but be careful, if Mac grabs you, he can one hit KO you due to Wario's grab release. Some of Wario's attacks can stop Mac's standard b, but don't rush in, since he could just do a quick attack instead of charging it. If you're recovering, watch out for his side smash, its one of the ways Mac can KO you.Be careful of his power on the ground and get him off the ledge. Threat level 7.

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This guy I trash for breakfast, Fox isn't really a big threat to Wario, since his laser doesn't deal knockback or stun, just run through it and into a dash attack, Fox won't be able to dodge quick enough if he's spamming the laser. His fire fox won't destroy the bike so feel free to bike spam Fox. Fox is easy to send flying, I usually dash attack him before unleashing a f smash and send Fox flying. He's really easy to beat. His speed is the only major threat to you, Don't go in too overconfident though.Threat level 1.

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Unlike Fox, Falco's lasers do stun you, so he's not as easy to beat as Fox. The lasers can't knock you off your bike so use this to your advantage. Falco fights similarly to Fox so apply some of the same strategies you used for Fox here. He's not as fast as Fox,but does have some more powerful moves.
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pika pika I hate you, Pikachu is an annoying speedy little electric rodent, He likes to spam alot of his moves like thunder, electric ball, and can recover with quick attack. Use the bike and some of Wario's faster attacks, then punish with a smash attack when you get the chance. Threat level 5.

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He can easily be avoided and you can gobble up his aura, but he's strongest at high percents, watch out for him when he's powered up ans get on the bike. Threat level 5

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One thing I like to do against Charizard is attack him with up b. He's vulnerable to be comboed by Wario's up b so remember that well, watch out for his fire attack, and up smash. The bike is not very effective against him so rack up the damage with up b instead of side b. Be careful when edge guarding against him, his up b is great for getting back on stage, and dealing damage to you. Threat level 5.

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You know he's called the annoying dog for a reason, though Wario's got the better laugh. Duck Hunt isn't very powerful, none the less be careful of his smash attacks. His side b can rack up some damage if your opponent knows how to properly use it. The bike is really good to use against him. He'll try and doge some attacks with his up b so use it against him. The best way to react to this is to land a fully charged Wario Waft on him while he does this. Be careful of the can though you can use it against him by making it explode on you and him if he summons it right next to you. Pretty easy to beat. Threat level 3

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How do you beat ROB? Just attack him before he can attack you. ROB is very bulky so get in there and land a dash attack,side a, and a f smash. ROB's gyromite can knock you off the bike so be cautious when using the bike. ROB's air attacks are powerful, and his down air can spike, so be careful when getting into air fights with ROB. Don't grab attack him too much since he can doge them easily. Watch out for his side b, since its one of his ways to rack up some damage. Remember to eat or doge his charge beam if he uses it at full charge. Some of his grab attacks are powerful so try not to let him grab you. As long as you attack first and quick, ROB shouldn't be too much of a problem. Threat level 4

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PK dance? Remeber when Wario turned Ness into a trophy back in Subspace? Good times, now Ness thinks that he can beat you,but he cant. Wario can eat his pk thunder. He can be pretty easy to ko if you launch him off the stage far enough. Watch out for his powerful f smash. Also be wary of his air attacks, since they can out prioritize some of your moves. He'll grab you alot so be careful of that. Run in for a hit when he does PK flash, just be careful not to get caught in the blast. Threat level 4

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Falcon Lunch! That's what Falcon is to Wario. You can eat him when he attempts to raptor boost, falcon kick, or even during his smash attacks. He's easy to doge for someone like Wario, just don't fall into the falcon punch or knee of justice, watch out for his spike. Also the update made it so Falcon's raptor boost can KO you at percents as low as 78. I know weird, Thus far I've only noticed it with level 9 cpus. Threat level 4

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Villager's main thing is taking your projectiles, Wario doesn't have any projectiles, however Villager can pocket Wario's bike when he's not riding it, so be careful. I usually recommend not using the bike at all against this guy, since he's pretty easy to beat. Just get up close and unleash some strong attacks, doge the bowling ball and keep an eye on the tree. You can sometimes dash attack through the lloid rocket too. When ever Villager is in a special fall animation from either the lloid rocket or the balloons, smash attack him, he'll usually get KO'd. Threat level 2.

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Thank the 3DS or Sakurai that this guy can only use 3 pikmin at a time. The pikmin are Olimar's main source of racking up damage, shake the pikmin off as quickly as possible. The bike can be useful for attacking Olimar,but make sure you don't have any pikmin on you while on the bike. Olimar is pretty easy to launch,but be cautious approaching him if you've got high damage. Back trowing him off a ledge then following up with an f smash if possible, is a good way to KO him. Threat level 3.

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Its fit vs fat, and fat's winning. Wii fit trainer is more annoying than threatening. Sun salutation can be flat out annoying if she spams it right next you, eat the sun. When ever she does deep breathing, rush in for an attack. The most annoying move she's got however is her recovery, It deals 1% damage and minor
knock back,but out prioritizes some of your moves. In the end fat beats fit on a motor bike Wahahahaha!
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It's female Marth? Oh its Lucina. She fights just like Marth, escept for the fact that she deals more damage with her whole sword than the tip. That means depending on your opponent, she's either easier or harder than Marth. Threat level 5.

