The Alternate File Loader (aka "The Clone Engine")

[God of Humility]

Well, I tried that, but it still doesn't work.
I have 2 different code blocks, each replacing Marth.

61727468 1100E27B
01C06C6D 00000000

This one is activated by L+A and is in the folder /lm/. This one works fine.

Its the next one that doesn't work.

61727468 1100E27B
01A06162 00000000

This one is supposed to be activated by R+A and to load from folder /ab/ but it doesn't work.
The first line is identical to the first, so I suppose the problem is in the second one, but I can't find it.
I know my bytecount is correct since I have 8 code blocks in total and the bytecount is 80.

Do you know what is the problem?

Thank you.

 

[cookieM0Nster]

Did u try doing R and A first?

 

[God of Humility]

Well, this is how I do it. When I get to the CSS, I hold R until I press start. I choose my character with A and keep A held down until I press start. I wait until the wii stops making noise until I press start. When the match starts, regular Marth is loaded, unfortunately.

Am I doing anything wrong? I'm about to give up now.

 

[JoeGrandma]

Let me get this straight...

You make a two letter name folder,
Put only ONE fighter's folder inside (or the "stage" folder) - because you replace only one fighter's files
And it should work?

If I have fitmarth00.pcs and fitmarth.pac in pf,
And I have only a different fitmarth.pac in lm, does that mean that his default costume will revert back to normal?

What I'm really trying to say is, if something is in pf and not in lm, does the pf file still work if I'm holding down the buttons to activate lm?

P.S. WHERE DO I PUT THIS CODE?!?!?!?!?!?!?
(And can I please get a link to the file that allows you to make .pac files? Please?)

 

[Grey Belnades]

And can I please get a link to the file that allows you to make .pac files? Please?)

Here is the exe that converts pcs. files into pac. files.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DQK24NP5

 

[LordshadowRagnarok]

Is there any way this amazingly awesome engine can be made... usable... for those of us who are just plain ******** when it comes to technical stuff like this?

 

[zephyrnereus]

I have a question. dunno id it's been answered.

what about transforming characters like Zela/Shiek? lets say I wanna play as echo blade zelda, but decide to play as echo blade shiek in mid-match. would I play as onrmal sheik? what if I loaded scho blade shiek on the CSS then chosen echo blade zelda? would it work?

 

[Onyx Leo]

Can anyone make a visual guide for those of us who can't understand techno babble? ><

 

[Richdog567]

Clone Engine Code Maker BETA release for pplz who dont get it

http://www.mediafire.com/file/1tz0mmzjlil/Clone Engine Code Maker.rar
For all the people who have been asking about making it easier for people who dont get it... here you go
I made this program and it only works with 4 characters right now and is kinda limited since its a BETA... but I think people will like it\

the good thing about it is the fact it WORKS

ENJOY!

 

[slimpyman]

this is kinda weak if you cant have marth vs roy matchups

 

[STUFF2o]

http://www.mediafire.com/file/1tz0mmzjlil/Clone Engine Code Maker.rar
For all the people who have been asking about making it easier for people who dont get it... here you go
I made this program and it only works with 4 characters right now and is kinda limited since its a BETA... but I think people will like it\

the good thing about it is the fact it WORKS

ENJOY!

The program says that you have to hold Z on the Gamecube controller to load the files... what about Wiimote and Nunchuck? Would that still be Z?

 

[Eldiran]

Nice work on the program, richdog. Unfortunately the code itself again proves to be unusably unreliable, but good job regardless.

 

[pokelover980]

The program says that you have to hold Z on the Gamecube controller to load the files... what about Wiimote and Nunchuck? Would that still be Z?

It was stated earlier in the topic there is not and will never be any support for anything except the GC controller. There is support for the Classic Controller, but it is supposedly really buggy.

 

[STUFF2o]

It was stated earlier in the topic there is not and will never be any support for anything except the GC controller. There is support for the Classic Controller, but it is supposedly really buggy.

... why? Sounds a bit unfair to me.

 

[pokelover980]

... why? Sounds a bit unfair to me.

Almas doesn't want to code anymore. Someone else could modify the code if they knew how, but I doubt anyone will since most people have/use the GC Controller.

 

[STUFF2o]

Almas doesn't want to code anymore. Someone else could modify the code if they knew how, but I doubt anyone will since most people have/use the GC Controller.

Not most people I know, though. I would use the GC Controller more often, but I only have a super-sensitive Wavebird and some cheap wired controller that looks like the original, but the insides rattle around and stuff. I'll be waiting for somebody to make a Nunchuck code.

