manhunter098
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I completely forgot about that one too. You get someone to about 40 and hit em with it, dead.What about Wario waft, it kills at low-ish percents
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I completely forgot about that one too. You get someone to about 40 and hit em with it, dead.What about Wario waft, it kills at low-ish percents
Luigi? since when does he have solid air game/ recovory?Im thinking lugi for #8
Wtf? More like omglmao than wtf.Well I think a bike falling on top of you and killing you qualifies as a definite wtf moment.
o, my lmited knowledge told me that luigi's air game sucks.HUgglebunny, Luigi's airgame is viscious
Nair is probably the best in the game with huge combo potential, low lag, great speed, and power that hardly weakens as the sex kick stays out.
His fair is a powerful get outta my face type move
Dair is also powerful
Uair has huge range and can sned people off the stage
And yes, Luigi's recovery is good, but I get pissed when something ***s my recovery that shouldn't have.
Luigi is a good candidate also.
I don't know, i thought luigi was a pretty bad character (super nerfed from melee cuz of loss of wavedashing) untill i got burned right know **above**But is Luigi really underestimated? He kinda seems like an auto-awesome character.
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no, i think they're just covering all the characters that appear to be high/top tier, if it were a tier list snake would be the first postI think this is a tier list, going from top to bottom, they are going from best guys to gradually worse... just my opinion though.
It's wario btw.
Good point bout the powerfulness, he does have good speed in his aerial gamelol sorry, I wasn't trying to hurt you
BTW, what I meant by "powerful" doesn't necessarily mean super strong. I mean a good ratio of speed and strength to his aerials.
see, he has a solid b attack (and a major digestion problem)I completely forgot about that one too. You get someone to about 40 and hit em with it, dead.
Because a reflector is bad against projectiles?Wait, think it's Zelda actually, all her airs can kill, and only her side b is good against spammers.
That's the only part I'm wondering about, the rest is pretty much zelda, or my second guess is pikachu :/It could be zamus I think. She's got a pretty nice aireal game, and she does have some problems with projectile spmmers. And of course, tether recoveries are very gimpable(although her down b can mix things up a bit)
Because a reflector is bad against projectiles?
have you not seen the heated debate going on here about luigi or wario?the first half of the hint screamed dk, but dk does not have a limited ground game, and does not mind projectile spammers too much, i'd say wario, wario has a limited ground game, but the best aerial gamein the game, going off of tournament results he is clearly either top tier, or the top of high tier, but everyone seems to think he's mid tier. uair and fart are great killing moves too
The second half of Snakes "essay" was the person critsizing him. MK had like 2 sentences of that.no, i think they're just covering all the characters that appear to be high/top tier, if it were a tier list snake would be the first post
But see, Wario's problems are that he lacks the powerful aerials that kill you very early. He really only has his uair, and his second most powerful aerial, his bair, only kills around 150ish
His ground game does seem mediocre though, but I dont see how his recovery is easily gimped. It's possible, but I wouldnt call it easy.
As a Wario, Luigi, and Ness player, I'd have to say Luigi and Ness fit the bill better than Wario.
I agree with the posts regarding luigi and wario, both have sick aerial games and a B move to approach (downb, sideb respectively). But I don't think Ness is gonna be it. PK Thunder has limited uses against spammers and is by no means spammable, if anything PK Fire would be the better option. Oh, and describing Ness's recovery as being 'fine sometimes' is way too generous. His recovery is near abysmal.Next week's character will be a fun one to talk about. Underestimated by many, this character has a devastating aerial game that will surprise you when it takes you out at a low percent. But on the ground this character doesn't have very many options against long range or projectile spamming characters other than one of their B attacks. And this character's recovery can be fine sometimes, but against smart opponents this character can be gimped quite easily.
what does that have to do with him being likely top tier?The second half of Snakes "essay" was the person critsizing him. MK had like 2 sentences of that.
He can b-air you into some stages for a stage spike (excellent aerial control allows this to work relatively well). He can drop his bike on you for a nice gimp, he can f-air you to gimp recovery too, and he can u-air you at higher percents for a more standard kill. Thats more than enough options for aerial kills and he does them pretty effectively, plus the bike is pretty much an instant kill if it hits, since you get dragged down with it.Ness' recovery is not THAT bad. You act like eaten thunder happens every time Ness gets knocked off.
And how many times have I said this?
WARIO HAS ONLY 1 AERIAL KILL MOVE!!!
The TC was obviously referring to a few at least.
Jiggs recovery is in no way gimpable. Her aerials dont kill at low percents unless you count pushing someone off screen with the WoP killing power, but I think SamuraiPanda is talking about heavy knockback aerials.
Abysmal in relative terms. Characters with worse recoveries than Ness: Olimar, Ivysaur, Link, maybe Ganon, Bowser and Mario( all debatable). Characters with better recoveries than Ness: Everyone else.Ness' recovery is not THAT bad. You act like eaten thunder happens every time Ness gets knocked off.
His uair is devastating, I think you need to give more credit to the bair. Not to mention (as most people already have), the Waft. But I'm not really arguing for him.And how many times have I said this?
WARIO HAS ONLY 1 AERIAL KILL MOVE!!! The TC was obviously referring to a few at least.
Have you checked her fair lately? Her fair (along with her uair) gained MASSIVE knockback since melee, so while they're worse for combos and escorting, they are MUCH better for star KO's. Not to mention her Rest, which most of the time is going to be used while jiggly is approaching through the air. And if I'm not mistaken, pound now packs quite a punch as well.Jiggs recovery is in no way gimpable. Her aerials dont kill at low percents unless you count pushing someone off screen with the WoP killing power, but I think SamuraiPanda is talking about heavy knockback aerials.
Eh, I guess I've always interpreted gimping as including off the map defensive play, not just edgehogging at the right moments or spamming projectiles. I've always thought of G&W using his bucket against Lucas's and Ness's PK thunder (not a personal attack at all, btw) as like the definition of gimping. But I could be wrong, everyone's got their own definitions. Which is part of the reason why these 'hints' are so god**** vague.Being hit out of recovery is not gimping, more of just proper edgegurding
Totally agreed. Naryu's Love bounces most projectiles except Din's Fire I think, but that's kind of a strange projectile anyway.After that update there is no way that its Zelda anymore. Her neutral B stops projectile spam.
UGH.Thanks for admitting you have no idea what you're talking about.