Does anyone have a save file from the English-patched Japanese version of the game? I'd like to launch some breeding but I need to get some Japanese pogeys to use the Masuda Method and I'd really rather not do a third playthrough at the moment.
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Shiny Hunting
- Thread starter SwampertTheGreat
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SwampertTheGreat
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wrkngclsshr
Smash Rookie
Holy crap, I want a shiny Joltik.
I got a Shiny Delibird on the GTS. Except... it's level 5. And it's a Delibird.
On Diamond I have a Shiny Bibarel. Too bad everyone hates them but me >.>
I got a Shiny Delibird on the GTS. Except... it's level 5. And it's a Delibird.
On Diamond I have a Shiny Bibarel. Too bad everyone hates them but me >.>
O D I N
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Damn, I'll have to grind for a Joltik someday. I intend to put that dude on my team.
Anyway, I've yet to actually get a shiny. :< Ever.
Zook
Perpetual Lazy Bum
Remember the Battle Factory in Emerald? How one of the rental Pokemon was an Electrode? One time I was playing and that guy was shiny.
I was like :C
I was like :C
Yaya
Smash Champion
I've started Soft Resetting for a Shiny Virizion.
In other news, I am a stupid, stupid man.
In other news, I am a stupid, stupid man.
Claire Diviner
President
I've yet to encounter a shiny in Gen V. I'll probably Masuda Method for one when I transfer my Japanese Ditto from SoulSilver, especially since now it's like 1 in 1300-something to hatch a shiny using the method in Gen V. Still pretty low, but much better than 1 in over 8000.
Fun fact: Gen V games are programmed so that Reshiram, Zekrom, and Victini can never be encountered shiny.
Fun fact: Gen V games are programmed so that Reshiram, Zekrom, and Victini can never be encountered shiny.
Can anyone confirm whether its possible to get a legit shiny Kyurem? I know that Victini, Reshiram and Zekrom are impossible but I've heard shiny Kyurem might be possible. I kinda want to soft-reset for one because I've been waiting for a sweet Ice legendary forever... but it would suck to do it for like 50 hours and then turn out it's not possible.
AR/Pokesav shinies won't pass a legality checker. Sometimes you just want something awesome without using a cheat I guess. I usually don't at all and I made a bunch of hacks in Diamond before I discovered battling on Shoddy, but Kyurem might be worth a little bit of resetting while I do other stuff. *shrug*
SwampertTheGreat
Smash Ace
Because it takes away one of the best parts of getting a shiny which is how great it feels.
Kyurem can be obtained as a shiny.It's just those three that can't be.
Wave⁂
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It feels great to soft reset the game?
asianaussie
Smash Hero
it feels great to obtain one and see those sparkles
best feeling ever is catching a shiny successfully in the safari zone
worst feeling ever is finding a shiny kangaskhan/chansey/beldum/absurdly-hard-to-catch poke in the safari zone
best feeling ever is catching a shiny successfully in the safari zone
worst feeling ever is finding a shiny kangaskhan/chansey/beldum/absurdly-hard-to-catch poke in the safari zone
SwampertTheGreat
Smash Ace
Do you know what legit means?
If your not here to talk about shinies then get out of the thread.
Wave⁂
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loooool
Legit means obtained the way Nintendo intended it be obtained, imo
umad?
Enzo
Smash Lord
^umad?
legit means obtaining it without using third-party sources or illegal sources
tl;dr getting legit shinies means using a DS and the pokemon cartridge
also nintendo implemented soft resetting themselves so its still legit
legit means obtaining it without using third-party sources or illegal sources
tl;dr getting legit shinies means using a DS and the pokemon cartridge
also nintendo implemented soft resetting themselves so its still legit
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
Nobody really understands that meaning imo anymore imo
asianaussie
Smash Hero
imo imo is an imo overused term imo
only imo though
soft resetting is forcing a shiny and working absurdly hard for it, whereas i agree with wave in that a 'legit' shiny can be interpreted as one found by accident, since that's THE SPIRIT OF POKEMONS
only imo though
soft resetting is forcing a shiny and working absurdly hard for it, whereas i agree with wave in that a 'legit' shiny can be interpreted as one found by accident, since that's THE SPIRIT OF POKEMONS
Tbh Soft Resetting and breeding are both basically exploiting the RNG system, so if you're going to exploit and **** with the system anyway, you might as well just use AR which does the same thing.
(Not talking about pokésav)
(Not talking about pokésav)
asianaussie
Smash Hero
I disagree. the only real RNG abuse is RNGing with seeds/frames, akin to using a night-scope'd, calibrated dart gun for a game of darts in a dark pub. Soft-resetting and breeding are more like hurling darts randomly with your eyes closed to boot, hoping for them to hit a bullseye.
Still you've saved before a legendary encounter/egg hatch, and keep resetting until you get a shiny.
That's still an exploit of the system because eventually you WILL get a shiny at some.
Might as well get an AR, turn on every encounter is shiny, and have fun. It locks the PIDs into shiny generation so technically they're all legit.
