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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Hypothetical: Squirtle and Ivysaur return, and we also get Decidueye. This leaves a 2-2-1 starter split, so we also get a second Fire starter. Who would be your pick?
Considering it doesn't have to be a 3rd stage (Water has Squirtle and Grass has Ivysaur, after all) My preference would be Torracat or Braixen. Braixen is really popular in Japan which helped it get its Pokken spot, and it was a main character in the anime. Torracat now has a spot in the anime and just has a wonderful design imo.

Also, rip Johto. Nobody is suggesting Typhlosion/any Johto starter
 

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NEW QUESTION: What Nintendo character does everyone want LEAST in Smash.

Mine is ANY Pokémon RéBurst character.
 
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They were the least interesting ones.
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The Croconaw of disapproval is here to greet you. And it brought its bodybuilder father..... :160:

NEW QUESTION: What character does everyone want LEAST in Smash.

Mine is ANY Pokémon RéBurst character.
I think the issue with this prompt is that it could literally be anything. Do you mean out of characters that are in some way reasonable? I'll answer it that way.

The character I least want is a Labo character. Honestly why would anyone want a cardboard toy as a character?
 
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NEW QUESTION: What character does everyone want LEAST in Smash.

Mine is ANY Pokémon RéBurst character.
My honest-to-god answer is Ridley. I dunno, I just don't see how he'd be a fun character to play.
 

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My honest-to-god answer is Ridley. I dunno, I just don't see how he'd be a fun character to play.
I felt that way til I played the Legacy XP mod with playable Ridley. He was sort of clunky since it was a fan-made thing, but wow was he fun. The way they designed him was really great in concept.
 

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I felt that way til I played the Legacy XP mod with playable Ridley. He was sort of clunky since it was a fan-made thing, but wow was he fun. The way they designed him was really great in concept.
Ah, I haven't played that mod. Maybe I should give it a try and see if it changes my tune.
 

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Ah, I haven't played that mod. Maybe I should give it a try and see if it changes my tune.
I'll be honest, the first hour I played Ridley I was like "Tf were they drinking when making this?" But the more I played him and got used to his movement and odd fan-mod quirks, he was great. Tail stabbing people was super fun and his fire breath was fun when I got used to using it. I think with official Nintendo polish, he'd contend for my favorite character to play, and I don't think I even qualify as a "Ridley Supporter".
 

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This is what happens when you let people write in their suggestions. Let me know if you see any redundancies. I can only imagine how disjointed the ballot may have been. :laugh:

Waluigi (176)
King K. Rool (46)
Ridley (44)
Isaac (33)
King K Rool (30)
Spring Man (28)
Decidueye (25)
Paper Mario (24)
Rex (23)
Bandana Dee (20)
Impa (15)
Midna (12)
Geno (11)
Krystal (11)
Captain Toad (9)
Toad (9)
Lyn (8)
Springman (8)
King Boo (8)
Bandana Waddle Dee (7)
Ribbon Girl (7)
Dixie Kong (6)
Chibi-Robo (6)
Celica (6)
Skull Kid (6)
Cappy (6)
Hector (6)
Min Min (5)
Elma (5)
Funky Kong (5)
Rex and Pyra/Mythra (5)
Tingle (5)
Pyra (5)
Chibi Robo (5)
Dark Samus (5)
Fawful (5)
Ninten (5)
Waluigi (5)
Hades (5)
Birdo (4)
Spring man (4)
Urbosa (4)
Ephraim (4)
Chrom (4)
Tetra (4)
Mythra (4)
Isaac (Golden Sun) (4)
Zant (4)
Sylux (4)
Rex (3)
Takamaru (3)
Rex and Pyra (3)
waluigi (3)
Bandanna Dee (3)
Isaac from Golden Sun (3)
K Rool (3)
Mipha (3)
K. Rool (3)
Professor Layton (3)
Waddle Dee (3)
Vaati (3)
Viridi (3)
Shovel Knight (3)
Karate Joe (3)
Dillon (3)
Phoenix Wright (3)
Marx (3)
Goku (3)
Saki Amamiya (3)
Isabelle (3)
Slippy Toad (2)
Gengar (2)
Ganon (2)
Starfy (2)
Sidon (2)
Rex & Pyra (2)
None (2)
Reggie (2)
Sceptile (2)
Tom Nook (2)
King k rool (2)
Lycanroc (2)
ARMS (2)
Bandanna Waddle Dee (2)
Spring-Man (2)
Shy Guy (2)
Daruk (2)
Toon Ganondorf (2)
Anna (Fire Emblem) (2)
Ribbon girl (2)
King K.Rool (2)
dixie kong (2)
Mayor Pauline (2)
K.Rool (2)
king k rool (2)
Rex from XC2 (2)
bandana dee (2)
Lanky Kong (2)
Lip (2)
Issac (2)
Other (312)

Also don't let the occasional third-party throw you, this was the section for Nintendo characters.

