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Ffamran

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Top notch Spamus play right here.
Eh, beggars can't be choosers. Considering they're from streams, it's like reaching into a hand filled with rusted needles and trying to find a diamond or something. Mew2King just fought a good ROB recently from what Cyro said, but that's like out of how many ROBs?

Some of the matches on his channel have good players and some of them are just... mediocre to say the least. For one, there's two Falco videos on his channel and the oldest one had an awesome Falco and a very close match, but the newest one had a Falco who didn't do much, but run around and get bodied. Or the Yoshi videos where Paige lost momentum and the second match was just a demoralized Paige fruitlessly fighting while Sean's Yoshi was aggressive, but too reckless, and then there's Daniel's Yoshi who was like the roly poly Samuses.
 

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That Ike could have totally juggled both those Samus plays for 80% of the time imo.
I think he was being nice. :p

Falco, Samus, and Yoshi are difficult to find good videos for... Falco's more of just not there, Samus I haven't checked yet, and Yoshi videos usually end up with Yoshi getting bodied which annoys some of the users on the Yoshi boards.
 

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I think he was being nice. :p

Falco, Samus, and Yoshi are difficult to find good videos for... Falco's more of just not there, Samus I haven't checked yet, and Yoshi videos usually end up with Yoshi getting bodied which annoys some of the users on the Yoshi boards.
I just upload full stream sessions where it's Ike vs. Samus.... :c which is bad because that's the MU I know the most because of that.

You're right about Falco, the only ones I could dig up were from VGBC if GimR is playing or Keitaro. I would figure Keitaro uses Falco in his Rush Hour Smash stream though, but I don't really partake. I would have suspected some insane yoshi vids already seeing how he's actually pretty decent if not really good.
 

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I just upload full stream sessions where it's Ike vs. Samus.... :c which is bad because that's the MU I know the most because of that.

You're right about Falco, the only ones I could dig up were from VGBC if GimR is playing or Keitaro. I would figure Keitaro uses Falco in his Rush Hour Smash stream though, but I don't really partake. I would have suspected some insane yoshi vids already seeing how he's actually pretty decent if not really good.
The good Falcos are like, GimR, Keitaro, pawclaw, Cyro, Kato, and from what people say, FOW. Of those 5, only GimR and Keitaro are the most well-known. The rest aren't really well-known or people haven't seen their Falco yet like FOW where I only say him fight once against Shofu's Fox. The other Falcos that are good are just randoms or people who don't compete of if they do, then it's not on a national scale. The best Falco I have seen is some random online Falco from Japan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uWkQ6z06m9s.

Yoshi had hype from the beginning, but for whatever reason, Yoshi never got a spotlight. There's Yoshidora and even then, I never saw Yoshidora play.

It's still early, but even then, it's a little sad to see half the cast not get used at all or get written off so early. Anyway, I digress. Have a random video I looked up. The commentary might iffy... iEatPinkTacos's Samus vs. Vhiny's Yoshi and ROB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay-FFJLPMuI.

Also, bad commentary... Effiesectu's Samus and ZSS vs. Wet Man Will's Sheik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgtYVrhI1gw.

Snack's Samus and Dr. Mario vs. Snick's Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPgqAfGbs9A. I think these are friendlies. Snack and Snick? Snick-snack? :p
 
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The good Falcos are like, GimR, Keitaro, pawclaw, Cyro, Kato, and from what people say, FOW. Of those 5, only GimR and Keitaro are the most well-known. The rest aren't really well-known are people haven't seen their Falco yet like FOW where I only say him fight once against Shofu's Fox. The other Falcos that are good are just randoms or people who don't compete of if they do, then it's not on a national scale. The best Falco I have seen is some random online Falco from Japan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uWkQ6z06m9s.
Well that guy automatically made Falco not look clunky what-so-ever, lol. I would need to see how a Falco like that would go against a faster character, imo. He's pretty ridiculous.

It's still early, but even then, it's a little sad to see half the cast not get used at all or get written off so early. Anyway, I digress. Have a random video I looked up. The commentary might iffy... iEatPinkTacos's Samus vs. Vhiny's Yoshi and ROB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay-FFJLPMuI.
That Samus isn't that bad. Yoshi can throw out so much without worry, it's frustrating to look at sometimes, lol.
 

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Well that guy automatically made Falco not look clunky what-so-ever, lol. I would need to see how a Falco like that would go against a faster character, imo. He's pretty ridiculous.

