Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Zinith]

can you share the source? interested.

New Yoshi tech! On the first few frames of inputting shield, his head is invincible(indicated by the blue sphere on his head), which is really useful against some aerials. You can then punish with anything.

Reminds me of Melee parry. pic.twitter.com/2HSLntu5ZE

— FRESCO🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦 (@FaresAlHaqbani) November 29, 2018

The guy says "invincibility" but it's more like intangibility

 

[Iridium]

I think the Lylat haters might actually win this round.

Fair's fair. I'm not gonna defend a stage that does this, or suppress a clip just because I don't like what I see.

Unless a third person wants to send me a third clip of this happening somewhere else too... pic.twitter.com/QiCbmi3qSb

— Andrew Nestico (@PracticalTAS) November 29, 2018

Can't argue with the Lylat jank.

 

[KMDP]

I don't know, Sephiroth seems like the most boring 2nd SE Character choice. I'd rather then pick something from a different franchise or even a different Final Fantasy game frankly.

I don't think Sephiroth would be boring at all.

Even though he's another Swordsman, he'd be different from the others for these reasons:

1. (Justifiably) high range
2. Floaty properties
3. Multi-hit attacks

 

[Deleted member]

So, which design would they choose for Sora? I'm a fan of 3, but 2 is far more iconic at this point and 1 is equally if not more so.

Perhaps 2 but with the option to limit form into 1?

ive actually posted about this before. I think it depends.
If KH III (and the rest) end up being announced as coming to Switch, then the KH III outfit would be the primary outfit for him
If not, 50-50 chance the default outfit would be Classic.
Most likely, though, that no matter which one is 'default', all three would be available as palette swaps.

 

[Deleted member]

edit: lmao I'm dumb I said something pretty insensitive, I apologize to anyone who may have been offended

 

[Deleted member]

I think the Lylat haters might actually win this round.

Fair's fair. I'm not gonna defend a stage that does this, or suppress a clip just because I don't like what I see.

Unless a third person wants to send me a third clip of this happening somewhere else too... pic.twitter.com/QiCbmi3qSb

— Andrew Nestico (@PracticalTAS) November 29, 2018

Can't argue with the Lylat jank.

Lylat Cruise absorbed all the Smash 4 jank onto itself to spare the rest of the game. Such a brave hero it is...

 

[RyuhoFox]

I don't think Sephiroth would be boring at all.

Even though he's another Swordsman, he'd be different from the others for these reasons:

1. (Justifiably) high range
2. Floaty properties
3. Multi-hit attacks

4: METEORS. Also would be fun if his Final Smash was the same animation as in the old Dissidia's where it looks like he is MATHing you to death

 

[Deleted member]

traps are just improved girls prove me wrong

Please don't use that word

 

[PsySmasher]

I think the Lylat haters might actually win this round.

Fair's fair. I'm not gonna defend a stage that does this, or suppress a clip just because I don't like what I see.

Unless a third person wants to send me a third clip of this happening somewhere else too... pic.twitter.com/QiCbmi3qSb

— Andrew Nestico (@PracticalTAS) November 29, 2018

Can't argue with the Lylat jank.

They somehow made it worse.

They somehow made it worse.

 

[Solaris_Noid]

I'll be fine with Sephiroth if Heartless Angel functions like it does in Dissidia.

Minus the 1000 frames of startup that is.

 

[LetterO]

I think the Lylat haters might actually win this round.

Fair's fair. I'm not gonna defend a stage that does this, or suppress a clip just because I don't like what I see.

Unless a third person wants to send me a third clip of this happening somewhere else too... pic.twitter.com/QiCbmi3qSb

— Andrew Nestico (@PracticalTAS) November 29, 2018

Can't argue with the Lylat jank.

I think I'm just stupid but could someone explain why Lylat's bad? Just wondering.

 

[KMDP]

4: METEORS. Also would be fun if his Final Smash was the same animation as in the old Dissidia's where it looks like he is MATHing you to death

I was actually going to bring up Meteors as the fourth point ("4. Ranged options (i.e. Meteor)"), but then removed it, obviously that was a mistake.

Also, yes, Sephiroth with the Math Calculation meme.

 

[Iridium]

I think I'm just stupid but could someone explain why Lylat's bad? Just wondering.

Infamous tilting mechanic, falling through or moving through parts of the stage, and things like that.

 

[RyuhoFox]

I was actually going to bring up Meteors as the fourth point ("4. Ranged options (i.e. Meteor)"), but then removed it, obviously that was a mistake.

Also, yes, Sephiroth with the Math Calculation meme.

MEMES. The DNA of the soul

 

[Solaris_Noid]

I think I'm just stupid but could someone explain why Lylat's bad? Just wondering.

One video that was shown a few days ago had Kirby completely missing his ledge grab and this one has a character completely going through a solid surface (Great Fox) and getting KO'd.

 

[Androobie]

traps are just improved girls prove me wrong

Chief.

This ain't it.