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/84x9go/rsmashbros_smash_switch_character_survey/

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
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Y'know what I really want from Street Fighter in Smash Bros.?

MORE MUSIC. I want Guile's Theme, Zangief's Theme, and Cammy's Theme.
While I certainly agree with you. We're merely scrapping the surface of Street Fighter music. Chun-Li and Blanka's themes are practically musts are far as I'm concerned.

ALSO, if I had it my way, Street Fighter 3: Third Strikes whole OST would be on the Ryu stage. At least Jazzy NYC.

I'd also be happy with even more Mega Man music. There needed to be a bit of branching out past the first 3 Mega Man games. Smash 4 was off to a good start though.
 

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This is what happens when you let people write in their suggestions. Let me know if you see any redundancies. I can only imagine how disjointed the ballot may have been. :laugh:

Waluigi (176)
King K. Rool (46)
Ridley (44)
Isaac (33)
King K Rool (30)
Spring Man (28)
Decidueye (25)
Paper Mario (24)
Rex (23)
Bandana Dee (20)
Impa (15)
Midna (12)
Geno (11)
Krystal (11)
Captain Toad (9)
Toad (9)
Lyn (8)
Springman (8)
King Boo (8)
Bandana Waddle Dee (7)
Ribbon Girl (7)
Dixie Kong (6)
Chibi-Robo (6)
Celica (6)
Skull Kid (6)
Cappy (6)
Hector (6)
Min Min (5)
Elma (5)
Funky Kong (5)
Rex and Pyra/Mythra (5)
Tingle (5)
Pyra (5)
Chibi Robo (5)
Dark Samus (5)
Fawful (5)
Ninten (5)
Waluigi (5)
Hades (5)
Birdo (4)
Spring man (4)
Urbosa (4)
Ephraim (4)
Chrom (4)
Tetra (4)
Mythra (4)
Isaac (Golden Sun) (4)
Zant (4)
Sylux (4)
Rex (3)
Takamaru (3)
Rex and Pyra (3)
waluigi (3)
Bandanna Dee (3)
Isaac from Golden Sun (3)
K Rool (3)
Mipha (3)
K. Rool (3)
Professor Layton (3)
Waddle Dee (3)
Vaati (3)
Viridi (3)
Shovel Knight (3)
Karate Joe (3)
Dillon (3)
Phoenix Wright (3)
Marx (3)
Goku (3)
Saki Amamiya (3)
Isabelle (3)
Slippy Toad (2)
Gengar (2)
Ganon (2)
Starfy (2)
Sidon (2)
Rex & Pyra (2)
None (2)
Reggie (2)
Sceptile (2)
Tom Nook (2)
King k rool (2)
Lycanroc (2)
ARMS (2)
Bandanna Waddle Dee (2)
Spring-Man (2)
Shy Guy (2)
Daruk (2)
Toon Ganondorf (2)
Anna (Fire Emblem) (2)
Ribbon girl (2)
King K.Rool (2)
dixie kong (2)
Mayor Pauline (2)
K.Rool (2)
king k rool (2)
Rex from XC2 (2)
bandana dee (2)
Lanky Kong (2)
Lip (2)
Issac (2)
Other (312)

Also don't let the occasional third-party throw you, this was the section for Nintendo characters.

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/84x9go/rsmashbros_smash_switch_character_survey/

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Gee, this King K. Rool guy seems pretty popular.

Not much love for my boy Sylux or Dark Samus though. At least Isaac is remembered.
 

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Hypothetical: Squirtle and Ivysaur return, and we also get Decidueye. This leaves a 2-2-1 starter split, so we also get a second Fire starter. Who would be your pick?
Fennekin or Litten
NEW QUESTION: What Nintendo character does everyone want LEAST in Smash.

Mine is ANY Pokémon RéBurst character.
Any WarioWare character; everyone in that series except for Wario and MAYBE Ashley are bland, stupid, or both.
 

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Any WarioWare character; everyone in that series except for Wario and MAYBE Ashley are bland, stupid, or both.
Ashley is the only Warioware character I want, wanted her for Smash 4, too. She's adorable and is really the only other character of interest from that series. Never really understood why so many wanted Captain Syrup tbh. If someone can give me solid reasons to want her, I'm always open to listen.
Also I just recently finished watching what has been released of Konosuba and Megumin's physical resemblance to Ashely made me want her more. Bad reason to want a character, I know. But it still gave me the "I want Ashley in Smash (Smashley)" feels.
 
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Never really understood why so many wanted Captain Syrup tbh. If someone can give me solid reasons to want her, I'm always open to listen.
If I had to wager a guess it's probably because people want the (objectively better) Wario Land games to get representation.

