Smash Bros Direct on April 8th, 3pm PST!!

[Aogami]

Just to point this out in case nobody else has in the direct it showcased Samurai Goroh as an AT which all but confirms C. Falcon as returning and the same with Ness what with the press release pictures showing Mr. Saturn and another Earthbound item returning.

So that would leave Jigglypuff as the last of the original 12 so I doubt that she would be the only one cut.

 

[foolssigma]

Jigglypuff and C. Falcon have yet to be shown because they will likely be unlockable as they were in Brawl. They were never shown in those games either until Sakurai went into spoiler mode post release. I'm not sure but Ness may have fallen into that category too

 

[UncleAndross]

I feel the 'too many mario reps' debate is a bit silly. Nintendo basically shares its branding with the Mario series.
The 2 are hardly distinguishable. If there is any franchise that doesn't need to deal with a limit, it's Mario. Almost every Mario character is worthy as they are synonymous with nintendo. Every Mario item or assist trophy is welcome, we don't even bother to count their inclusion.

Mario is Nintendo

 

[Luigi#1]

Somebody get a pic of the Ridley wing seen very briefly?
EDIT: It has some grey and some purple...

 

[Smash G]

I froze frame his wing. Nothing to see really. It's just the skin part. I will say it doesn't look like Meta-Ridley's wings because it doesn't have that energy-ish wave look. It looks like flesh. But I can't really tell.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

I froze frame his wing. Nothing to see really. It's just the skin part. I will say it doesn't look like Meta-Ridley's wings because it doesn't have that energy-ish wave look. It looks like flesh. But I can't really tell.

It's his tail. Somebody compared the freeze frame to Ridley's tail in Other M. Same shape, seems to match up pretty well.

 

[gamer8]

Can someone tell me which page the reactions of the direct starts?

123 is where it starts but a lot of us were glued to the screen and not posting lol

 

[Wario Bros.]

I noticed something in the Direct: Waluigi had the Wario series for his franchise symbol. This is odd for the fact he has never been in a Wario game (so the Super Mario series symbol he was sporting in Brawl makes much more sense.)

But either way, both Waluigi & Ashley makes it very clear Wario is coming back (yay).

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I noticed something in the Direct: Waluigi had the Wario series for his franchise symbol. This is odd for the fact he has never been in a Wario game (so the Super Mario series symbol he was sporting in Brawl makes much more sense.)

But either way, both Waluigi & Ashley makes it very clear Wario is coming back (yay).

Didn't Animal Crossing(and other characterless stages) have a franchise logo in Brawl? Just saying.

Not that there was ever any doubt about Wario coming back.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Didn't Animal Crossing(and other characterless stages) have a franchise logo in Brawl? Just saying.

Not that there was ever any doubt about Wario coming back.

Yes Animal Crossing had a symbol in Brawl (same with Nintendo DS & Electroplankton).

I never had doubt Wario was going to return but those 2 characters and symbol makes it much more obvious.

 

[shadowjosh]

In regards to Mario spinoff characters counting as Mario reps, I think Yoshi and Wario are completely different. Yoshi is a main character in tons of non spinoff major Mario games, plus Mario even has a major role (as a baby) in some of Yoshi's games. Yoshi is a Mario character.

Wario....is different. Wario debuted as a villain in SML2 but he hasn't really been a part of the Mario series since then outside of party/sports games. And similarly, Mario has not had a major role in Wario's games either. The Wario franchise also has a large amount of characters that are never featured in Mario games(not even spinoffs), unlike Donkey Kong or Yoshi. I think Wario has earned his franchise symbol, his franchise is unique and separate from the Mario games.

Edit: Wario was playable in Mario 64 DS, but that's still not a big deal. It's a remake.

The real question is, why isn't Mario considered a DK rep? His first appearance was in Donkey Kong

Awesome direct, I love the picture dump as well. Where's the 3DS pictures?

 

[aldelaro5]

I'm going to be very honest here I can understands that people are disappointed of some deconfirrmation or stuff that you didn't want but what I can't understand is th whole disappointment of the whole game after this direct. Really I fought that people would be happy (unless some things but mostly happy) and now it seems like people are way too negative. Geninja confirm does NOT equal mew two deconfirmed nor ibysaur and squirrel (but I'd agree except mew two, their chance decreased) so why being so mad? Ridley deconfirmation? ok yes it is implied that he actually is but still there's something we don't know and I wonder what it is. so now I wonder why don't you just look both positive AND negative?

my two cents

 

[gamer8]

well. Where's the 3DS pictures?

