Smash 4 Social Thread 3.0

[Jaedrik]

Wow. . .
Melee truly is a masterpiece.
It is one of the most well designed games that has ever existed.
It has an incredibly complex architecture with rich adornment
It should be in the Smithsonian's video games section.
I'm not joking.
There's no way that a game could survive this long without such an inherent and apparent beauty.
I do mean beauty, it epitomizes the competitive spirit and expression of style.
The Big House 4.

 

[Sil]

What's the best character to use in Trophy Rush? I haven't really played in that mode much.

Fox is pretty good, just keep to the edges, spam his blaster, and dodge when necessary.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Hoping to get my online mode up and running tomorrow so that I can start playing against actual people. I get bored of CPUs so quickly...

So far trying to get used to some of my Brawl mains that have changed a bit, mostly King Dedede. I'm still almost as good with Captain Falcon as I was with him in Brawl among others, since he was one of my better characters there and he hasn't changed much in this installment, the only thing that's holding me back is the totally different control scheme of the 3DS which I'm still not really used to yet.

Also trying to get better with a few newcomers, mostly Greninja, Shulk, and the Villager.

 

[Ffamran]

Rival Smash is officially the worst mode ever.
The match says I got 57 kills, counts 38.

???

It's counting how many kills you have over your rival. I got 16 kills with Little Mac - I think I suicided with Jolt Haymaker, again... - and my rival got 6. So, I have 10 over my rival and that's my score.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Place first in Smash Run final battles with all fighters.


This game wants my tears.

 

[Soul.]

Wow. . .
Melee truly is a masterpiece.
It is one of the most well designed games that has ever existed.
It has an incredibly complex architecture with rich adornment
It should be in the Smithsonian's video games section.
I'm not joking.
There's no way that a game could survive this long without such an inherent and apparent beauty.
I do mean beauty, it epitomizes the competitive spirit and expression of style.
The Big House 4.

So Melee > Smash Wii U then?

 

[Deleted member]

So Melee > Smash Wii U then?

If it's better than Smash Wii U, does that not also mean that it is better than Smash 3DS since they are technically the same game?

 

[Kenith]

If it's better than Smash Wii U, does that not also mean that it is better than Smash 3DS since they are technically the same game?

They are not the same game, technically or not.

 

[Soul.]

If it's better than Smash Wii U, does that not also mean that it is better than Smash 3DS since they are technically the same game?

To be honest I don't know. I was comparing Melee and the Wii U version because they are console games.

 

[Deleted member]

They are not the same game, technically or not.

From a stage and content standpoint, sure. But from a roster and gameplay standpoint, they are the same.

To be honest I don't know. I was comparing Melee and the Wii U version because they are console games.

You were just looking for a reason to make fun of the Wii U

 

[Soul.]

You were just looking for a reason to make fun of the Wii U

I suppose.

 

[Deleted member]

So Melee > Smash Wii U then?

Because No Items, Fox Only, Final Destination is better than No Items, Bowser Only, Battlefield?

 

[Sil]

Rival Smash is officially the worst mode ever.
The match says I got 57 kills, counts 38.

???

That means you 38 more KOs than the rival.

Rival Smash is so stupid. Because the game only ends when you get KOed, you can just kill yourself when you have enough KOs and still win. And if you KO the rival, all you get is a few more KOs, and he gets to respawn. Basically he can KO you, but you can't KO him.

It is a good idea, but has terrible execution. What they should have done is instead of ending the game when you get KOed, there should be a time limit, and allow both of you to respawn, at the cost of a couple KOs and whoever has the most KOs at the end wins. Not only would this make much more sense, but it would also make some of those challenges a lot easier. (I don't even want to think about getting 50 KOs in that mode...) /endrant

...I'm pretty sure that is most I've ever typed out 'KO'.

 

[The-Power-Within]

Man, Mac is a truly broken character.

Sure, he has terrible recovery, but what happens if he doesn't fall off the stage? He can spam punches which feel impossible to block (at least for me anyway), he's got fast speed and to top it all off he has that one hit K.O. move. :/

 

[Kenith]

That means you 38 more KOs than the rival.
Rival Smash is so stupid. Because the game only ends when you get KOed, you can just kill yourself when you have enough KOs and still win. And if you KO the rival, all you get is a few more KOs, and he gets to respawn. Basically he can KO you, but you can't KO him.
It is a good idea, but has terrible execution. What they should have done is instead of ending the game when you get KOed, there should be a time limit, and allow both of you to respawn, at the cost of a couple KOs and whoever has the most KOs at the end wins. Not only would this make much more sense, but it would also make some of those challenges a lot easier. (I don't even want to think about getting 50 KOs in that mode...) /endrant

I'm pretty sure that is most I've ever typed out' KO'.

