SH Discussion

[brentosfreshness]

I've been playing melee competitively since 2005. I have most tech skills down pretty well. I can wave dash, dash dance, edgeguard well, everything. But for some reason I can't get my short hop back lol. Would you prefer claw? I can do it with almost every top tier, just isn't working with sheik

 

[EPsilon933]

Sheik doesn't have a short short hop

Try flicking the bottom edge of the x button with your thumbnail

 

[AirFair]

Yea I just flick my thumb over x. Try that.

 

[Ringedge]

Press and let go of the button as quickly as you possibly can. Falco has one of the easiest short hops while Sheik has one of the harder ones, so I would try to get it down with Falco first. Or your controller is broken, that could also be the case if you have only used 1 controller.

 

[Citricide]

What I did was choose fox and practice short hopping with him. Fox has to release the jump button within 2 frames to short hop. It's very strict but if you can short hop with fox, then you can short hop with anybody.

 

[bnewtonz]

slide the edge of your thumb over quickly. Slide, don't press

 

[Vorde]

Yeah what I do is use the edge of my thumb /fingernail is, and just slide it super quick at the bottom edge of the X button. Only way I found that works for me.

 

[SSS]

I've been playing melee competitively since 2005. I have most tech skills down pretty well. I can wave dash, dash dance, edgeguard well, everything. But for some reason I can't--and never have been able to--short hop. This is a crucial part of the competitive game, and while i've managed my way around it and developed a style that works for me, I need that short hop to take me to the next level.

Every time I try to short hop, it just does a full jump, no matter if i tap jump or use X or Y. I seriously don't get it. I've watched tutorial videos on it, etc, but unfortunately don't have too many friends in melee or a huge melee scene where i currently live.

Any tips? How do you all do it? SHFF is one of the only tech skills i can't and don't utilize simply because i can't short hop!

btw I am a Sheik main, but also use Falco, so you can imagine the limitations of not being able to short hop, especially with those two mains.

It is NOT dependent on how light you press it. Just in case you thought that, a lot of people do. A short hop occurs when you release the jump button before the jump squat animation is over. So basically, you short hop by releasing jump quickly. I kinda tap and slide off the bottom edge of X. You can actually see right under my X button where the paint is worn down from me sliding from X to the c-stick.

By the way, Falco is basically impossible without short hop lol

 

[vynleren]

I just press Y and release it quickly (as Fox) - I've heard sliding is a great way to do it as well. Just pick a method and practice it over and over and soon you won't even be thinking about short hops.

 

[brentosfreshness]

It is NOT dependent on how light you press it. Just in case you thought that, a lot of people do. A short hop occurs when you release the jump button before the jump squat animation is over. So basically, you short hop by releasing jump quickly. I kinda tap and slide off the bottom edge of X. You can actually see right under my X button where the paint is worn down from me sliding from X to the c-stick.

By the way, Falco is basically impossible without short hop lol

Yeah, that's why I stick primarily with Sheik. Thanks for the tips though, i'll definitely be practicing this!

 

[SSS]

Yeah, that's why I stick primarily with Sheik. Thanks for the tips though, i'll definitely be practicing this!

Even with Sheik you need to short hop.

Your reason for not doing something in Melee should never be "because it's too hard".

Especially not short hopping.

 

[Luigimitsu]

Sliding is bad IMO, I tried that for a while when I was learning tech skill but it's just too awkward to do every time during a match. Just tap the button, if you can't do it after a few days of practice then your hands might not be cut out for it (or just don't play Fox, I only ever found it hard with Fox but I learnt it).

 

[brentosfreshness]

Even with Sheik you need to short hop.

Your reason for not doing something in Melee should never be "because it's too hard".

Especially not short hopping.

i hear that. It has nothing to do with it being too difficult, i just have had trouble doing it!! I've gotten it down pretty well with falco, still working on mastering it with sheik.

Thanks for the help!