 

[Baskerville]

Has everyone really forgotten what trolling really is and what it means?

At this point I think people are saying it just to make themselves feel better.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I shouldn't be surprised since I'm technically a part of it myself, but damn does the mod community work fast these days.

This is just over Sheik in Brawl, by the way.

 

[Reader]

Did anybody else see the hints for Wario being playable?

I noticed that Sakurai used Wario symbol when he introduced Waluigi assist trophy and not Mario symbol. I think it is safe to assume that Wario character (most likely Wario himself) is playable. Most assist trophies without playable characters used smash bros logo (Nintendogs also had his own symbol).

My apologies if this has already been mentioned.

Edit: Looks like I got Greninja'd

 

[JesseMcCloud]

I'm stoked about Pit's updates, especially his new Final Smash. A liiiiiitle bummed it's not the Great Sacred Treasure from the final chapter of Uprising, but glad it's not just Return of the Centurions.
As it stands...

 

[Staarih]

What's the general consensus on Mega Lucario? I see many people label it as a Final Smash but to me it looks like he is lacking the "shine" of the Smash Ball. Then again, the footage of him is pretty short. But maybe mega evolution will be triggered some other way? Dunno.

Anyway, I liked the general idea of someone regarding mega evolutions that we'd get a normal mega evolution (Lucario), an X-exclusive one (Charizard) and Y-exclusive one (Mewtwo). We'll see.

 

[HeroOfClocktown]

Hi guys, this is my first post here.

I noticed people were commenting on the small scene with what was a hint towards Ridley - I managed to get a screenshot of the "Wing" or "Tail" people are talking about. I can't quite make out what it is, but it is the best screenshot I can get. I paused about 100 times to get this somewhat clear shot.

Make what you will of it. It seems too thin to be a wing, but if it's his tail - I think we can confirm that he won't be playable, considering that only his tail is taking up such a big part of the screen.

 

[Starphoenix]

So, what are we missing?

JC Rodrigo @JCDotface
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If you didn't see the Smash Bros. Direct: http://youtu.be/7xUWnQu2Grs. Also, you guys are missing a few things. Look closer.

12:56 PM - 9 Apr 2014

http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225879-...ay-s-smash-bros-direct-is-hiding-a-few-things

Please don't make me watch all forty mins again.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

Mega Lucario sounds more like a new mechanic for Lucario instead of a Final Smash. The way Sakurai phrases it makes it sound more like a permanent change rather than a temporary buff. The footage with Mega Lucario also doesn't have the darkened backgrounds and he doesn't have the glowing eyes or final smash aura.

Not as sure with Megazard. He doesn't have the glowing eye or aura either, but both the shots with him have the darkened background, which does imply it's a final smash, but there could easily just be someone else with a smash ball.

 

[Luigi#1]

So, what are we missing?
http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225879-...ay-s-smash-bros-direct-is-hiding-a-few-things

Please don't make me watch all forty mins again.

I'll be glad to watch that hype fest if my internet wasn't crap.

EDIT: What happened to the happy hype...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So, what are we missing?
http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225879-...ay-s-smash-bros-direct-is-hiding-a-few-things

Please don't make me watch all forty mins again.

Well...

This means two things.

They're watching us speculate.

And that we're missing something important. What could it be? It can't be a small thing for him to mention it.

 

[Luigi#1]

Don't fail us Gamexplain!

 

[Holder of the Heel]

No transformations from Brawl had the Final Smash aura nor does Giga Mac, implied to be the Final Smash for Little Mac (they were showing off the Final Smashes of the newcomers). In addition the video ended with the two Mega transformations paired with what is clearly Greninja's Final Smash, which we can take as a pretty clear hint.

 

[Inawordyes]

So we're missing something, eh? It can't be Ridley or Palutena. Possibly the fact that it looks like the Mechonis (Xenoblade) is a 3DS stage in one of ZSS's site pics? But that isn't in the Direct... Hmm, Kremlings = K. Rool? That's been talked about, as well as Bandana Dee's chances going up, Isaac's AT absence, Wii Fit TRAINERS being plural now, lack of female Villager, the Namco items possibly lending to a Namco character = Pac-man. I haven't seen anybody talk about the lack of Shadow or any Sonic AT, though. Somebody in the GoNintendo page comments also said they saw something that was enormous but didn't want to outright spoil it (but hinted towards it being either during the showing of the Balloon Fight stage or around that time-frame in the video).

 

[Wario Bros.]

Don't fail us Gamexplain!

