MK26
Smash Master
damn dude your points are awesome
i hope the bbr takes a serious look at the stuff you're bringing up
i hope the bbr takes a serious look at the stuff you're bringing up
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wow i just saw this for the first time BY CHANCE. this should have a link to this thread be posted in every character board as hardly any1 comes in here and it is a MAJOR ISSUE.
here is why i am anti-ban.
so far the main arguements i see in the OP are he has infinites on everycharacter in the game, that items break competitive play, he has more national wins than MK, and that M2K says he should banned. so in order my responses are:
1. he has infinites on everycharacter in the game. however so do iceclimbers. while on can argue that these aren't on the same level since diddy can always pull out a banana but you can't get NANA back, that it's okay to ban diddy. however wouldn't it be better to just put tighter restrictions on all infinites instead of take a perfectly beatable character out of the game.
also before i continue i want to say that im against banning any character, so when i use that as an example, know that it is just an example.
also, it was pointed out that the fact that it takes tech skill out the wazoo shouldn't be taken into consideration. well then, has every1 forgotten that every character also has an infinite on diddy as well? it was proven that, while ridiculously hard to perform, every character can perform the footstool infinte or variations of it (i referance zss's infinite on him for this).
and on the note that diddy is unbeatable with 2 bananas on the field, i call bs. plenty characters have several options to deal with bananas. pit, falco, fox, wolf, all have reflectors which make banana play far more limited. also these characters (as can any other) can use bananas against diddy to their great advantage. since i main pit, ill use him for example. when pit has a banana, he can play keep away with it and diddy is then far limited as to being able to fight back. all i have to do is get 1 banana and i can effectively camp, comb, and kill him. i can even set up the infinite him out of glide toss since pit's glide toss is a natural dribble and if he isn't quick or rolls wrong, bam i can now infinite him. the ability to infinite diddy is one of the reasons he is not considered near bannable in japan. oh and just for referance MK has the easiest and most effective footstool lock as he can catch the banana with uair instead of z-catching.
2. items break competitive play. well wario can produce a bike and tires on command. these are indisputably items. also rob can produce the gyro, which again is indisputably an item, as are link and toon link's bombs. are we to say these characters should be banned because they have these items too? of course not. just because items are banned in general, character items have always been accepted as part of the game. plus, the arguement one item is more broken than another and thus should be banned is exactly like saying that one character is more broken than any other and should be banned. as we placed lgls to stop gay plank time outs, we could easily place an item hit limit to stop time outs. people need to learn to beat the item game on this character instead of just being lazy.
3. on the more wins at nationals than MK, may i remind you guys M2K was banned from that tourney? and didn't attend several other diddy won tourneys. just because diddy has a great ground control, this is like saying ban mk becaus of tornado and shuttle loop and no disadvantages, ban DDD's chaingrab because he gets to much free ground control damage, ban ice-climbers chaingrabs because it just takes one grab, or ban snake because he is just so broken. learn to deal with diddy. people complain because he is more obscure in many regions and new comers to him are overwhelmed due to lack of practice, that is all.
4. M2K said diddy is unbeatable with 2 bananas. if this was true, gnes or adhd would have won whobo recently. but they didn't. ally won USING METAKNIGHT AND SNAKE. thus that goes to show that metaknight and other characters are perfectly capable of beating diddy. don't let diddy's own brokeness make you forget that without diddy on the scene, we not only lose our dignity as smashers by banning a perfectly beatable character, we leave leave ourselves no counter character metaknight besides supposedly pika and falco.
lastly, on the whole diddy's best stages are neutrals, so? metaknight has no bad stages. the supposedly gay stages like RC and brinstar are not just there because of diddy. don't forget about iceclimbers, DDD, and falco. these stages are there to help fight them too. people complain that diddy's best stage is FD. well it's iceclimbers too. just make it your stage ban against them. personally as a pit main im fine with going against diddy at FD since i can out camp him and glide toss him into combos all the way accross the stage. and if my mid tier character can find a niche, just like mk or falco or any other characters that don't have a real problem fighting diddy, then the fact that this is being considered makes me lose faith in the smash community. i can guarentee that a lot of people will stop going to tourney's if this goes through as well.
trollnote: how is diddy being considered bannable over MK
(don't let the troll note fool you, the rest of this post is 100% serious)
I think this is fair, as long as diddy kong (and only diddy) gets a banana throw limit.How about a compromise? Instead of banning Diddy Kong, set bananas to VERY HIGH on the item list for every competitve match. That way everyone has them!
My only concern is what happens if someone uses Diddy and accidentally pulls out the banana. Then uses the banana without thinking, which can lead to issues. To make matters worse, what happens if the Diddy player tried to use a banana on a noob player when the noob player isn't aware about the Diddy ban rule?I think this is fair, as long as diddy kong (and only diddy) gets a banana throw limit.
We should limit the amount of back airs he can use per match too.Don't ban Diddy.
Just allow him to only pull (1) banana at a time. If he pulls (2), - automatic disqualification.
More like I'm still angry that we're actually going to ban him.I'm still angry we're even considering this
I'm surprised too.It's not a joke. This is serious business. Vote now!
Yes (For, Straight, American)
No (Against, Gay, Terrorist)
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And some of those moderators terrorize gaysAnd some of those gay terrorists are moderators.