That Samus isn't that bad. Yoshi can throw out so much without worry, it's frustrating to look at sometimes, lol.
GimR's Falco is getting there; check out the recent VGBC's uploads. I'm not sure, but the commentators noticed that he might be pulling off perfect pivot Dtilts which I think has the same if not slightly less range than Falco's Ftilt, but can kills, especially with the body hitbox, and launches people up. GimR uses a lot of Uairs that it's not even funny how he can land those and combo with them. One of the recent videos had him fight against Sheik.

As for fast characters, there are a lot of Falco vs. Fox and Captain Falcon videos and they're pretty nifty since Falco is slower in movement, but attacks at the same speed as Fox and slightly faster than Captain Falcon. Also, I think, but I need more experience and more opinions and results from others, that Falco does fairly well against Sonic because of his damage per hit and Reflector shutting down Spin Dash and Charge.

As for Samus and Yoshi, I don't know much about them, so I can't say much. I just find videos.
 

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I have to agree that he's definitely the flashiest and fanciest Falco I've ever seen, but I think he attempted it a bit too hard. Noticed how he could have chosen a few safer / more rewarding punishes or moves in general.
Thank you for critiquing Falco on the Samus boards. :p
 

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It's only a fraction more damage and power (though it can matter) up tilt your smash on a shield break. It only goes over shorter characters. I'm pretty sure it hits megaman. You can tilt up on your control stick after you start charging your smash, FYI.
 
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Yeah I know, i was pretty certain it wasnt gonna kill at that percent anyway tho and didnt wanna risk whiffing

Also could a mod or op start putting all these gameplay videos underneath the names of the characters in the OP? It would help a lot if people were looking how to play specific match ups
 
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I probably could of got something like up tilt uair CS (though i did get up tilt cs later on)
Oh nah, I'm speaking of the actual shield break with the CS. Trying to figure out why it destroyed it when it looked near full. I would expect a skittle sized shield after the fact.
 

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Oh nah, I'm speaking of the actual shield break with the CS. Trying to figure out why it destroyed it when it looked near full. I would expect a skittle sized shield after the fact.
Jab 2. Jab2 has a good shield bite. Jab2, D-air, up-tilt, bomb and super missiles all take a good bite out shields. Up-tilt is actually safe on shield at full range. Someone should make a list of shield breaker combinations. I'll do it eventually but it's really useful information. I really don't know if shields have more or less HP depending on characters, I think the heavies have more from gameplay but don't actually know.
 

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Jab 2. Jab2 has a good shield bite. Jab2, D-air, up-tilt, bomb and super missiles all take a good bite out shields. Up-tilt is actually safe on shield at full range. Someone should make a list of shield breaker combinations. I'll do it eventually but it's really useful information. I really don't know if shields have more or less HP depending on characters, I think the heavies have more from gameplay but don't actually know.
That's all well and good, but honestly in the video it just looked deceptive as hell.
 

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Hmm, so this is where you guys are hiding the videos. I'll have to have a look around...

I have to agree that he's definitely the flashiest and fanciest Falco I've ever seen, but I think he attempted it a bit too hard. Noticed how he could have chosen a few safer / more rewarding punishes or moves in general.
Yes, I saw that Falco when that vid was linked in the Ganon boards. Pon is one of the best Ganon's out there, so that tells you something.

Funny that the first link I click isn't even a Samus video and something I've already seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3UCww-GIFU&feature=youtu.be

Some games I had vs a good megman, prolly could of punished the shield break more but thought id play it safe
Nice video. I liked the edge play towards the end of the first match. And shortly after the shield break when you read the tech roll and hit Megaman with the charged shot.. that was pretty sweet.
 
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That's all well and good, but honestly in the video it just looked deceptive as hell.
I didn't quite go frame by frame but:

MM shielded at 4:16.9 to 16.3 for .7 seconds of shield, releases until 15.1 for 1.2 seconds of regeneration, ate two jabs (11*1.05 shield damage from fresh jabs) shield is back down at ~14.16 so almost a full second of shield, releases until 13.53 for ~.6 seconds of recharge, 13.36 Charge shot hits (28*1.05 fresh bonus). ~7.7 damage per second while shield is held, ~3.8 damage per second for recharge:

50-7.7*.7+1.2*3.8-11*1.05-1*7.7+.6*3.8-.2*7.7-28*1.05=1.26 HP

Margin of error ~0.2 seconds.

Really close. Obviously it did break, but it probably was right on the edge.
 

