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When would you need them? If it's not even your secondary, it will most likely be underdeveloped, so you may just end up throwing away matches with them.
Well maybe "need" is a bad word. But so much character talk revolves around spacies. Especially Fox with the whole "20XX, Fox only, no items, Final Destination". The characters that you see winning tournaments or represented the most are Fox and Falco. And it seemed like everyone has their main but are also known to have a good Fox or Falco.
In melee, there is enough global skill that can be transferred from character to character that good players will be good with pretty much any character - especially ones that are as fun as spacies. The fact that they have good secondaries is not just because they practiced them, it's also because those players are very good at the game.
Mango went Fox & Falco for many tournies. Hbox has now Fox as secondary and has been doing extremely well.
HBox said in an Evo interview he was never going to use his Fox again IIRC.
That doesn't negates the fact that he did well in CEO and Evo.
Yeah but where is your evidence that HBox did well because of his secondary? He won game 1 vs armada at CEO because he caught him off guard. He then proceeded to lose the next 5 games with his fox, and at EVO he went 0-2 with spacies against armada.
That's awesome that you made it out to a smash fest! I hope you enjoyed it. In any case, you will just have to play and learn for yourself. The game is very, very deep. Spacies are fun to play and they are strong characters, so naturally many people will play them.
I think you forgot Peach and jiggs. Oh and Falcon and icies. And what about a few others? Alot of characters can win tournaments. But for the big ones I'd stick to top 10 tier list
Spoken like someone who's never played one of Peach or Jiggs' terrible matchups.
I used to play Peach in tournaments and it went pretty well even against some spacies. And also, I've seen tournaments of 60-70 people being won by a Link so don't be so quick to dismiss the top 16 characters
It's necessary if you don't play a top tier mister.
Too bad there are more "exceptions" than there are instances of spacies winning nationals... Mango dominated the Melee scene with Puff, and Armada went undefeated for a long time as Peach, so to suggest that non-spacies winning tournaments is rare can only be from ignorance. Not to mention the King of Smash himself maining Marth.
Whatever, dude. Mango and Armada sold out for good reason: the metagame caught up to them and now those characters suck. A jiggs player has to be so much unbelievably better than a Fox player to win the match that that one matchup pretty much renders Jiggs non-viable to solo in a tournament, especially because Fox is by far the most used character.
imo, unless you play a spacie, in almost every situation it's probably both. I recently started playing Falco for exactly this reason: I hate losing for any reason other than "I didn't play as well as the other guy". It's harder to be distracted by johning when you simply have no legitimate johns.