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I am Dr. Mario and I am saving lives, but he'll need the saving after taking a good whiff of a Wario waft. Dr. Mario is stronger and slower than Mario, and alot easier to hit and KO. Just watch out for his special attacks like the mega vitamin, which can knock you off your bike and rack up damage. Don't let his doctor cape or doctor tornado catch you off guard either. His super jump punch is powerful and just like Mario's can damage you if you're edge guarding and can even out prioritize some attacks, however its also his greatest weakness as it has poor recovery ability, so try and knock the doc off the ledge. He's much easier than Mario. Threat level 5

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Oh look its a clone of Pit, oooooo spoiler alert. This guy is a clone of Pit and screams Sakurai bias. The only differences is he uses an electrodash arm which can shock you, and hits a little harder. Just use the same strategy you used for Pit against this guy. Why wasn't this guy a palette swap? Oh well just another easy match and another one of Sakurai's babies to bash. Threat level 1 Take that Sakurai bias.

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Fancy meeting you here, Monado boy! Shulk is a very technical character, meaning the difficulty is all based on the skill of the opponent using him. Shulk can't counter the bike though so use that to rack up some damage, though its much easier to do so with a dash attack. Watch out for his smash attacks, they have long range. Also keep an eye on his monado arts, if he's got red, smash, try and avoid him, since red deals more knockback. He's not easy to grab so don't grab attack him a lot. Just watch the monado arts and his counter and you should be able to beat him easily, Now it's Wario Time Wahahah. Threat level 4

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Wakakaka Waaa. It's Pac-Man! He's not to hard to beat, He's rather slow and clunky and its pretty easy to land a hit, plus you can eat his bonus fruit. Don't use the bike to much since his bonus fruit will knock you off the bike, and his side b can destroy the bike. The fire hydrant might be a little annoying,but if your lucky you can knock it into Pac-Man and KO him. Threat level 2

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Mega Man is here,and he's highly projectile based, which means you can eat his projectiles. Though you should be careful of his non projectile attacks. His up smash can stop your down air so be careful if you're in the air. If you get git with the crash bomber, try and stick it on Mega Man. Mega Man's down smash leaves him wide open for an attack so use it wisely. The metal blade can knock you off the bike so be careful. Use your grab attacks to rack up damage. He's not that hard to beat,but don't underestimate him.
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Sonic speed won't save you now Sonic! Sonic is undoubtedly faster than Wario,but not stronger, the strategy here is to land all the powerful hits on Sonic. Use some of Wario's faster attacks, and also grab attack Sonic to rack up damage. Don't use the bike too much since Sonic will have no trouble knocking you off it. Threat level 1

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Miis aren't allowed in online with anyone mode, so the threat level is 0,but tournaments may allow them, so here's the scoop. brawler can be hard or easy depending on who's using them. Wario can gobble up the shot put, so remember that. It's recovery is like Ike's so if it's too far from the stage, it KO's itself, use this to your advantage. Threat level 5.

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Miis aren't allowed in online with anyone mode, so the threat level is 0,but tournaments may allow them, so here's the scoop. Sword's gales strike can destroy the bike, but you can eat it. Be wary of the counter. It's recovery is like Ike's so if it's too far from the stage, it KO's itself, use this to your advantage. Threat level 5

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Miis aren't allowed in online with anyone mode, so the threat level is 0,but tournaments may allow them, so here's the scoop. Gunner is the best of the Miis. Its smash attacks can be deadly, but some leave gunner wide open. Be careful of Gunner's smash attacks and some of it's special attacks.Gunner can be a little harder than the other two Miis. Threat level 5.

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The old Subspace battle will happen again, in June 2015

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OBEY WARIO,DESTROY MARIO!!!!!!!! Mario is quick and agile and hard to land a hit on. You really need to be careful with this guy. His super jump punch can damage you if you're edge guarding. This jerk can also recover very easily with the use of his cape, plus he can easily grab attack you. There's a reason Wario hates this guy. Threat level 10

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It sucks to be Weegee, Luigi is slower than Mario and easier to land a hit on. The best strategy is to get him off the ledge where it's easier to track him. Rushing head on isn't as good. His side smash and special attacks can do some damage and catch you off guard. Green missile and Luigi cyclone can catch you off guard at times so be careful. His super jump punch can deal lots of knockback, and his fireballs can rack up damage if you're not careful. Also watch out for his kick taunt which can plummet you to your doom at edges and catch you off guard at times. He's much easier than Mario and more predictable,but be careful of some of his stronger attacks and don't get too careless. Threat level 7

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She's the obnoxious lover of Mario and also a real annoyance in a fight. Peach's strength is her hover ability, her air attack is powerful and she can also get KOs by knocking you off the stage by hovering, the hover attack can knock you off the bike so don't use that, and Toad must really hate Wario, since he can counter Wario's bike by barfing green air. So how do you beat Peach? Simple, you grab her. Grab attack her off the ledge and into a smash attack, when ever she tries to get back on stage, she'll land right into another grab. You can even land an up air on her once and a while, though its not recommended unless Peach has high damage. Try to land an easy waft on her if you get the chance. Threat level 5

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He's Koopa koopa king of the cartoons,but no match for Wario, while he may have gotten a huge buff from brawl, Wario can still pummel him pretty easily. Bowser doesn't flinch to weak attacks, good thing Wario has hard hitting strong attacks. Wario can easily cancel some of Bowser's moves like his f smash. He's a big target and easy to land a hit on, plus he's vulnerable to the old f smash at the ledge. Be careful of his up smash when coming down or performing a down air. Don't use the bike too much since Bowser can easily smash it. The only move you have to worry about is Bowser's side b. He's pretty easy to beat despite his buffs. Threat level 3

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He's not that hard to beat, while extremely annoying you simply need to dash attack and run him over with the bike, and even grab attack him, the hard part is getting this guy to stand still. Be careful of his egg lay near edges and be alert for his egg throw, it can knock you off the bike,but you can eat it, Yoshi egg is a rare delicacy. Try not to get in a spot where Yoshi can down air you to your doom. Threat level 4.