They should've just made the rivals NOT ABLE TO DAMAGE EACH OTHER.
Never have I been killed by anything but my rival. Meanwhile I kill her and get two seconds to act before she comes back.

 

[Jaedrik]

So Melee > Smash Wii U then?

In all seriousness, gameplay wise, by far. And I mean this with all the love to the Smash community as a whole as possible.
I'd even go so far as to say it is one of the greatest competitive game of all time, right up there with Brood War, CS 1.6, and Street Fighter 3rd Strike. AND MAHVEL BAYBEE
We should celebrate this as brothers and sisters of a common heritage of heroes and legends.

Hah, I just realized I usually type something like this up after a huge tournament.

 

[SmashXX]

I feel this is the appropriate thread to post these videos I found yesterday, I had to increase my post count just to post these links.
I found the first one to be the funniest.

No items, Fox only, Final Destination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1pCGa_423o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a93xhGzgXvo

 

[Jaedrik]

Man, Mac is a truly broken character.

Sure, he has terrible recovery, but what happens if he doesn't fall off the stage? He can spam punches which feel impossible to block (at least for me anyway), he's got fast speed and to top it all off he has that one hit K.O. move. :/

Well, I know that DK has a huge edge on him because he can cargo him off the stage. Plus, if you can do a pivot back air with most characters then you're guaranteed that he won't be coming back to the stage. :D
And any character that can camp him out will win. If anyone can outzone him, then they win I suppose. C. Falc. and Sheik will go in on him in the air.

And yeah, Rival Smash is horrible >:|

 

[Ffamran]

Man, Mac is a truly broken character.

Sure, he has terrible recovery, but what happens if he doesn't fall off the stage? He can spam punches which feel impossible to block (at least for me anyway), he's got fast speed and to top it all off he has that one hit K.O. move. :/

It was the same deal with Ike back in the day. You just need to learn to read him and fight with a mindset of a boxer which you can apply to any character. Look for openings no matter how small. Also, Little Mac only has two "ranged" moves and they're easy to read. One is the Straight Lunge which has so many openings and the other is Jolt Haymaker which you can dodge and let Little Mac fly off to his doom.

A bad Little Mac will spam moves which is workable since he can follow up fast and it'd be like button-mashing in Tekken or Street Fighter. Spamming moves means repetition and repetition means tons of easy reads. Always dash attacking? Side step and counter.

A good Little Mac will take the boxer mindset. He'll let you waste your time attacking while he counters and looks for openings. Once he's got one, he'll KO you like no tomorrow. It was how I played as Ike back then in Brawl. I let opponents come to me and I hit back hard, but I had to time it well since Ike was slow. Little Mac gives you more room since he attacks fast, but leave him in the air and he's screwed.

A character with a Counter move can destroy a Little Mac who's spamming moves. I tried to rush-down Lucina to unlock her and it didn't work out well. So, I switched and played defensively. Let's just say it was fun to catch her off-guard.

In Multi-Man and stuff like that, I'll rush, but if it's against higher level CPU and human players, I'll probably take a more defensive route. Knowing Little Mac's poor air game and recovery along with Jolt Haymaker suicides, I try to stay in the center as much as possible. That lets me kept a fair distance between people and away from off-staging.

 

[Morbi]

Man, Mac is a truly broken character.

Sure, he has terrible recovery, but what happens if he doesn't fall off the stage? He can spam punches which feel impossible to block (at least for me anyway), he's got fast speed and to top it all off he has that one hit K.O. move. :/

Little Mac is totally broken because he has such an overt and exploitable weakness! That one hit K.O. move that is not really a one hit K.O. move gets me every time. The whole cast is secretly broken since most of them have a strength and a weakness. How do you keep Villager off the stage? How I ask?! What about Rosalina's Luma? That is not fair, everyone should have a buddy to help them out!

 

[Ffamran]

Little Mac is totally broken because he has such an overt and exploitable weakness! That one hit K.O. move that is not really a one hit K.O. move gets me every time. The whole cast is secretly broken since most of them have a strength and a weakness. How do you keep Villager off the stage? How I ask?! What about Rosalina's Luma? That is not fair, everyone should have a buddy to help them out!

Have your pick; any you like... DAMN YOU DRAGON'S DOGMA INNKEEPERS! I CAN'T STOP HEARING THAT!

 

[R0Y]

Can't wait to smash up my old GC controllers a third time. Not my favourite controller and lacks a fe feautres but it just feels right for Smash. I hope I can buy the adapter standalone at retail, I don't need another controller.

 

[Sil]

"Obtain all custom outfits, headgear, and special moves."

Kill me.

 

[Morbi]

"Obtain all custom outfits, headgear, and special moves."