 

[ZoroCarlos]

I don't think it's just a Lylat thing, a lot of stages are showing to have some pretty ****ed collisions or something.

Cross another one off the list boys pic.twitter.com/NXrg8GYEB2

— mCon | Ramses ➡️ CEO (@RamsesDecrees) November 28, 2018

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[Idon]

I think I'm just stupid but could someone explain why Lylat's bad? Just wondering.

The stage has that ridiculous tilting. Projectiles, combos, recovering, all of it affected by a stupid unecessary gimmick.

Doesn't help the stage is buggy as **** and has issues with ledges working.

 

[KMDP]

MEMES. The DNA of the soul
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Tifa gambles at you, beats you up, and then you explode. "Feels like you're flying, doesn't it?"
Sephiroth Maths until reality shatters, and then you fall into a Sun.

Clearly what we need in Smash.

 

[Pyra]

it's almost like there's gonna be a d1 patch for physical copies

 

[Deleted member]

There’s some nice sylux fanart on /v/ that I’ve seen

Spoiler: Warning: bit of adult language

The connection is supposed to be that neither of them have spirits

 

[Zinith]

Imagine seeing the most iconic video game character's lovable dinosaur sidekick fighting in the biggest crossover title ever with unique tech, special characteristics, hype gameplay, etc and thinking: "Hehe, small brain, spam A, tax fraud"...

Couldn't be me.

— Bonz (@Bonz_xz) November 30, 2018

Amen Bonz

 

[Deleted member]

Please don't use that word

ok my bad, that was pretty insensitive of me to do that. I apologize, I won't use that word again.

 

[RyuhoFox]

Tifa gambles at you, beats you up, and then you explode. "Feels like you're flying doesn't it?"
Sephiroth Maths until reality shatters, and then you fall into a Sun.

Clearly what we need in Smash.

Man I miss Tifa. I hope that Dissidia NT goes long enough on consoles to get her back in. She would be fun in Smash too though.
Though her chances are probably super low. Especially with Sephiroth to compete against.

Gif showing how Tifa facing off against Sephiroth for a spot would be like.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

I don't think it's just a Lylat thing, a lot of stages are showing to have some pretty ****ed collisions or something.

Cross another one off the list boys pic.twitter.com/NXrg8GYEB2

— mCon | Ramses ➡️ CEO (@RamsesDecrees) November 28, 2018

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Those are definitely bugs that can be fixed. Lylat is always going to be screwy because that’s what it is. It’s a pity though. I always loved the space aesthetics in that stage.

 

[Deleted member]

Those are definitely bugs that can be fixed. Lylat is always going to be screwy because that’s what it is. It’s a pity though. I always loved the space aesthetics in that stage.

I thought the Lylat thing was just Kirby's recovery being stupid?

 

[Deleted member]

I joined a Simon/Richter Discord server so time to jump on their resource section

 

[Zinith]

Lylat Cruise was legal in Brawl and Smash 4 lol

 

[Idon]

Man I miss Tifa. I hope that Dissidia NT goes long enough on consoles to get her back in. She would be fun in Smash too though.
Though her chances are probably super low. Especially with Sephiroth to compete against.
View attachment 180648
Gif showing how Tifa facing off against Sephiroth for a spot would be like.

Well you're in luck because someone already leaked the Dissidia NT DLC characters and after the end of Season 1 having Snow, they're going to be putting in the season 2 characters Tifa along with Gilgamesh, Zack, Vivi, Laguna, and Gabranth.

 

[Deleted member]

I joined a Simon/Richter Discord server so time to jump on their resource section

F R A M E D A T A T I M E

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

I thought the Lylat thing was just Kirby's recovery being stupid?

It is. I’m just talking about the tilting.

 

[Royalty1702]

Nintendo Dream, Japanese magazine, did a poll a little while ago about "Favorite Nintendo Characters".
https://mynintendonews.com/2018/11/...eveals-readers-favourite-nintendo-characters/

Spoiler: Results

• Kirby (Kirby) – 189
• Link (The Legend of Zelda) – 123
• Pikachu (Pokémon) – 117
• Mario (Super Mario)
• Luigi (Super Mario)
• Corrin (Fire Emblem)
• Eevee (Pokémon)
• Isabelle (Animal Crossing)
• Inkling (Splatoon)
• Yoshi (Super Mario)
• Chrom (Fire Emblem)
• Robin (Fire Emblem)
• Zelda (The Legend of Zelda)
• Rowlet (Pokémon)
• Camilla (Fire Emblem)
• Marth (Fire Emblem)
• Ike (Fire Emblem)
• Ashley (WarioWare)
• Sans (UNDERTALE)
• Daisy (Super Mario)

*Looks at the second to last character*
HE'S ******* IN!!!!!

 

[DraginHikari]

I don't think Sephiroth would be boring at all.

Even though he's another Swordsman, he'd be different from the others for these reasons:

1. (Justifiably) high range
2. Floaty properties
3. Multi-hit attacks

I don't really mean in a gameplay sense as I'm convinced they can make most characters work but more so because I think there are more interesting choices in a personal sense.