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This one is tricky, If you've watched the tournament footage of Wario vs Rosalina, you probably know what some of the problems are, but if you didn't here's the scoop. Rosalina has some high priority attacks, plus its harder for Wario to get in and land a hit if the opponent is skilled. Plus you've also got to watch out for Luma. Luma can take some hits for Rosalina and also aid in some attacks, If the level 9 cpu gave me some trouble, and the level 9 cpu doesn't fully utilize Luma, imagine how tough it'll be to take on a skilled Rosalina player like Bill Trinen. You've got to be careful with this one. Try to get in and land some attacks, Rosalina is pretty light, try and get Luma and Rosalina separated so you can focus your attacks on Rosalina,but be careful as to not fall victim to a Rosalina to Luma combo. The Luma launch can destroy the bike and send you flying so be careful. Threat level 10.

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This guy is really easy to grab, just grab attack to rack up damage, then land a smash attack. Be careful of his f smash since it can deal lots of damage, just grab attack him alot and he shouldn't be too much trouble. Threat level 5

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What's this its Wario's evil twin? This is a mirror match, so you should know what attacks your opponent will use and how to doge them, due to experience, Who's the better Wario? Threat level Mirror

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Game and Watch is good at racking up damage, not so great at KOing. Game and Watch will quickly rack up damage on you. The best way to get him is to attack him while he vulnerable, which is mainly when he performs chef. Watch out for the judge attack too, it can sometimes KO you. Don't let him KO you, KO him instead. Threat level 7.

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Its DK Donkey Kong and he's the first member of the DK crew, to have a Rotten Day! DK may have some power and speed,but Wario is faster and can disrupt some of DK's moves, he's easy to up b combo with the corkscrew. His recovery can out prioritize some of Wario's moves so be careful, overall his coconut gun isn't going to hurt Wario very much, looks like his dong won't be expanding. Threat level 4.

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Who knew you could beat the king of evil with a motorcycle, regardless don't underestimate Ganondorf, while it may be easy to land hits, grab attacks, and hits with the bike, Ganon can easily return the damage and then some. Watch out for his f smash, its very powerful and can easily KO you. Remember that Warlock punch has super armor, so shield, or grab Ganon to avoid getting hit, because that move could KO you, especially if he turns around and does it. Ganondorf's down air can also spike so be careful. His side b flame choke is one of his primary sources of combos, they'll lead into a down a attack, which can deal some knockback. If performed in the air, the flame choke can grab you and send you down to your doom, like Bowser's side b. Be careful when edge guarding against Ganondorf, if he's winning by a stock or two, he might sacrifice a stock, just to bring you down a stock or KO you with that move, he could also so it if he's tied with you since,you'll die before he does. Do be careful of his dark dive as well. You shouldn't have to worry too much about his grab attacks though. Your only hope is to hope that you aren't going against a good Ganondorf player. This isn't brawl, its smash bros 4 Wii U/3DS Ganondorf is here to win.Don't underestimate Ganondorf, they don't call him the king of evil for nothing. Threat level 10

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Oh hey Pitty Pat did Sakurai try and make you an op character? Well too bad, you're nothing against Wario. Wario can destroy this guy more than Skyworld. The only risks you have to worry about are his upperdash arm, which has high priority and super armor, his arrow knocking you off the bike, and him getting you off the ledge and trying to KO or spike with an air attack, though that's not likely to happen. Wario can easily land hits on Pit. Pit can easily recover, though he's really easy to land a hit on. Threat level 1

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Pretty Palutena is more of an annoyance than a threat to Wario. The only thing you really need to watch out for is her counter. Also be wary of her up smash, which shoots a pillar of light into the sky, simply air doge this. Auto reticle is really annoying, try to run through it into a dash attack or a grab attack. Did I mention that the easy way to beat Palutena is to simple grab attack her off the ledge. You can't counter a grab attack after all. Threat level 1

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Is that the hero king himself, no its just some royal loser who's about to have a rotten day. Marth's main strength is hitting you with the tip of his blade, he's gotten some nerfs, so he's easier to hit. Be wary of his counters. The bike can be useful for battling Marth. Threat level 5.

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We like Ike, We like to beat Ike. While Ike has alot of power, and can counter, he's slow and has a bad recovery, a good strategy is to knock him off the ledge then ram the bike into him. It may not KO him instantly, but it will prevent him from recovering, and therefor KOing himself. Just remember to jump off the bike if you hit or miss him. His up b can get if you if you're edge guarding, so be careful of that. Threat level 5.

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Time to tip the scales, in Wario's favor. This mage has alot of magic and can be very unpredictable, You can eat all the projectile magic. The biggest threat is... you guessed it, the Levin sword. It has lots of power, no wonder Robin always carries it around. Threat level 10.

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How can I smash you King Dedede? Dedede was my punching bag in brawl, also my punching bag in smash 4. I don't even have to try against this guy, slow, can knock gordos back at him. his gordos can knock you off the bike. Just don't get careless and fall for his KO moves like jet hammer. He's only a threat if you're playing against some one really good with Dedede. Threat level 1.

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This guy is a bit harder, the difficulty all depends on how skilled your opponent is. Little Mac's counter can be deadly in some cases so be careful. The goal is to get him off the stage, since his recoveries are bad. Be careful, Little Mac's KO meter builds up faster if he takes damage. When his KO meter is full get on the bike, since it will shield you from the one hit KO,but be careful, if Mac grabs you, he can one hit KO you due to Wario's grab release. Some of Wario's attacks can stop Mac's standard b, but don't rush in, since he could just do a quick attack instead of charging it. If you're recovering, watch out for his side smash, its one of the ways Mac can KO you.Be careful of his power on the ground and get him off the ledge. Threat level 7.