Kill me.

At least we know that that challenge does not unlock a custom outfit, hat, or special move!

 

[Jaedrik]

So, I did 9.0 by spamming Bowser's nair and getting all hits on Master dude.
That thing does like 37 damage fresh when they all hit, and it's mad fast.

 

[mimgrim]

92 moves unlocked...

5 years later...

132 moves unlocked...

But seriously, third day and only 92 moves unlocked. These things are a pain to unlock.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Smash Run helps with custom specials. Play as the character you need customs for for a higher chance of getting that character's customs. It's hard because I have so much fun with Palutena in there. Bowser isn't bad either, and it's hilarious seeing him move fast.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

oh jesus was just in a match with a ness player and it was so laggy it made me wanna puke

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm going to a restaurant called "BJ's" tomorrow and get a Pumpkin Ale Float and some Aki Poke

Than later I'm going to get me some Hawaiian BBQ.

Probably stop by Barnes and Nobles sometime in between

 

[Jords2Good]

Man, Mac is a truly broken character.

Sure, he has terrible recovery, but what happens if he doesn't fall off the stage? He can spam punches which feel impossible to block (at least for me anyway), he's got fast speed and to top it all off he has that one hit K.O. move. :/

Trust me, he is not. Its so easy to get him. He can't last long at high percentage. Once he's out of his range he is done.

Not even his side b can go that far.

 

[mimgrim]

Smash Run is the worst mode to use for unlocking moves... Classic, Target Blast, and Trophy Rush are far better and more consistent. And I just don't like Smash Run is general anyway. They're just a pain to unlock because you also have to deal with equipment and you can win moves you have already unlocked.

 

[JamesDNaux]

I just got three kills in Cruel Smash with Dark Lord Ganondorf.

Had to brute force it because of the smarter AI.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I just got three kills in Cruel Smash with Dark Lord Ganondorf.

Had to brute force it because of the smarter AI.

Too bad there's a challenge to KO 4 of them.

 

[Kenith]

I just got three kills in Cruel Smash with Dark Lord Ganondorf.
Had to brute force it because of the smarter AI.

Getting that 4 kills in Cruel Smash was relatively easy for me.
Miis have no recovery (they don't even try) + Lucina's Counter.
4 kills instantly.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Too bad there's a challenge to KO 4 of them.

Well, well... I got three kills at once with a single forward smash.

And then got blasted away.

 

[Yonder]

Smash Run is the worst mode to use for unlocking moves... Classic, Target Blast, and Trophy Rush are far better and more consistent. And I just don't like Smash Run is general anyway. They're just a pain to unlock because you also have to deal with equipment and you can win moves you have already unlocked.

Ironically for unlocking stuff I'd go Trophy Rush>Smash Run>Classic>All Star [Haven't played enough target blast yet]

Anyways, despite my heart feeling it was mashed with a mallet yesterday...this comic made me laugh. http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=313

Ok, back to studying, working out, and finding new love...

 

[mimgrim]

I've been getting the best results with classic mode. I consistently get at least 1, but usually 2-3, new move per run of it.Trophy Rush keeps giving me ones I already have or things other then moves. And I only ever get 2-4 custom breakables when playing it anywa, compared to the people who get like 8 somehow. Target Blast you can only ever get one custom symbol at a time and have to hope it is a move. But it's super easy and you just have to reset the game until a custom target appears. I go to it when I get tired of doing the other ones for moves.

I haven't had any luck with Smash Run and I find the enemies to be too much of an annoyance.

 

[Ffamran]

Trust me, he is not. Its so easy to get him. He can't last long at high percentage. Once he's out of his range he is done.

Not even his side b can go that far.

His Side Special, Jolt Haymaker, is pitiful in the air. Every time I use it in the air and die, I think, "Well, damn. Captain Falcon would have survived that. So would Ganondorf, pre-SSB4 Bowser, and... EVERYONE ELSE!"

Every time I'm in the air with Little Mac, I feel like the only thing I can do is: A. Give up or B. Desperately try to recover, but die sadly, pathetically, pitifully, and embarrassingly. Everyone else gets to: C. Recover, D. Take them with you, E. Fight in the air, or F. Tether recover if they can.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

Challenges are taking a while for me to do. I beat Classic, 10 Man, and 100 Man with everyone. I beat Classic on intensity of 9.0 on my second try. I probably would have lost if Ness's Psi Magnet didn't absorb the projectiles from the sword form. That healed a lot of damage. I just finished the first two rows of All-Star. Will finish the rest before I get to Smash Run. After that is just playing Smash as much as I want until I happen to get the other challenges.

 

[themagicalcake]

Does anyone have a strategy to get 50 in rival smash? Best I could get was 42.