SothE700k
Smash Lord
I say if you let the bucket get full, then you deserve to get blown to high hell by something powerful...
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The bucket, is it overpowered?
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ShadowPhoenix951
Smash Ace
The bucket is definitely not overpowered. It has a ridiculous amount of lag after absorbing a projectile, meaning you will get punished. Oil Panic is very powerful, but only if you're able to absorb three powerful projectiles. If not, then all the work of absorbing those projectiles is for naught.
The best use of the bucket is bucket braking, allowing G&W to live for up to 30-40% more damage (more than Snake most of the time). In that respect, it is overpowered, but even that comes with a downside, as it requires nearly perfect DI, and is absolutely useless if you're sent flying fast enough.
The best use of the bucket is bucket braking, allowing G&W to live for up to 30-40% more damage (more than Snake most of the time). In that respect, it is overpowered, but even that comes with a downside, as it requires nearly perfect DI, and is absolutely useless if you're sent flying fast enough.
7ACE7
Smash Apprentice
I think we can all agree that even though it is a very powerful move it has a lot of ending lag. And let's not kid ourselves here. The bucket is not useful against smart players.
illinialex24
Smash Hero
No I think we can all agree your wrong.
Short Answer: It is broken
Long Answer: It is broken if you use it. I hate bucket breaking. Against a Jigglypuff it allows him to live for god knows when with a good DI.
_Phloat_
Smash Champion
Jupz
Smash Master
with 3 pk cross isnt it the most powerful move in the game?? :o
ShadowPhoenix951
Smash Ace
It's actually PK Flash. But anyways, if your opponent gives you three fully charged PK Flashes, and doesn't even punish the ending lag on the bucket, they deserve to get hit by the most powerful move in the game. But the most powerful move in the game would actually be Ike countering this.
MyCurse4Life
Smash Ace
Nah, it equals and adds up the damage your opponent projectile give you, so its thier fault that they give you a move powerfull bucket.
TheFast
Smash Lord
I thought it was PK pulse. Bucket canceling is super gay but not broken. The actual move of the bucket like what MyCurse4Life said, its your opponents fault if you get it filled. So I dont think its broken.
Sachertorte
Smash Cadet
Yes, and no.
It depends on what you absorb. Fireballs will make it overpowered, along with other amazing projectiles like PK Flash.
But if you're absorbing lame things like Mario's fireballs or Fox's laser, then no. It'll suck.
A buckets power depends on the attack that's absorbed. It adds up the combined damage that you would have recieved, and then multiplys it by 3. A PK Flash does what? Let's assume... 30 damage. So three of those would be 90 damage, multiplied by 3.
You do the math. That's 270 damage. Yeah, that's overpowered.
Where as with Fox, 3 damage per laser, three lasers, total of 9 damage. Multiply that by 3, only 27 damage. Not so overpowered now, is it?
It depends on what you absorb. Fireballs will make it overpowered, along with other amazing projectiles like PK Flash.
But if you're absorbing lame things like Mario's fireballs or Fox's laser, then no. It'll suck.
A buckets power depends on the attack that's absorbed. It adds up the combined damage that you would have recieved, and then multiplys it by 3. A PK Flash does what? Let's assume... 30 damage. So three of those would be 90 damage, multiplied by 3.
You do the math. That's 270 damage. Yeah, that's overpowered.
Where as with Fox, 3 damage per laser, three lasers, total of 9 damage. Multiply that by 3, only 27 damage. Not so overpowered now, is it?
cutter
Smash Champion
NY thinks the bucket is overpowered with G&W/ZSS in teams, they're trying to ban it.
LMFAO!
LMFAO!
Yeah. Thats why bucket is broken in teams.
Noa.
Smash Master
Umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure that the bucket can only do up to ~60% damage. It has a limit to how much damage it can do. But, once it reaches that limit, it's a guaranteed KO move.
and Btw, this thread is really old, we should stop responding to it.
and Btw, this thread is really old, we should stop responding to it.
cemo
white walker
Yeah, the bucket caps at 60 damage you scrubs.
I'm sort of wondering if the bucket is effected by stale moves though?
editz~: This is a better question for the question and answer thread.
I'm sort of wondering if the bucket is effected by stale moves though?
editz~: This is a better question for the question and answer thread.
The damage caps at 63%, but the knockback is ridiculous enough.
AmazingXeno
Smash Cadet
Unlike Ike and Lucario's counters, G&W's bucket all depends on how powerful the energy attack use by that character is.
If your friend charged up din's fire all the way when you absorbed it, of course it's gunna kill at 0%.
But it has major lagg when used on the ground so it's good to use in the air when trying to stall or mindgame, still has a pretty good amount in the air as well.
I would also recommend(unless it's a really good player) to downgrab-->bucket.
Be care with great power comes great responsibility
If your friend charged up din's fire all the way when you absorbed it, of course it's gunna kill at 0%.
But it has major lagg when used on the ground so it's good to use in the air when trying to stall or mindgame, still has a pretty good amount in the air as well.
I would also recommend(unless it's a really good player) to downgrab-->bucket.
Be care with great power comes great responsibility
Bucket power !
this is known by everyone i think but game and watch bucket against ness and lucas makes me cry, and yet happy me and my friend were in doubles and i was lucas i pked thundered and my friend jumped caught the tail and ball of it instantly filling bucket, thats gotta be abit OP that gnw can do that
this is known by everyone i think but game and watch bucket against ness and lucas makes me cry, and yet happy me and my friend were in doubles and i was lucas i pked thundered and my friend jumped caught the tail and ball of it instantly filling bucket, thats gotta be abit OP that gnw can do that
cemo
white walker
don't pk thunder recover against him unless he can't make it to you.
drunk3ng0ldfish
Smash Cadet
it isn't a guaranteed KO tbh. its nearly always a KO though. thanks to the insane knockback.
i would also like to know whether absorbing staled out moves affect the bucket.
i would think it does, since it takes the amount of damage the move would do to you if you were there instead of the bucket.,
_Phloat_
Smash Champion
He ***** ness without the bucket.
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Nah, it's not Ness or Lucas that really have to worry about the Bucket. It's Zelda.
Zelda gets hard countered by G&W with the Bucket alone. 0 approach + camping punished ridiculously by Bucket.
Zelda gets hard countered by G&W with the Bucket alone. 0 approach + camping punished ridiculously by Bucket.
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
Let us also forget how G&W ***** her with everything else he has, which would mean a hard counter. The Bucket is basically just surface of it.
MagicJosh
Smash Apprentice
No. Bucket is NOT overpowered. Done
Noa.
Smash Master
Hylian, please close this thread. It's already served its purpose long ago, and it has no discussion going.
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