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This guy I trash for breakfast, Fox isn't really a big threat to Wario, since his laser doesn't deal knockback or stun, just run through it and into a dash attack, Fox won't be able to dodge quick enough if he's spamming the laser. His fire fox won't destroy the bike so feel free to bike spam Fox. Fox is easy to send flying, I usually dash attack him before unleashing a f smash and send Fox flying. He's really easy to beat. His speed is the only major threat to you, Don't go in too overconfident though.Threat level 1.

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Unlike Fox, Falco's lasers do stun you, so he's not as easy to beat as Fox. The lasers can't knock you off your bike so use this to your advantage. Falco fights similarly to Fox so apply some of the same strategies you used for Fox here. He's not as fast as Fox,but does have some more powerful moves.
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pika pika I hate you, Pikachu is an annoying speedy little electric rodent, He likes to spam alot of his moves like thunder, electric ball, and can recover with quick attack. Use the bike and some of Wario's faster attacks, then punish with a smash attack when you get the chance. Threat level 5.

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He can easily be avoided and you can gobble up his aura, but he's strongest at high percents, watch out for him when he's powered up ans get on the bike. Threat level 5

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One thing I like to do against Charizard is attack him with up b. He's vulnerable to be comboed by Wario's up b so remember that well, watch out for his fire attack, and up smash. The bike is not very effective against him so rack up the damage with up b instead of side b. Be careful when edge guarding against him, his up b is great for getting back on stage, and dealing damage to you. Threat level 5.

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You know he's called the annoying dog for a reason, though Wario's got the better laugh. Duck Hunt isn't very powerful, none the less be careful of his smash attacks. His side b can rack up some damage if your opponent knows how to properly use it. The bike is really good to use against him. He'll try and doge some attacks with his up b so use it against him. The best way to react to this is to land a fully charged Wario Waft on him while he does this. Be careful of the can though you can use it against him by making it explode on you and him if he summons it right next to you. Pretty easy to beat. Threat level 3

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How do you beat ROB? Just attack him before he can attack you. ROB is very bulky so get in there and land a dash attack,side a, and a f smash. ROB's gyromite can knock you off the bike so be cautious when using the bike. ROB's air attacks are powerful, and his down air can spike, so be careful when getting into air fights with ROB. Don't grab attack him too much since he can doge them easily. Watch out for his side b, since its one of his ways to rack up some damage. Remember to eat or doge his charge beam if he uses it at full charge. Some of his grab attacks are powerful so try not to let him grab you. As long as you attack first and quick, ROB shouldn't be too much of a problem. Threat level 4

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PK dance? Remeber when Wario turned Ness into a trophy back in Subspace? Good times, now Ness thinks that he can beat you,but he cant. Wario can eat his pk thunder. He can be pretty easy to ko if you launch him off the stage far enough. Watch out for his powerful f smash. Also be wary of his air attacks, since they can out prioritize some of your moves. He'll grab you alot so be careful of that. Run in for a hit when he does PK flash, just be careful not to get caught in the blast. Threat level 4

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Falcon Lunch! That's what Falcon is to Wario. You can eat him when he attempts to raptor boost, falcon kick, or even during his smash attacks. He's easy to doge for someone like Wario, just don't fall into the falcon punch or knee of justice, watch out for his spike. Also the update made it so Falcon's raptor boost can KO you at percents as low as 78. I know weird, Thus far I've only noticed it with level 9 cpus. Threat level 4

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Villager's main thing is taking your projectiles, Wario doesn't have any projectiles, however Villager can pocket Wario's bike when he's not riding it, so be careful. I usually recommend not using the bike at all against this guy, since he's pretty easy to beat. Just get up close and unleash some strong attacks, doge the bowling ball and keep an eye on the tree. You can sometimes dash attack through the lloid rocket too. When ever Villager is in a special fall animation from either the lloid rocket or the balloons, smash attack him, he'll usually get KO'd. Threat level 2.

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Thank the 3DS or Sakurai that this guy can only use 3 pikmin at a time. The pikmin are Olimar's main source of racking up damage, shake the pikmin off as quickly as possible. The bike can be useful for attacking Olimar,but make sure you don't have any pikmin on you while on the bike. Olimar is pretty easy to launch,but be cautious approaching him if you've got high damage. Back trowing him off a ledge then following up with an f smash if possible, is a good way to KO him. Threat level 3.

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Its fit vs fat, and fat's winning. Wii fit trainer is more annoying than threatening. Sun salutation can be flat out annoying if she spams it right next you, eat the sun. When ever she does deep breathing, rush in for an attack. The most annoying move she's got however is her recovery, It deals 1% damage and minor
knock back,but out prioritizes some of your moves. In the end fat beats fit on a motor bike Wahahahaha!
Threat level 3.

Spoiler

It's female Marth? Oh its Lucina. She fights just like Marth, escept for the fact that she deals more damage with her whole sword than the tip. That means depending on your opponent, she's either easier or harder than Marth. Threat level 5.

