ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
yeah lets totally ignore everything else.You can camp on any map... Hi norfair! Hi distant planet! Hi Planking!
And when was planking a stage?
Its true you can camp on any map, however, several stages make camping that much more difficult to deal with.
norfair being an example, disant planet,not so much.
you mak e it sound like the user has a choice in the amtter. They don't.The fact that it was banned because of what you could do with the walk-off was sort of... implied? Any character is capable of b-throwing you off the stage, the distance between yourself and the edge simply varies from character to character. How does that make the map unviable? Don't get grabbed near an edge? You're as dumb for falling for that as you are for getting CGed off the stage on delfino/castle siege. These reasons alone do not warrant an absolute ban.
you're not forced to try and get close to TL?
To ROB?
Olimar?
Snake?
Link
Falco?
Samus?
its a rather large list so you now where I am going with this.
It isn't that people fall for it, its that they have no choice.
How is that subjective? Logic dictates that we should treat everything fairly and upon the same criterias. That is what I am doing.[/quote\]
By stating that reasoning for banning DDD's infinites are the same for wall infinites? Even though the reasons were different?
I would still be against it.I don't think a ban is warranted because I believe 15% is high enough of a threshold for us to do something about it. What I believe is that YOU setting up such a threshold and claiming that these characters don't matter because they're not a majority IS subjective. Again, until you have a decent argument against my first point, you cannot touch this. Why enforce rules to prevent some characters to be infinited, but not the others? Where and how do you draw a line and state that "ok, enough characters have been taken care of, the rest can just eat dirt".
If it affected 49% of the cast, would you still be against it? (Hey, it's not a majority after all!)
Again doesn't break the game. Doesn't force overcentralizing, you have the other half of characters to counter it.
how did I say NOT counter your argument?
You yourself are implying that an infinite affecting 5 characters is enough to warrant a ban. is that not subjective?
is it not factual that EVERYTHING that has been banned is due to the fact that it affects the great majority of the cast?
if you can bring up 3 instances of something being banned without the fact that it affected the great majority, I'll change my mind and I'll secede my argument and agree to a ban.
You can choose any competitive game.
Caause you totally saw the part where I mention overcentralizing and a "do this or lose" issue right?So its ok to prevent it against a part of the cast, which you choose arbitrarily, but not the other? Again, that does not make any sense and does not follow logical reasoning.
Now i think you re just blatantly ignoring several parts of my posts.
Again the differnce is that DDD's infinite does not affect the great majority of the cast. the game doesnt become "do this or lose" when you pick DDD. It does not break competitiveness.
Wall infinites did.