Sonic

[FalKoopa]

Tails first. Mario got Luigi before Bowser. Donkey Kong has Diddy Kong before K Rool.

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That was my personal preference.

 

[volbound1700]

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That was my personal preference.

I know . I gave you mine as well .

 

[Starcutter]

Fairly certain sonic will be back, as they haven't announced the third game that sonic will be in Nintendo's command in their 3 game deal. probably smash.

 

[DarkFoxTeam]

If Sonic does come back then we should totally have Eggman as a Boss in the campaign mode! I'd like to see Megaman and Sonic work together in the campaign since they're both getting a crossover in the comics lol

 

[D-idara]

Oh god...most of Sonic's moves should change when we talk about B moves...but please don't change the single most-awesome FS in the game.

 

[Espy Rose]

I must be the only one who wants Sonic's moveset the stay the way it was.
For the most part, I mean. The only thing I'd want changed is Homing Attack.

I just want the moves themselves to be a tad faster.

 

[Knight Dude]

I think Sonic is likely to stay. Given his reception and popularity. Not to mention, he is very fitting with the rest of the cast. But I feel his one B attacks need to be changed a bit. Either the Side-B or the Down-B, as they are pretty similar to each other.

 

[[Corn]]

Im kinda lost here, where on Earth has Sonics reception been positive?

 

[Knight Dude]

Im kinda lost here, where on Earth has Sonic's reception been positive?

I'm not talking about his moveset in particular. I know some people were dissapointed with his moveset. But a lot people were very, very happy with him being included into Brawl. So his reception for being playable at all was what the positive reception cam from. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[[Corn]]

I'm not talking about his moveset in particular. I know some people were dissapointed with his moveset. But a lot people were very, very happy with him being included into Brawl. So his reception for being playable at all was what the positive reception cam from. Sorry for the confusion.

Im not talking about his moveset really, I havnt really met anyone who believed that his inclusion in brawl was needed/a success.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Being the major Sonic fanboy I am [don't worry I distance myself from the terrible part of this fanbase (read the sonic one) at all times possible >.>] I would REALLY love to see him come back. Maybe with some changed up B moves and a possible meteor smash? The Sonic Eagle from Sonic Battle would work nicely. It's a swift mid-air downward kick.

 

[Knight Dude]

Im not talking about his moveset really, I havnt really met anyone who believed that his inclusion in brawl was needed/a success.

Really? I've come across the opposite. Most people I ask seem to like him being added.

 

[Zenokidz]

I must be the only one who wants Sonic's moveset the stay the way it was.
For the most part, I mean. The only thing I'd want changed is Homing Attack.

I just want the moves themselves to be a tad faster.

I would like to see how his playstyle would pan out if all his moves were a tad bit faster if kept the same. It'd be cool to see what would be possible!

 

[Espy Rose]

He'd be able to punish more consistently and accurately.
Just a much stronger, option-oriented character than he already was. Which is all I really want.

 

[Frostwraith]

If there's something about SSB4 I take for granted is that if Sonic doesn't return, the ****storm will be immense.

The Sonic fanbase hasn't exactly got a good reputation, you know.

 

[greenluigiman2]

I must be the only one who wants Sonic's moveset the stay the way it was.
For the most part, I mean. The only thing I'd want changed is Homing Attack.

I just want the moves themselves to be a tad faster.

Why do you want Homing Attack to change? It makes sense as a move and it is unique. I hope they make it better this time around though.

I'd rather his side/down special be changed, so that he only has one spin dash.

 

[Espy Rose]

Have you played Super Smash Bros. Brawl on the Nintendo Wii?

 

[greenluigiman2]

yeeeah... I own the game. Why?

 

[Sinn]

If Sonic does come back then we should totally have Eggman as a Boss in the campaign mode! I'd like to see Megaman and Sonic work together in the campaign since they're both getting a crossover in the comics lol

Dude, even Wily and Eggman working together would be awesome, what with both of them building robots and machines. Of course, that's if they don't kill each other in the process.

 

[kid craft 24/sonic master]

if sonic moveset just gets a tad faster ill be fine with that but i personally would like just as many others do for sonic to gain the eagle kick from sonic battle and for either his side b to be changed to the light dash or that new energy kick he does in lost world.

 

[smashbro29]

They NEED to use the P:M moveset.

 

[Espy Rose]

Sweet mother of god no.

 

[smashbro29]

Sweet mother of god no.

It's so much better though, they took out his Falco clone fair, gave him a better down smash and now he rotates from using the spring!

 

[Espy Rose]

That moveset is only as good as it is because it's on a Melee-emulated set of physics.
Slap that same moveset into a Brawl environment and half of the reasons why it's so good are suddenly invalidated.