Spoiler

I am Dr. Mario and I am saving lives, but he'll need the saving after taking a good whiff of a Wario waft. Dr. Mario is stronger and slower than Mario, and alot easier to hit and KO. Just watch out for his special attacks like the mega vitamin, which can knock you off your bike and rack up damage. Don't let his doctor cape or doctor tornado catch you off guard either. His super jump punch is powerful and just like Mario's can damage you if you're edge guarding and can even out prioritize some attacks, however its also his greatest weakness as it has poor recovery ability, so try and knock the doc off the ledge. He's much easier than Mario. Threat level 5

Spoiler

Oh look its a clone of Pit, oooooo spoiler alert. This guy is a clone of Pit and screams Sakurai bias. The only differences is he uses an electrodash arm which can shock you, and hits a little harder. Just use the same strategy you used for Pit against this guy. Why wasn't this guy a palette swap? Oh well just another easy match and another one of Sakurai's babies to bash. Threat level 1 Take that Sakurai bias.

Spoiler

Fancy meeting you here, Monado boy! Shulk is a very technical character, meaning the difficulty is all based on the skill of the opponent using him. Shulk can't counter the bike though so use that to rack up some damage, though its much easier to do so with a dash attack. Watch out for his smash attacks, they have long range. Also keep an eye on his monado arts, if he's got red, smash, try and avoid him, since red deals more knockback. He's not easy to grab so don't grab attack him a lot. Just watch the monado arts and his counter and you should be able to beat him easily, Now it's Wario Time Wahahah. Threat level 4

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Wakakaka Waaa. It's Pac-Man! He's not to hard to beat, He's rather slow and clunky and its pretty easy to land a hit, plus you can eat his bonus fruit. Don't use the bike to much since his bonus fruit will knock you off the bike, and his side b can destroy the bike. The fire hydrant might be a little annoying,but if your lucky you can knock it into Pac-Man and KO him. Threat level 3

Spoiler

Mega Man is here,and he's highly projectile based, which means you can eat his projectiles. Though you should be careful of his non projectile attacks. His up smash can stop your down air so be careful if you're in the air. If you get git with the crash bomber, try and stick it on Mega Man. Mega Man's down smash leaves him wide open for an attack so use it wisely. The metal blade can knock you off the bike so be careful. Use your grab attacks to rack up damage. He's not that hard to beat,but don't underestimate him.
Threat level 5

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Sonic speed won't save you now Sonic! Sonic is undoubtedly faster than Wario,but not stronger, the strategy here is to land all the powerful hits on Sonic. Use some of Wario's faster attacks, and also grab attack Sonic to rack up damage. Don't use the bike too much since Sonic will have no trouble knocking you off it. Threat level 2

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Miis aren't allowed in online with anyone mode, so the threat level is 0,but tournaments may allow them, so here's the scoop. brawler can be hard or easy depending on who's using them. Wario can gobble up the shot put, so remember that. It's recovery is like Ike's so if it's too far from the stage, it KO's itself, use this to your advantage. Threat level 5.

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Miis aren't allowed in online with anyone mode, so the threat level is 0,but tournaments may allow them, so here's the scoop. Sword's gales strike can destroy the bike, but you can eat it. Be wary of the counter. It's recovery is like Ike's so if it's too far from the stage, it KO's itself, use this to your advantage. Threat level 5

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Miis aren't allowed in online with anyone mode, so the threat level is 0,but tournaments may allow them, so here's the scoop. Gunner is the best of the Miis. Its smash attacks can be deadly, but some leave gunner wide open. Be careful of Gunner's smash attacks and some of it's special attacks.Gunner can be a little harder than the other two Miis. Threat level 5.

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Mewtwo will be an enemy of the waa in spring 2015

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The old Subspace battle will happen again, in June 2015

Matchup for the Day
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Matchup for the day Hall of Fame.

 

[Ultimastrike]

I think this warrants a sticky here since this sounds like a Match-up Thread.

 

[Sari]

I was waiting for someone to make a guide like this. I'd love to help out.

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The best fighter to use Wario's chomp against. Wario can eat just about all of MM's projectiles* including his forward smash, leaf shield, and crash bomber (crash bomber won't blow up in your belly). Eating the metal blade also gives you health. MM's mega buster (lemon things) don't have much knockback, so feel free to melee him. However, MM's down tilt and dash attack can be pretty annoying, so you may want to use your bike (it's also possible to chomp MM while he's doing his down tilt).
Threat level: 4

*Not 100% sure about MM's up aerial though I'm pretty sure he can't

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Spoiler

Villager can pocket Wario's bike so be very careful when using it. If they pocket it, you won't be able to use it until they have it knocked out of them or they automatically lose it after about 15 seconds (though they can still take it out and pocket it to reset the timer). Get rid of your bike quickly by either riding it off stage or eating it. Wario can't eat Villager's tree, though he can eat the wood chip that sometimes falls out (he'll also gain health) as well as the Lloid rocket (not while he's riding it though), slingshot, and the flower pot from his dash attack. Villager is defenseless while using their up-special so try and knock them off the ledge so that they'll use it. If you follow these instructions you shouldn't have that much trouble since Villager is one of the more weaker characters.

Threat level: 5

 

[Ultimastrike]

So, I just went on this little MU:

vs.

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Robin's projectiles are going to give Wario a tough time getting in, especially with that Levin Sword around. Wario's FAir zoning might help in this case, but be aware that Arcfire is dangerous when you're riding your bike. Thoron is a definite danger when it comes to Robin, due to its high Range. Wario CANNOT EAT THORON. It's too big for his appetite(according to Reddit's list). Nosferatu is just a mindgame grab, and it's also an aerial grab that can be a problem. Aside from that, eating his Elthunders will give Wario a small amount of time to get in. If Robin tries to get you off, respond with FAir, BAir, or DAir(if he's below you, but chances are DAir won't go through due to Levin's disjoint unless you're lucky). Just be careful when you're using Corkscrew low because the Elwind Spike will kill Wario regardless of whether he uses his bike or not afterwards.