 

[Saetanigera]

I'd like to see the Diablo sorceress, Mi Ling, in Smash. All her B moves would have cooldowns and they'd be aimed with the right thumb stick.

 

[Deleted member]

It is. I’m just talking about the tilting.

Lylat was allowed in Sm4sh, wasn't it? Even with the tilting...

Imagine seeing the most iconic video game character's lovable dinosaur sidekick fighting in the biggest crossover title ever with unique tech, special characteristics, hype gameplay, etc and thinking: "Hehe, small brain, spam A, tax fraud"...

Couldn't be me.

— Bonz (@Bonz_xz) November 30, 2018

Amen Bonz

Stop apologizing for the sins Yoshi has committed against American society, Zinith. TAX FRAUD IS A FEDERAL CRIME

 

[TMNTSSB4]

SERIOUSLY. WHAT DID I MISS.

Everything

Huh...

remember this image?

View attachment 180629

Did Captain Toad get removed from the final build of this stage or something?
I've been keeping an eagle eye out for the little guy during New Donk City matches and have yet to actually see him outside this one screenshot on the website.

He died

The way they implemented Toad rustles my jimmies.

He pops up the third time the stage travels past that spot. It's like an Easter Egg you'll never see because the matches end before you get there.

This is uncomfortable

I think the Lylat haters might actually win this round.

Fair's fair. I'm not gonna defend a stage that does this, or suppress a clip just because I don't like what I see.

Unless a third person wants to send me a third clip of this happening somewhere else too... pic.twitter.com/QiCbmi3qSb

— Andrew Nestico (@PracticalTAS) November 29, 2018

Can't argue with the Lylat jank.

Banned (D1 2014-2018)

I don't think it's just a Lylat thing, a lot of stages are showing to have some pretty ****ed collisions or something.

Cross another one off the list boys pic.twitter.com/NXrg8GYEB2

— mCon | Ramses ➡️ CEO (@RamsesDecrees) November 28, 2018

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Double Banned (D1 2014-2018)

 

[Knight Dude]

Nintendo Dream, Japanese magazine, did a poll a little while ago about "Favorite Nintendo Characters".
https://mynintendonews.com/2018/11/...eveals-readers-favourite-nintendo-characters/

Spoiler: Results

• Kirby (Kirby) – 189
• Link (The Legend of Zelda) – 123
• Pikachu (Pokémon) – 117
• Mario (Super Mario)
• Luigi (Super Mario)
• Corrin (Fire Emblem)
• Eevee (Pokémon)
• Isabelle (Animal Crossing)
• Inkling (Splatoon)
• Yoshi (Super Mario)
• Chrom (Fire Emblem)
• Robin (Fire Emblem)
• Zelda (The Legend of Zelda)
• Rowlet (Pokémon)
• Camilla (Fire Emblem)
• Marth (Fire Emblem)
• Ike (Fire Emblem)
• Ashley (WarioWare)
• Sans (UNDERTALE)
• Daisy (Super Mario)

*Looks at the second to last character*
HE'S ******* IN!!!!!

I know Japan doesn't play Metroid much, but how could they sandbag Samus like that? At least Daisy's liked more than Peach.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Lylat was allowed in Sm4sh, wasn't it? Even with the tilting...

Its still not that great of a stage imo.

 

[KMDP]

Man I miss Tifa. I hope that Dissidia NT goes long enough on consoles to get her back in. She would be fun in Smash too though.
Though her chances are probably super low. Especially with Sephiroth to compete against.
View attachment 180648
Gif showing how Tifa facing off against Sephiroth for a spot would be like.

I saw a joke once that Dissidia NT was "Dissidia 'No Tifa'." I still need to play it more, unfortunately it's extreme focus on online kinda kills it for me.

We've come a long way from the time when Dissidia 012 wouldn't have gotten made if Tifa wasn't in it, per the orders of Director Mitsunori Takahashi. Now, Tifa is the only member of Avalanche we haven't seen for FF7R. She wasn't even in Itadaki Street 30th Anniversary (though that could be chalked up more to them limiting the representatives to a maximum of two per game).

Well you're in luck because someone already leaked the Dissidia NT DLC characters and after the end of Season 1 having Snow, they're going to be putting in the season 2 characters Tifa along with Gilgamesh, Zack, Vivi, Laguna, and Gabranth.

Gilgamesh and Tifa should have been in Season 1. That's good to hear!

 

[RyuhoFox]

Well you're in luck because someone already leaked the Dissidia NT DLC characters and after the end of Season 1 having Snow, they're going to be putting in the season 2 characters Tifa along with Gilgamesh, Zack, Vivi, Laguna, and Gabranth.

Awesome. Having one of my two punchy girls back will be great. Hope Prishe would be in season 3 then. Gilgamesh, Vivi, Zack, Laguna, and Gabranth will all be interesting too imo.

Still hoping against hope that Freya will join at some point though.