This covers the Greninja part of the Direct. Now GameXplain need to do the other 36 minutes and 36 seconds of the Smash Direct.

 

[Finalefireworker]

I hope the Balloon Fight thing that is supposedly "huge" isn't that the stage doesn't have side KOs.

 

[YeppersPeppers]

I found something. Not sure if anyone else caught it. Dragoon Pieces return.

 

[Malcolm Belmont]

Had a feeling the Dragoon Pieces were returning..i loved knowing them out of the other charcters

 

[Nintendotard]

I found something. Not sure if anyone else caught it. Dragoon Pieces return.

Great eye buddy!

 

[MopedOfJustice]

[Given that paranoia-inducing "tip" from that guy] I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that they hid a vet or even a newcomer in the Direct somewhere. Not just hinting, but literally showing the character or something a little less Direct than that, like an audio clip of, say, the "Kick" in "Falcon Kick."

We need someone to go frame-by-frame when the four projectiles and Mario are all rushing at Charizard. A lot of ground is covered there.

 

[Mysteltainn]

I found something. Not sure if anyone else caught it. Dragoon Pieces return.

Nice catch there.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Someone mentioned something big being in the Balloon Fight stage area and I didn't detect anything after pausing over and over frame by frame in that area.

Is anyone sure that Cranky is still in Jungle Japes? What if Cranky's missing from Jungle Japes?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Doesn't it seem odd that when Waluigi was mentioned, he had the logo that represented Wario's franchise. He's not even in any of Wario's games.

 

[peachy!]

I hope the Balloon Fight thing that is supposedly "huge" isn't that the stage doesn't have side KOs.

The stage had its own logo as well instead of the Smash Bros. series icon. Then again, so did the Living Room, Find Mii, and Pilotwings stages.

ETA: Diddy Kong’s Brawl art is displayed every time he is shown in battle.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

In regards to Mario spinoff characters counting as Mario reps, I think Yoshi and Wario are completely different. Yoshi is a main character in tons of non spinoff major Mario games, plus Mario even has a major role (as a baby) in some of Yoshi's games. Yoshi is a Mario character.

Wario....is different. Wario debuted as a villain in SML2 but he hasn't really been a part of the Mario series since then outside of party/sports games. And similarly, Mario has not had a major role in Wario's games either. The Wario franchise also has a large amount of characters that are never featured in Mario games(not even spinoffs), unlike Donkey Kong or Yoshi. I think Wario has earned his franchise symbol, his franchise is unique and separate from the Mario games.

Edit: Wario was playable in Mario 64 DS, but that's still not a big deal. It's a remake.

The real question is, why isn't Mario considered a DK rep? His first appearance was in Donkey Kong

Awesome direct, I love the picture dump as well. Where's the 3DS pictures?

Wario has, but Donkey Kong hasn't?

When is the last time a mario enemy appeared in a mario game or vice versa

Except spin off sports games, and the likes

Not to mention the Donkey Kong name has been a major seller, while Wario hasn't

 

[VhatDeHel]

Someone mentioned something big being in the Balloon Fight stage area and I didn't detect anything after pausing over and over frame by frame in that area.

Is anyone sure that Cranky is still in Jungle Japes? What if Cranky's missing from Jungle Japes?

Yeah I just checked, pretty sure he is still there.

On a sidenote, the part with Sonic and Mario fighting on the Halberd, I previously noticed Mario airdodging out of hitstun, but this time I noticed, after Sonic's backair, he airdodges out of hitstun.....AND his momentum comes to a halt until he starts coming back to the stage....

Ugh, PLEASE do not tell me that momentum canceling is coming back D:

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Yeah I just checked, pretty sure he is still there.

On a sidenote, the part with Sonic and Mario fighting on the Halberd, I previously noticed Mario airdodging out of hitstun, but this time I noticed, after Sonic's backair, he airdodges out of hitstun.....AND his momentum comes to a halt until he starts coming back to the stage....

Ugh, PLEASE do not tell me that momentum canceling is coming back D:

So both hit stun and momentum canceling may be coming back?

****ing lame bro...

 

[Plain Yogurt]

[Given that paranoia-inducing "tip" from that guy] I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that they hid a vet or even a newcomer in the Direct somewhere. Not just hinting, but literally showing the character or something a little less Direct than that, like an audio clip of, say, the "Kick" in "Falcon Kick."

We need someone to go frame-by-frame when the four projectiles and Mario are all rushing at Charizard. A lot of ground is covered there.

Maybe its like Furfrou in one of the Pokemon trailers where it had only a frame or two of screen time before it was revealed!