Threat Level: 8

 

[Sari]

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An agile fighter that is no match for Wario. Wario can eat Greninja's water shuriken (neutral B) as well as the substitute log/doll (which gives him health). If Wario holds his mouth open while Greninja uses shadow sneak near him (while facing the same direction), Greninja will always land in his mouth before performing the attack. Dodging the substitute counter is possible and since the log/doll that spawns doesn't do anything it's pretty much free health for Wario. Greninja's hydro pump (up B) can lead you off the edge a bit, but Wario can recover easily via his bike. For his neutral attacks, Greninja is not that strong, but is very quick, so I suggest using your bike and dash attack so you don't become trapped in one of his small combos. He's also good to juggle around a bit since his down aerial sends him straight downwards which in turn leaves him to be very vulnerable.

Threat level: 3

 

[Ultimastrike]

Ok guys! Let's see how many enemies the WAA can take. 1...2...3...oh wait. He can eat all the Toon Links!

vs.

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Welp, look at this little guy! He's just like Link. The Waa will crush him pretty easily, since his arrows are very telegraphed along with his boomerang. Good news for the Waa, though, HE EATS THAT STUFF FOR BREAKFAST. Only problem is he's small, so FAir won't have much effect unless you land it near the ground, so go with the Short Hop DAir if you're gutsy. The bike can knock him down guaranteed, provided he doesn't use the Hero's Spin. The Hero's Spin is probably going to be Toon Link's only threat to the Waa on the ground, but in the air? Oh boy. The Waa might need to be faster on the go. Toon Link's reach with his version of the Master Sword isn't great, but it can outrange the Waa with his FAir, NAir, and BAir. Just don't use DAir when he's in the air while you're above him, because it won't go through Toon Link's UAir. Toon Link's DAir, on the otherhand...Go Waa on him.

Threat Level: 3

 

[Ultimastrike]

Erm... vs.

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Waaaaa?! This guy's Monado outprioritizes every single one of Wario's attacks, excluding the fart's Super Armor. FAir Approaches can be heavily shut down, so he has to resort to his bike. What's more, Buster is pretty bad for Wario in general, despite the double-edge sword mechanic Shulk has with it. WHATEVER YOU DO. DO NOT RETREATING BAIR. This gives him a free Back Slash and something to kill with. Smash, of course, is stupidly bad for everyone in general at high %s. If he goes Shield, he'll be able to tank your damage pretty well. This is probably Wario's worst Match-up.

Threat Level: 10

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

Erm... vs.

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Waaaaa?! This guy's Monado outprioritizes every single one of Wario's attacks, excluding the fart's Super Armor. FAir Approaches can be heavily shut down, so he has to resort to his bike. What's more, Buster is pretty bad for Wario in general, despite the double-edge sword mechanic Shulk has with it. WHATEVER YOU DO. DO NOT RETREATING BAIR. This gives him a free Back Slash and something to kill with. Smash, of course, is stupidly bad for everyone in general at high %s. If he goes Shield, he'll be able to tank your damage pretty well. This is probably Wario's worst Match-up.

Threat Level: 10

Huh I've never encountered a Shulk like that. The Shulks I went against were all pretty easy,but yeah like I said before, it all depends on how skilled your opponent is.

 

[Ultimastrike]

Huh I've never encountered a Shulk like that. The Shulks I went against were all pretty easy,but yeah like I said before, it all depends on how skilled your opponent is.

It's pretty harsh for Wario considering he only has his chance with the bike. Every one of Shulk's air attacks prevent Wario from approaching and adds pressure. Bair is unreliable here unless he's offstage, but even then he can beat out Wario's SH DAir with his UTilt. It makes it near impossible to approach Shulk normally. Another thing is he can knock you off your bike with Nair.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

It's pretty harsh for Wario considering he only has his chance with the bike. Every one of Shulk's air attacks prevent Wario from approaching and adds pressure. Bair is unreliable here unless he's offstage, but even then he can beat out Wario's SH DAir with his UTilt. It makes it near impossible to approach Shulk normally. Another thing is he can knock you off your bike with Nair.

What Shulks are you playing against? level 9 cpus? really good human opponents? I want to know.

 

[Ultimastrike]

Also, a little critique: You don't really go too in-depth with characters, especially Ganondorf. Ganondorf is so easy for Wario he may as well just laugh at him.

Wario's Mouth >>>>> Ganon's Side B and Ganon's Down B(ground).

It makes it ridiculously hard for Ganon to approach appropriately, but you have advantage since you can even defeat his recovery with Bite.

 

[Ultimastrike]

I played a

What Shulks are you playing against? level 9 cpus? really good human opponents? I want to know.

i played against a human Shulk. Lv 9 Shulk is a laughing stock.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

Also, a little critique: You don't really go too in-depth with characters, especially Ganondorf. Ganondorf is so easy for Wario he may as well just laugh at him.

Wario's Mouth >>>>> Ganon's Side B and Ganon's Down B(ground).

It makes it ridiculously hard for Ganon to approach appropriately, but you have advantage since you can even defeat his recovery with Bite.

Huh never knew that, I sometimes end up getting KOd by Ganon's side smash, Ganon's also currently my second main, since Wolf isn't in yet, and I know how to really do damage with Ganon. Everyone's style is different, so its hard to truly pinpoint what strategy works best, I use level 9 data as a training ground, and since its really hard sometimes to encounter a certain opponet, who's also good with said character. I never knew you could use bite to stop wizard's foot.