 

[smashbro29]

That moveset is only as good as it is because it's on a Melee-emulated set of physics.
Slap that same moveset into a Brawl environment and half of the reasons why it's so good are suddenly invalidated.

Slap any of the movesets into a Brawl environment and they suck, what's your point?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Slap any of the movesets into a Brawl environment and they suck, what's your point?

Think of it like this. An attack that could easily KO things in Melee would have a hard time KOing things in Brawl. Sonic's biggest problem is not just the lack of an actual projectile, but also because of his lack of strong attacks that can score easy KOs.

 

[smashbro29]

Think of it like this. An attack that could easily KO things in Melee would have a hard time KOing things in Brawl. Sonic's biggest problem is not just the lack of an actual projectile, but also because of his lack of strong attacks that can score easy KOs.

Gonna have to be more specific, I don't see how that applies to this debate. He actually has an easier time in Project:M.

Also why is your text so small? It's so hard to read.

 

[volbound1700]

Fairly certain sonic will be back, as they haven't announced the third game that sonic will be in Nintendo's command in their 3 game deal. probably smash.

No, the 3 game deal was actual Sonic games, not Sonic cameo/participation in Nintendo games.

 

[TheTuninator]

Oh god...most of Sonic's moves should change when we talk about B moves...but please don't change the single most-awesome FS in the game.

Sonic's Final Smash absolutely needs to be reworked. It's OP to the point where it's unfair to just about every other character, and a slap in the face to Pikachu in particular.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I wonder, with Mega Man being given the whole "classic" treatment with his look, if Sonic will get his classic look that's also present in Generations. I personally would prefer it, I think it'd blend in really well with the visual style of SSB4.

 

[Sinn]

I wonder, with Mega Man being given the whole "classic" treatment with his look, if Sonic will get his classic look that's also present in Generations. I personally would prefer it, I think it'd blend in really well with the visual style of SSB4.

Perhaps...then again, the first Sonic game released on a Nintendo system was Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, wasn't it? If we're talking about classic from a Nintendo standpoint, the more modern Sonic sortta fits the bill.

 

[Espy Rose]

Sonic's Final Smash absolutely needs to be reworked. It's OP to the point where it's unfair to just about every other character, and a slap in the face to Pikachu in particular.

I think you're missing the point of Final Smashes.

 

[TheTuninator]

I think you're missing the point of Final Smashes.

Most Final Smashes can kill 1-3 characters once, and that's if you're lucky. Sonic's can easily wipe the entire field twice and requires almost no effort on the part of the player. It's way, way too strong.

No Final Smash should be able to kill a player twice in one go, and the fact that Sonic can so easily wipe the entire field twice is really just awful when you look at many characters who struggle to get more than one kill out of their Final Smash.

I know most of you guys probably really like it, and that's understandable, but I'm sorry, it's just way too overpowered a move to stay. Look at Pikachu's Final Smash and tell me that Sonic's Final Smash is fair to the rest of the cast. It's pretty much a straight upgrade over that one alone, to say nothing of all the Final Smashes that will only get more than 1 kill if you are extremely clever or lucky.

 

[Espy Rose]

I really think you're missing the point.

 

[TheTuninator]

I really think you're missing the point.

Yes, yes, Final Smashes are stupid overpowered flashy moves to kill bunches of characters. Doesn't mean that they shouldn't be at least somewhat balanced relative to one another. If Sonic was literally the worst character in the game by a gap of about four non-existent tiers maybe his Final Smash could be justifiable, but he's not.

If Sonic's is going to stay that strong, all of the other Final Smashes need to get amped way up. Personally, I'd like to see his Final Smash just get cut in duration. That way it's still really good and fun, but you aren't going to kill anybody twice; no Final Smash should be capable of that, and if one is, it should be very difficult to control.

 

[Linkz973]

I just hope all of his B moves won't look the same again.

lmfaoooo so true

OR! Even worse. Make him turn into the werehog instead. OR what it they made him have a transformation into the Werehog as two different characters. Lol

no ... just no

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Gonna have to be more specific, I don't see how that applies to this debate. He actually has an easier time in Project:M.

Refer to Ganondorf's Wizard's Foot in Melee and Brawl. Of course, this is not the thread to be talking about him.

 

[Linkz973]

I am going to lean toward Sonic not returning. Instead maybe Pac Man and Megaman as guest characters.

If Sonic does return, how about making sure that half his moves are not turning into a ball. Two nearly identical specials just seems embarrassing.

BLASPHEMY

 

[volbound1700]

I read the recent Sakurai comments and it made me more comfortable with Sonic returning.

Sakurai stated that what made him consider Megaman is his uniqueness moveset wise that is not in Nintendo and that he was 2nd after Sonic in popularity poll. Sonic also has a unique move-set.

Sakurai also stated in article how he doesn't like to cut and he knows people get attached to the characters, etc.

 

[Linkz973]

lies all lies