 

[bboynotbgirl]

im still having trouble with this. i hope someone can help me out.

im read every page in this thread so far. and im getting a green screen when it starts up via gecko. im only using one alt character for link. here is the block:

0657A000 00000010
696E6B2F 0200E27B
00906C6D 00000000

i genereated this code with the clone engine code maker. and im still getting a green screen. im using a custom CSS made from the CSS organizer. are there any codes that possibly conflict with this one? the codes that i have on are:
file patch 3.5.1
colored sheilds
unrestricted pause/replay camera
replays longer than 3 min
stage editor infinite pieces/place anywhere
tags in replays
infinite replays
hold_ for homerun/target test/ other stages
custom default settings
CSS fix
css fixes for giga and company
css fixes for sheik/zelda ZSS/samus
custom css V3
custom random
indypokes engine no wreck my music
char ID fix 2.1
Almas's clone engine


so please if anyone has any idea whats wrong help would be much appreciated!


EDIT: i guess my custom CSS was interfering with it. is there anyway around this?

EDIT: another question. is it possible to get this to work so when you pick ganon with the button command he has his PSA with his sword, and without the command hes regular?

 

[God of Humility]

Am I the only one that's having trouble with more than one alternate? I can load from the pf folder and from one alternate only. I tried everything I could and found no way to fix this. So I ask if anyone may know what's the problem.

I already asked this and never got an answer, so I'll just quote myself. Please help.

Well, I tried that, but it still doesn't work.
I have 2 different code blocks, each replacing Marth.

61727468 1100E27B
01C06C6D 00000000

This one is activated by L+A and is in the folder /lm/. This one works fine.

Its the next one that doesn't work.

61727468 1100E27B
01A06162 00000000

This one is supposed to be activated by R+A and to load from folder /ab/ but it doesn't work.
The first line is identical to the first, so I suppose the problem is in the second one, but I can't find it.
I know my bytecount is correct since I have 8 code blocks in total and the bytecount is 80.

Do you know what is the problem?

Thank you.

Well, this is how I do it. When I get to the CSS, I hold R until I press start. I choose my character with A and keep A held down until I press start. I wait until the wii stops making noise until I press start. When the match starts, regular Marth is loaded, unfortunately.

Am I doing anything wrong? I'm about to give up now.

Do you know what's the problem? Am I the only one?

Thank you.

 

[Eldiran]

Do you know what's the problem? Am I the only one?

I think the rest of us have given up on this engine. I know I have. I don't want to be harsh, but for me at least, it flat out doesn't work right.

 

[RandomTBush]

Am I the only one that's having trouble with more than one alternate? I can load from the pf folder and from one alternate only. I tried everything I could and found no way to fix this. So I ask if anyone may know what's the problem.

You're not the only one. I tried having both Pichu (by holding L) and Manchu (by holding R), and only Pichu worked. Moving Manchu above Pichu in the list made only Manchu work... D:

 

[Kei_Takaro]

Did I do it right? Haven't tested it yet

Alternate File Loader
0657A000 00000090 <----------------9 Characters
6F6E6963 2700E27B <-Sonic
696B6163 0800E27B<-Pikachu
6F6F6E6C 2400E27B<-Toon Link
61727468 1100E27B<-Marth
696E6B2F 0200E27B<-Link
75696769 0900E27B<-Luigi
75636172 2000E27B<-Lucario
69726279 0600E27B<-Kirby
7572696E 2300E27B<-Jigglypuff
01906C6D 00000000<------------------ A+Z and on the /lm/ folder

I assume that XXXX lines are the only ones that should be stacked and multiplied?

 

[bboynotbgirl]

Did I do it right? Haven't tested it yet

Alternate File Loader
0657A000 00000090 <----------------9 Characters
6F6E6963 2700E27B <-Sonic
696B6163 0800E27B<-Pikachu
6F6F6E6C 2400E27B<-Toon Link
61727468 1100E27B<-Marth
696E6B2F 0200E27B<-Link
75696769 0900E27B<-Luigi
75636172 2000E27B<-Lucario
69726279 0600E27B<-Kirby
7572696E 2300E27B<-Jigglypuff
01906C6D 00000000<------------------ A+Z and on the /lm/ folder

I assume that XXXX lines are the only ones that should be stacked and multiplied?

i think you need the "01906C6D 00000000" line after each character cause thats how mine is and it works.