I played a
i played against a human Shulk. Lv 9 Shulk is a laughing stock.

That explains everything. Unfortunately people still think Little Mac is strong so we have to wait for things to even out, maybe when a new tier list comes out.

 

[Rakurai]

On the subject of Little Mac, he doesn't feel like a terribly difficult match-up for Wario, despite the whole grab release thing.

Having a quick command grab really helps with breaking through the defensive playstyle good Mac players use, and the fact that he can't simply jump over the bike like other characters without putting himself at risk limits his options to defend against it.

It's also laughably easy to gimp him once you do get him off-stage. If you think he's going to try to counter, you can just bite him.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

On the subject of Little Mac, he doesn't feel like a terribly difficult match-up for Wario, despite the whole grab release thing.

Having a quick command grab really helps with breaking through the defensive playstyle good Mac players use, and the fact that he can't simply jump over the bike like other characters without putting himself at risk limits his options to defend against it.

It's also laughably easy to gimp him once you do get him off-stage. If you think he's going to try to counter, you can just bite him.

Well now it seems the update has solved the grab release problem. Wahahaha.

 

[JabbatheHutt]

This doesn't help at all. Nothing does no strategies, just telling us a few things like "Mario is hard to land a hit on."

Ok can you elaborate? Just beaches it's hard doesn't mean it's impossible

Edit: some of them do help but others like Mario don't. Good idea just needs better execution

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

This doesn't help at all. Nothing does no strategies, just telling us a few things like "Mario is hard to land a hit on."

Ok can you elaborate? Just beaches it's hard doesn't mean it's impossible

Edit: some of them do help but others like Mario don't. Good idea just needs better execution

Thanks, I actually wrote a more in depth analysis, but it got deleted. I may have to redo some of these now due to the update, this isn't a match up thread, more so a guide thread, though we really need a match up thread here too.

 

[Ultimastrike]

This feels more like a MU thread in particular since it goes into depth on how to fight other characters. But NEVER base it off Lv 9 CPUs. They're a horrible player at most. After a bit of testing things can get better. However...since Wectoring is gone, we no longer have a godly recovery. We need to rely on the bike now, and our approach on stage is pretty much the same. No buffs or nerfs aside from the glitch fix.

 

[PushDustIn]

Luigi is not a threat at all to Wario. Wario can bite Luigi out of his missile attack (Not sure if it still works in 1.0.4), and keep throwing him off the stage. His threat level should be downgraded to a 2, at most.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

This feels more like a MU thread in particular since it goes into depth on how to fight other characters. But NEVER base it off Lv 9 CPUs. They're a horrible player at most. After a bit of testing things can get better. However...since Wectoring is gone, we no longer have a godly recovery. We need to rely on the bike now, and our approach on stage is pretty much the same. No buffs or nerfs aside from the glitch fix.

I only use level 9s because its hard to find say a really good Shulk player or someone playing as dedede.

Luigi is not a threat at all to Wario. Wario can bite Luigi out of his missile attack (Not sure if it still works in 1.0.4), and keep throwing him off the stage. His threat level should be downgraded to a 2, at most.

Yeah I'm going to redo the threat level after the update.

 

[Firedemon0]

With Wario as a secondary, and Pac-man as a main. I think calling Pac-man slow and clunky is incorrect. Since he is bit uncommon of a matchup, I would say that the slow and clunky is caused by inexperience of who you were facing. He is very very fluid with aerial moves and can control the stage with hydrant/Trampoline. Wario is able to eat the bonus fruit without issue. He is also able to grab Pac-man out of various moves with Neutral B. On the ground, Pac-man is faster then Wario, but Wario is faster in the air. Pac-man is vunerable to dair. Pac-man is able to avoid the easy gimps that Wario can achieve because of his strong recovery options.

Wario has an even matchup, I would disagree with threat level of 2. If this is a scale of 10, I would put it between 4-6.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

Wahahaha! Some new enemies of the Waa have appeared check the first post. I might consider making this a matchup thread as well. So @ Wafty or who ever's in charge of this place, get the sticky note.

 

[Wafty]

I'm not in charg, sorry

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

I'm not in charg, sorry

Who is? Also those Miis were some of the tougher ones to get, since they're so random and custom, which might be why they're banned from online with anyone.

 

[ProdigyMX]

I don't know if this can be on any help, but I had some fights against and she seems like a nightmare to deal with.
Din's is spammable enough to both knocking off the bike and as a "ledge zoning" tool. She can also use it to just put you away from the ledge.
Farore's Wind is also a nice recovery tool and a good surprise tool. However, this is also a risky move from her: If she fails to hit you with Farore's (Or if she recovers into the stage instead of grabbing the ledge), you get a good opening for an F-Tilt, or even if you can do a hard read, an F-Smash. Maybe I'm just not experienced enough against Zelda, but she seem at least like a nice threat.

 

[Chaleb]

Good idea, but the descriptions are entirely lacking (you never really explain why you think the match-up is good or bad), and I believe you're straight up wrong on a lot of characters. Thinking Pit, Dedede, and Sonic are free match-ups for Wario is silly (you've probably never played a good one of them).

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

Good idea, but the descriptions are entirely lacking (you never really explain why you think the match-up is good or bad), and I believe you're straight up wrong on a lot of characters. Thinking Pit, Dedede, and Sonic are free match-ups for Wario is silly (you've probably never played a good one of them).

Yeah, I've underestimated Dedede, but never gone up against a good Sonic or Pit, The only time I have trouble with Pit or Sonic is when I'm playing as Ganondorf. I can handle them easily as Wario. Also do the Wii U level 9 cpus seem harder?