Still most shinies look dumb anyway, so I don't really go out of my way to obtain them.
Except for when I soft reset hatched a Beldum, because shiny Metagross is amazing.
That's still an exploit of the system because eventually you WILL get a shiny at some.
Might as well get an AR, turn on every encounter is shiny, and have fun. It locks the PIDs into shiny generation so technically they're all legit.
Still most shinies look dumb anyway, so I don't really go out of my way to obtain them.
Except for when I soft reset hatched a Beldum, because shiny Metagross is amazing.
asianaussie
Smash Hero
Xatu is one of my shinies and IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME T.T
Locking the PID into shiny will fail a legitimacy checker because the seed value won't match the generated PID. So there will be discrepancies in the data.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
You can always hack a poke to appear legit
I just don't find SR'ing to be fun at all and is boring work
The only SR'ing I do is to find legendaries with good IVs and nature because I can actually use it in competitive play
I just don't find SR'ing to be fun at all and is boring work
The only SR'ing I do is to find legendaries with good IVs and nature because I can actually use it in competitive play
Ryu Shimazu
Smash Master
Pokegen can make legit anything.
Just sayin'
And RNG abuse makes legit Pokemon, AR does not change the codes/SID/PID to fit the data.
Really though, you can use Pokegen to create a 100% legit Pokemon. It's quite easy.
Just sayin'
And RNG abuse makes legit Pokemon, AR does not change the codes/SID/PID to fit the data.
Really though, you can use Pokegen to create a 100% legit Pokemon. It's quite easy.
Wave⁂
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That's what happens in subjective discussions. Eh.
Yeah, pretty much. But where does Pokegen come in?
Rajam
Smash Champion
Shinies from 3rd gen:
Oddish
Spinda
Slugma
Koffing
Weezing
2 Gastly (lol)
Ninjask - Shedinja (Nincada was the 1st shiny I caught and I used it)
I don't Shiny Hunt. All those were random encounters and through breeding
Oddish
Spinda
Slugma
Koffing
Weezing
2 Gastly (lol)
Ninjask - Shedinja (Nincada was the 1st shiny I caught and I used it)
I don't Shiny Hunt. All those were random encounters and through breeding
Claire Diviner
President
It's not really exploiting a system unless you use a program that can help aid in predicting the PID of the encountered Pokémon after soft-resetting. So soft-resetting is no different than regular encounters. Also, up until Gen V, soft-resetting before receiving an egg did nothing, as the PID of the Pokémon in the egg was already set the moment the old man was holding it. In Gen V, you can soft-reset for eggs, but I prefer mass hatching anyway. Also, if you've ever heard of the Masuda Method, it makes hatching shiny Pokémon easier, and in Gen V, they increased the odds to 1 in 1300-something. In fact, the Masuda Method was how I got several of my shinies, including two Ralts, a Beldum, and a Charmander.
Also, making all encounters into shiny Pokémon will not make the shiny legit, as their PID will not match. All you do is set the shiny flag to "on", causing any PID to appear shiny, including PIDs that are not supposed to be shiny. I hear said shinies revert to their normal colors when placed in a PC box (unless the PID is genuinely a shiny one), but I'm not sure about that.
^ This.
I know about Pokégen, and I have been thinking about using it, but it requires sticking your game in an AR/other device (I know Pokégen supports AR), and I don't think I want to risk any harm to my game... unless I get another copy as a sort of backup. Even then, I don't own an AR, so I'll have to do things legit anyway, and I'm too lazy at the moment to go to a GameStop to buy an AR as well as a second Gen V game.
tl;dr: ^ This.
M.K
Level 55
"legitmate" isn't supported under the "IMO" clause.
A shiny is legitmate if it's random-encountered, chained, soft-resetted, or Matsuda Method'd. That's what "legitmate" is.
A shiny is legitmate if it's random-encountered, chained, soft-resetted, or Matsuda Method'd. That's what "legitmate" is.
SwampertTheGreat
Smash Ace
Exactly what Meta said.
I found a uncatchable shiny Rattata earlier.
Lucky me.
I found a uncatchable shiny Rattata earlier.
Lucky me.
Claire Diviner
President
You're right.
Some people tend to get "legit" and "legal" mixed up. "Legit" is basically what Meta-Kirby said. "Legal" encompasses the definition of "legit", but also encompasses Pokémon that are - for lack of better terms - hacked, but done so within legal reason where their PID matches with the Secret Trainer ID to be made shiny, as well as match up with the IVs, Nature, Ability, etc..
So if everyone here isn't against Pokégen, why don't they just use it?
I only don't use it for the sole reason that back when I did battle reguarly on wifi, people would constantly want to inspect my pokémon etc and try to see if they were hacked.
Of course, there is no way to really tell, but people will also take good IVs as a sign of hacking, so it's kinda
I only don't use it for the sole reason that back when I did battle reguarly on wifi, people would constantly want to inspect my pokémon etc and try to see if they were hacked.
Of course, there is no way to really tell, but people will also take good IVs as a sign of hacking, so it's kinda