 

[Kei_Takaro]

Alternate File Data /lm/ 9 characters
0657A000 00000090
6F6E6963 2700E27B
01906C6D 00000000
696B6163 0800E27B
01906C6D 00000000
6F6F6E6C 2400E27B
01906C6D 00000000
61727468 1100E27B
01906C6D 00000000
696E6B2F 0200E27B
01906C6D 00000000
75696769 0900E27B
01906C6D 00000000
75636172 2000E27B
01906C6D 00000000
69726279 0600E27B
01906C6D 00000000
7572696E 2300E27B
01906C6D 00000000

^So this must be the final one?
Thanks I'll give It a try later

 

[bboynotbgirl]

yep just like that. and good luck!

 

[zephyrnereus]

hey, just curious. would I be able to use the code making program to make my own code with more characters? example, I have 10 characters, so I make 2 codes of 4 and one code of 2 with the program, change the character limit to 10 and place them together in the fashion of the post above?

 

[bboynotbgirl]

this conflicts with custom CSS codes. is there anyway around this?

 

[grim mouser]

this conflicts with custom CSS codes. is there anyway around this?

If you're referring to PW's recent hack that changes the position of the character display, etc., I don't know.

If you're referring just to the character select slots, IDK what's going wrong for you. I use a custom CSS, but I have not encountered any problems. Be sure you have Custom Random and all those other fix codes.

 

[bboynotbgirl]

@ grim mouser

first thanks for the response. but its working with my current code right now and im pretty sure i have everything on correctly. but when i added a new PSA hack for toonlink it stops at gecko. i get a black screen after gecko loads. and im using file patch 3.5.1 i havent tried his new file patch code yet. could you possibly give me your CSS? so i can test it please? if its not too much trouble.

 

[Jack Kieser]

Ok, I'm trying to make a file loader for 5 separate versions of the Wi-Fi Waiting Room. For some reason, it's not working at all. Can someone look at my code and tell me what I haven't done right? I included useage documentation in the txt file.

You can get the txt file here.

 

[Alphatron]

I believe this version of the file loader only works for stage textures. I may be wrong though, but Dantarion has been trying to come up with a loader for the SSE stages themselves.

 

[Jack Kieser]

Seriously? Well, ****. I figured that it'd work, since textures and models are in the same file for stages. Didn't realize the code could only replace textures. Crap.

 

[omni_destroyer]

Even if the Alternate File Loader could load SSE stages, you'll only be able to have one alternate per stage. No one has been able to get the code to load multiple stages/characters textures from a single base.

 

[Jack Kieser]

Really? It seemed like it'd be easy: just assign different button triggers.

 

[omni_destroyer]

The thing is, if you try using the same character/stage twice or more in the Alternate File Data code, it only recognizes the first instant of the code, even if you use different button activators. Using your code as an example, only the part that is underlined would be recognized. I'm not sure why the code works that way.

Alternate File Data
* 0657A000 00000050
* [U]45452F53 0000E27B[/U]
* [U]01406161 00000000[/U]
* 45452F53 0000E27B
* 01206262 00000000
* 45452F53 0000E27B
* 05006363 00000000
* 45452F53 0000E27B
* 09006464 00000000
* 45452F53 0000E27B
* 01606565 00000000

 

[Richdog567]

hey, just curious. would I be able to use the code making program to make my own code with more characters? example, I have 10 characters, so I make 2 codes of 4 and one code of 2 with the program, change the character limit to 10 and place them together in the fashion of the post above?

I created the program and that should work...
The only reason it only has 4 characters is because ive been too lazy to finish the program...

 

[grim mouser]

Would it work if you assigned different buttons to load from different folders?

 

[Oni K4ge]

I created the program and that should work...
The only reason it only has 4 characters is because ive been too lazy to finish the program...

couldn't one just use the program twice and combine the output of the codes?

 

[grim mouser]

The thing is, if you try using the same character/stage twice or more in the Alternate File Data code, it only recognizes the first instant of the code

Well, snap. That explains a lot. I guess there's no way around it without modifying the base code, then.

 

[Almas]

I have intention to tweak and fix this code as soon as I have the time and effort now that I have settled in at university. However, people's lack of willingness to help me test codes given that I don't have ready access to a TV is somewhat unmotivating.

 

[Eldiran]

I have intention to tweak and fix this code as soon as I have the time and effort now that I have settled in at university. However, people's lack of willingness to help me test codes given that I don't have ready access to a TV is somewhat unmotivating.

I can see why not having your own way to test codes would be unmotivating. I'll definitely volunteer to test the Clone Engine for you though, if that helps. I'd test your B+ codes but I don't use B+, so the subtle changes would be lost on me.