 

[Rakurai]

Wii U level 9s have much better AI then the 3DS ones do.

They abandoned some of the stupider tendencies that were carried over from the Brawl AI on the 3DS version, such never airdodging while off-stage and airdodging whenever they get hit. They're also a lot less predictable in how they go for punishes after shielding something, as the 3DS AI would almost always either grab or forward smash (Which could be baited and punished), while I've seen them use pretty much anything that actually works on the Wii U.

Back to the subject of Wario match-ups, I can't say I really agree with Zelda being a tough match-up for Wario. She has a slight range advantage against him, but she lacks speed on her attacks, especially in the air, which makes it difficult for her to escape his offensive pressure. Din's Fire isn't really that hard to avoid, either; Wario's high air speed helping a lot in that regard.

 

[PK Gaming]

Time to tip the scales, in Wario's favor. This mage has alot of magic and can be very unpredictable, You can eat all the projectile magic. The biggest threat is... you guessed it, the Levin sword. It has lots of power, no wonder Robin always carries it around. Threat level 10.

So much hyperbole in this post.

Robin isn't even close to being a level 10 threat for Wario. In fact, Wario has the advantage in this matchup. The reason why is because Robin happens to be very vulnerable to the Waft, which means Wario mains have a disproportionate amount of ways to KO Robin before Robin can KO Wario. The Waft can punish most of Robin's kit OR actively prevent them from being used at high %. Whiffed grabs are waft punishable due to his extreme lag on grabs. Blocked aerials at point blank range are Waft punishable, as are blocked jabs at point blank (so if your opponent isn't spacing their aerials, they're free). If Robin's using a tomb special and you're near him you'd better be using the waft. Robin outspaces Wario, sure, but he can't keep Wario out forever.

Other things to keep in mind:

-Don't be stupid and try to challenge Robin directly. Weave in and out of Levin Sword range and strike when you have the best opportunity, or go for the Bite Mixup.
-Wario can prevent Robin for easily charging Thunder by using the bike. Abuse this (make sure you jump off immediately)
-Robin is *FREE* offstage. His linear recovery means that he's vulnerable to just about anything Wario throws out (including the waft).
-If you want, you can air camp Robin to build the waft. There's nothing he can do to stop Wario from running away either. Literally nothing.
-Robin's best kill set up is ArcThunder into Uair. Pay extra attention to his Thunder charge at high %.

Basically, you're looking at a matchup where Robin racks up a bit more damage than Wario, but dies at ludicrously low % if he makes a mistake.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

So much hyperbole in this post.

Robin isn't even close to being a level 10 threat for Wario. In fact, Wario has the advantage in this matchup. The reason why is because Robin happens to be very vulnerable to the Waft, which means Wario mains have a disproportionate amount of ways to KO Robin before Robin can KO Wario. The Waft can punish most of Robin's kit OR actively prevent them from being used at high %. Whiffed grabs are waft punishable due to his extreme lag on grabs. Blocked aerials at point blank range are Waft punishable, as are blocked jabs at point blank (so if your opponent isn't spacing their aerials, they're free). If Robin's using a tomb special and you're near him you'd better be using the waft. Robin outspaces Wario, sure, but he can't keep Wario out forever.

Other things to keep in mind:

-Don't be stupid and try to challenge Robin directly. Weave in and out of Levin Sword range and strike when you have the best opportunity, or go for the Bite Mixup.
-Wario can prevent Robin for easily charging Thunder by using the bike. Abuse this (make sure you jump off immediately)
-Robin is *FREE* offstage. His linear recovery means that he's vulnerable to just about anything Wario throws out (including the waft).
-If you want, you can air camp Robin to build the waft. There's nothing he can do to stop Wario from running away either. Literally nothing.
-Robin's best kill set up is ArcThunder into Uair. Pay extra attention to his Thunder charge at high %.

Basically, you're looking at a matchup where Robin racks up a bit more damage than Wario, but dies at ludicrously low % if he makes a mistake.

OK someone seriously needs to make this a sticky note so we can make this a full out matchup thread, I'll even redo some of the matchups I did in the first post.

 

[WarioWaft]

I've played about 600 for glory singles matches with Waaaa by now.

Some of these match ups that are typed vary depending on the player.

Example: Pacman. I've had a harder time playing against a well skilled Pac-Man than a most players. Yesterday I probably played the best Pacman I've ever gone up against online. He was constantly moving around and using diversions. He used the fire hydrant and items to Pac's potential in addition to leaving the trampoline standing there making it a huge obstacle for me to get to Pac-Man (jumping the tramp and then avoiding fire hydrant + fruit throw).

 

[WarioWaft]

I think match ups on Wario vary depending on how you play with Wario.

Most Little Macs I can handle, but every now and then a I play a great defensive Little Mac who can do offense instantly.

 

[C4-]

We should try and revisit 1 match up every week and do an indepth match up discussion rather than a paragraph that dosent have much info, not that i dont appreciate the work that was put into this, i just feel we could improve upon what we have now being that there is alot of information missing, no character in smash 4 is legitimately bad so there should be alot more information for each matchup.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

We should try and revisit 1 match up every week and do an indepth match up discussion rather than a paragraph that dosent have much info, not that i dont appreciate the work that was put into this, i just feel we could improve upon what we have now being that there is alot of information missing, no character in smash 4 is legitimately bad so there should be alot more information for each matchup.

A sticky note on this thread would help since more people could notice it and participate.

's coming soon, better prepare, and lets make this the official matchup thread.

 

[Spinosaurus]

We already have a matchup thread that's more organized. This one is all over the place.

I don't really see any point in keeping it, actually.