I'd rather Wario get a new moveset personally, but eh.
 
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This is what happens when you let people write in their suggestions. Let me know if you see any redundancies. I can only imagine how disjointed the ballot may have been. :laugh:

Waluigi (176)
King K. Rool (46)
Ridley (44)
Isaac (33)
King K Rool (30)
Spring Man (28)
Decidueye (25)
Paper Mario (24)
Rex (23)
Bandana Dee (20)
Impa (15)
Midna (12)
Geno (11)
Krystal (11)
Captain Toad (9)
Toad (9)
Lyn (8)
Springman (8)
King Boo (8)
Bandana Waddle Dee (7)
Ribbon Girl (7)
Dixie Kong (6)
Chibi-Robo (6)
Celica (6)
Skull Kid (6)
Cappy (6)
Hector (6)
Min Min (5)
Elma (5)
Funky Kong (5)
Rex and Pyra/Mythra (5)
Tingle (5)
Pyra (5)
Chibi Robo (5)
Dark Samus (5)
Fawful (5)
Ninten (5)
Waluigi (5)
Hades (5)
Birdo (4)
Spring man (4)
Urbosa (4)
Ephraim (4)
Chrom (4)
Tetra (4)
Mythra (4)
Isaac (Golden Sun) (4)
Zant (4)
Sylux (4)
Rex (3)
Takamaru (3)
Rex and Pyra (3)
waluigi (3)
Bandanna Dee (3)
Isaac from Golden Sun (3)
K Rool (3)
Mipha (3)
K. Rool (3)
Professor Layton (3)
Waddle Dee (3)
Vaati (3)
Viridi (3)
Shovel Knight (3)
Karate Joe (3)
Dillon (3)
Phoenix Wright (3)
Marx (3)
Goku (3)
Saki Amamiya (3)
Isabelle (3)
Slippy Toad (2)
Gengar (2)
Ganon (2)
Starfy (2)
Sidon (2)
Rex & Pyra (2)
None (2)
Reggie (2)
Sceptile (2)
Tom Nook (2)
King k rool (2)
Lycanroc (2)
ARMS (2)
Bandanna Waddle Dee (2)
Spring-Man (2)
Shy Guy (2)
Daruk (2)
Toon Ganondorf (2)
Anna (Fire Emblem) (2)
Ribbon girl (2)
King K.Rool (2)
dixie kong (2)
Mayor Pauline (2)
K.Rool (2)
king k rool (2)
Rex from XC2 (2)
bandana dee (2)
Lanky Kong (2)
Lip (2)
Issac (2)
Other (312)

Also don't let the occasional third-party throw you, this was the section for Nintendo characters.

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/84x9go/rsmashbros_smash_switch_character_survey/

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Oh nice, a Survey to vote! Some Micaiah love please
 
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Ashley is the only Warioware character I want, wanted her for Smash 4, too. She's adorable and is really the only other character of interest from that series. Never really understood why so many wanted Captain Syrup tbh. If someone can give me solid reasons to want her, I'm always open to listen.
Also I just recently finished watching what has been released of Konosuba and Megumin's physical resemblance to Ashely made me want her more. Bad reason to want a character, I know. But it still gave me the "I want Ashley in Smash (Smashley)" feels.
If I had to guess, its because she's a classic pirate, so having a whole moveset based on that would be cool. But she was never playable in anything, and I think a few of her fights focused on having her minions doing the dirty work. But if you've ever seen Risky Boots from Shantae being used(Or Shantae herself in Pirate's Curse) Captian Syrup would basically be that.

Her Wario Land: Shake It! design is cool though.

As for the least wanted character, I guess Kamek. I don't know why anyone wants a generic mook who's only claim to standing out is being really annoying in the Yoshi games, but he still looks like every Magikoopa. At least Bandanna Dee has some kind of visual difference and a unique weapon to standout, not that he's one of my favorites or anything. But I GET why people like him.
 

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Hypothetical: Squirtle and Ivysaur return, and we also get Decidueye. This leaves a 2-2-1 starter split, so we also get a second Fire starter. Who would be your pick?
Cyndaquill
NEW QUESTION: What Nintendo character does everyone want LEAST in Smash.

Mine is ANY Pokémon RéBurst character.
There’s almost no one that I would outright reject, but I’ll say Pauline. I don’t see the appeal as a fighter, and there’s other Mario characters higher on my list.
 

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I've been lurking since the announcement, kind of unsure if I should actually say anything. I guess with everything going on, it'd be weird of me to not at least contribute a tiny bit for the first time in... 18 months and some change. I guess it's going to be a bit of a slow burn to E3, since we didn't exactly get any kind of glimpse at gameplay. But it's always nice to see another Smash game coming around. Honestly, I wish we'd gotten at least that. Otherwise, I'd have rather just waited to see the announcement until E3. But what can you do.
 
