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Tech chasing spacies and the shine

hectohertz

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so I've noticed a lot of spacies will tech-> shine after a dthrow which is pretty good at disrupting my tech-chase and stopping me from getting the regrab

what do people like to do against that? can you dash attack against it ? downsmash?

or should one just spot-dodge -> regrab
 

Strong Badam

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I don't remember what frame stationary tech ends (on my phone so I can't check), but the invincibility for every char except Pikachu and Pichu ends frame 20, 24 for those two. Grabbing by reaction is difficult but is the best option if you can

:phone:
 

gm jack

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If less sure, a mix up you can use is jab -> grab as it is quicker and will clank with shine. Not a true combo, but if you only use it occasionally, they may miss their options to escape from it.
 

hectohertz

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interesting, got any good ways to practice that?

and what are some other mix-ups that work. i like jab. can downsmash/dash-attack beat/clank the shine?
 

gm jack

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Nothing can beat shine, as it is frame 1 and has invincibility on that frame.

The trick is just to be quicker. Stuff like jab and smash may only work because they are quicker than a grab and you are being slightly slow.
 
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