So no Missile Cancelling huh?

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Mega sad face. Did anyone figure out if her Z-air worked like it did in Brawl? Loved using that.

 

[TeaTwoTime]

Mega sad face. Did anyone figure out if her Z-air worked like it did in Brawl? Loved using that.

I believe Z-air is pretty much the same as in Brawl.
Don't worry too much about not having missile cancelling; she's received enough buffs to more than compensate for that. Her missiles will have to be used more carefully, but they're still useful.

 

[-FUZZ-]

I believe Z-air is pretty much the same as in Brawl.
Don't worry too much about not having missile cancelling; she's received enough buffs to more than compensate for that. Her missiles will have to be used more carefully, but they're still useful.

it's true, as long as they made her overall better she definitely doesn't need it. I WAS worried about z-air though! gosh, that move when spaced properly in Brawl (and PM too right?) was so annoyingly useful (even if easily avoided by more experienced players) so that's pretty cool news.

 

[Hapajin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pimgQxlJ7tI Here you can see the Zair looks pretty good still.

No missile canceling is pretty sad, but there are possibilities for better options in her custom moveset. Hopefully she gets some decent options for her ranged options because if Sakurai designed her to be a major close range fighter, it's gonna be a struggle against the rest of the cast with a more viable close range game. I really hope she'll get out of the low tier.

 

[-FUZZ-]

No missile canceling is pretty sad, but there are possibilities for better options in her custom moveset. Hopefully she gets some decent options for her ranged options because if Sakurai designed her to be a major close range fighter, it's gonna be a struggle against the rest of the cast with a more viable close range game. I really hope she'll get out of the low tier.[/quote]
i agree with everything you say here although im having a hard time imagining custom move sets in the official rule set or outside of side events at tourneys but aside from that... yooooo it looks untouched

 

[Hapajin]

Yeah I share your concern about custom movesets being allowed in tourneys, but I think there's a good chance they might be. This video makes a good case for having custom moves allowed in competitive play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdIgI63X2zk

 

[-FUZZ-]

Yeah I share your concern about custom movesets being allowed in tourneys, but I think there's a good chance they might be. This video makes a good case for having custom moves allowed in competitive play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdIgI63X2zk

thanks for sharing man. insightful stuff

 

[robinpup]

well there is some like missile cancel in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD_ZnB8yJuA 1:53

 

[Hapajin]

well there is some like missile cancel in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD_ZnB8yJuA 1:53

That was the steel diver gun thing I think. Too bad Samus' missiles aren't like that

 

[RPK]

Even though we can no longer missile cancel, I think we can just do full jump homing missile->zair which is just as good and covers just as much area and is also lagless.

 

[pinkdeaf1]

Not to mention Samus can fire missiles with rapid succession on the ground anyways.

 

[PolarPanda]

Her sheer amount of increase in usefulness really makes up for it, honestly. She seems really good in this game.

 

[n00b]

idk dude, missile cancel is crucial to let Samus act immediately behind her missiles, or to increase ranged pressure with multiple missiles at once. They're too slow, low durability, and non-threatening in this game to be used defensively or offensively at any reasonable range. Many of her mixups and defensive options depended on missiles making her approach safe, as her grab, roll, and dash attack are all telegraphed and laggy. Without these tools, Samus has to work around control with tilts and smashes, which, compared to other characters, often get outranged, outprioritized, or superarmored through.