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There’s almost no one that I would outright reject, but I’ll say Pauline. I don’t see the appeal as a fighter, and there’s other Mario characters higher on my list.
I agree with the Pauline statement. I don't feel too strongly one way or the other, I do think that she doesn't much appeal as a fighter though. But I'm sure she has her fans too.

For the Fire Pokemon thing, Blaziken all day. Dude's been my favorite Pokemon for a long time.

How hype would it be if Rashid's theme from SFV got in Smash?
Reasonably hype. But Jazzy NYC and Killing Moon gotta be in first for me.
 

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Blaziken? You mean I can kick people apart in HD in the year 2018? It's too good to be true.

I wish Blaziken was more realistic than it is. I really appreciate Blaziken.
 

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Can I just say that Star Allies is probably the worst Kirby game out there (not counting spin offs). It's so bare bones, it brings nothing new to the table, and is by far the easiest Kirby game yet. The final boss was was the only interesting part of the game.

I wouldn't mind it if we didn't get any content from it in Smash.
 

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Can I just say that Star Allies is probably the worst Kirby game out there (not counting spin offs). It's so bare bones, it brings nothing new to the table, and is by far the easiest Kirby game yet. The final boss was was the only interesting part of the game.

I wouldn't mind it if we didn't get any content from it in Smash.
oooooh boy, you just opened Pandora's Box there buddy

inb4 we get three-five full pages of Kirby talk
 
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Can I just say that Star Allies is probably the worst Kirby game out there (not counting spin offs). It's so bare bones, it brings nothing new to the table, and is by far the easiest Kirby game yet. The final boss was was the only interesting part of the game.

I wouldn't mind it if we didn't get any content from it in Smash.
Playing through it right now, I'll be the judge of that.
 

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Can I just say that Star Allies is probably the worst Kirby game out there (not counting spin offs). It's so bare bones, it brings nothing new to the table, and is by far the easiest Kirby game yet. The final boss was was the only interesting part of the game.

I wouldn't mind it if we didn't get any content from it in Smash.
You're in luck; it's a post-Sakurai Kirby game releasing the same year as Smash.
 

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Can I just say that Star Allies is probably the worst Kirby game out there (not counting spin offs). It's so bare bones, it brings nothing new to the table, and is by far the easiest Kirby game yet. The final boss was was the only interesting part of the game.

I wouldn't mind it if we didn't get any content from it in Smash.
This is a bad opinion, but an opinion you are allowed to have.

That said, fan reception seems to be pretty positive and its getting great reviews.

So, eventually we'll get some content in Smash.
 

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Don't get me wrong, Star Allies is still a good game, I would just rather be playing any other Kirby game instead. I think I'll replay some older Kirby games I haven't played in a while and see if I still feel that way.
 

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Don't get me wrong, Star Allies is still a good game, I would just rather be playing any other Kirby game instead. I think I'll replay some older Kirby games I haven't played in a while and see if I still feel that way.
Regardless of its quality...

I think it'll be better than Kirby's Dream Land.

I never knew you could be it in 20 minutes until after I played it.
 

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Regardless of its quality...

I think it'll be better than Kirby's Dream Land.

I never knew you could be it in 20 minutes until after I played it.
Kirby's Dream Land is where Dedede's theme originates so that automatically and forever puts it in top 5 GOAT.
 

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While I love any opportunity to talk about my girl Issy, one that hasn't been mentioned recently is KK Slider. He could have a sound-based moveset that incorporates the different musical instruments, DJ stuff, throwing records frisbee-style, and using the music box scallops. I haven't thought about it hard enough to come up with a well flowing moveset yet but the material's all there.
But... this doesnt reflect at all on Animal Crossing. Or even the character himself...
 

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Regardless of its quality...

I think it'll be better than Kirby's Dream Land.

I never knew you could be it in 20 minutes until after I played it.
Kirby's Dreamland is a timeless classic. Would have spent hours playing it because although short, is instantly replayable.

Also I could never beat the hard mode.

Honestly I've found the short length of many older games are easily overcome so long as they are good, because I end up replaying them a bunch.
 
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Kirby's Dreamland is a timeless classic. Would have spent hours playing it because although short, is instantly replayable.

Also I could never beat the hard mode.

Honestly I've found the short length of many older games are easily overcome so long as they are good, because I end up replaying them a bunch.
I'm usually okay with short games myself. Especially if they're older.

But 20 minutes is just... way too short.
 

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Don't get me wrong, Star Allies is still a good game, I would just rather be playing any other Kirby game instead. I think I'll replay some older Kirby games I haven't played in a while and see if I still feel that way.
Yeah, I played about 3 hours and then returned it. No need to own it when I have the two stellar Kirby 3DS games in my collection.

Nightmare in Dreamland is obviously the best game in the series.
 
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