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I've always thought that a shield's hp was dependent of character height. Because it has to englobe them fully at full health. However I think there is an attribute that ends up defining the hp. For example, olimar's shield won't break with a CS, but megaman's did and it was much larger than a full olimar shield.

As for breaking shields, I've noticed that samus is one of the better (and only really) characters that can break shields semi consistently. Although shield regeneration is ridiculous in this game, samus has both hard hitting attacks and they can easily be stringed together. As mentioned above, charge shot, super missile, up tilt, dair, bair and bombs do amazing shield damage. While other attacks like ftilt, uair and regular missiles are good for slightly poking the shield safely and to continue to mix things up for attack. It's pretty cool when they actually survive the charge shot with just a fraction of the shield but the hit stun won't let them let go of the shield so it ends up breaking anyway.

Also, screw attack does ridiculous shield damage, perhaps even more so than an charge shot, but it'll only fully connect when an opponent is on the top platform on battlefield. It'll most likely hit them first than breaking the shield, but get an up air in there and then a screw attack and it'll get very close to breaking while also launching the opponent most likely.

By the way, when at 80% you're obviously wanna go for the charged f smash. But low percents I'll go for an up tilt combo and at a little higher percents go for the dair to get something going. Against larger character, is fsmash better or would up smash have more ko power?
 
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Up smash is weaker than f smash, and nothing we have is stronger knock back wise than an angled up f smash so that's your go to against taller characters

Also maybe shield damage multiplies if hit in quick succession or somethin? it would explain why bombs and zair do good shield damage despite being low damage moves
 
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Right, that's what I thought, but it never hurts to double check.

Oh up smash why are you so terrible. I guess it does a solid 24% at full charge but eh
 

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Right, that's what I thought, but it never hurts to double check.

Oh up smash why are you so terrible. I guess it does a solid 24% at full charge but eh

It isn't all that bad. It's ass when it comes down to needing something quick, but you could totally set it up. I usually use it at low percent to keep racking up damage while keeping them close. Only think I want to learn to do with it is to setup the last hit only because there's always that chance people pop out.
 

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Up smash is weaker than f smash, and nothing we have is stronger knock back wise than an angled up f smash so that's your go to against taller characters

Also maybe shield damage multiplies if hit in quick succession or somethin? it would explain why bombs and zair do good shield damage despite being low damage moves
If you look at the frame data, the plus numbers in parens are bonus shield damage. Screw attack does +3 shield damage on each hit.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3UCww-GIFU&feature=youtu.be

Some games I had vs a good megman, prolly could of punished the shield break more but thought id play it safe
Yo, really nice game. Nice off stage combos at the end of game one. Something that I've found is pretty effective against players when they're coming up from ledge is to roll backwards against the stage so that you're at the very edge of the stage but facing away from the edge and then just hold shield while they're deciding which get-up to use. If they jump, get-up attack, or standard get-up, you can just scoop them into a screw attack. If they roll, you can grab them since they're rolling into the direction you're facing. If they drop off edge>attack>grab edge, you just shield the hit and screw attack once they lose invincibility. Give it a try and see if it works with your play style.

Side note: You're reaction time in response to which option your opponent chooses has to be pretty quick for this to work, but you're definitely skilled enough.
 
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Alright guys, as I mentioned in the other thread, here's the matches I had with Rohins in for glory (I'm sure he'll be able to verify if it indeed was him) nice mirror matches we had. I think we fought a few more that I forgot to save but oh well.

Part 1 http://youtu.be/itO8U6p3Hd0
Part 2 http://youtu.be/5PDWP15I33Y
Part 3 http://youtu.be/37jvSw3yQjk

My phone ran out of memory in that last fight but it ended with me doing a horrible edgeguard with a nair and Rohins jumping over me and spiking me.

Would love to any critiques
 

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Wow how do you do so well with the 3DS controls?? The string at 2:22 was very pretty.
Well smash 4 on 3ds was basically my first ever smash game so i guess i grew accustomed to it, I also play it a bit more than my wii u version since it starts up quicker and my hands tend to get really cold playing on wii u ;-;
 

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Here's a Samus vs Greninja video. Hopefully you guys can use this as an example of how Samus can deal with characters much faster than her. And also how not to deal with them, as can be seen in the first bit of the video :p it took me a bit to get the groove of the fight down.
 
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Hey guys! I'd been playing a lot of Samus in For Glory to the point where I decided to try her out in my local monthly. I managed to make my way through most of my matches, but I started struggling in GF against a ROB I'd beaten earlier and had to change it up to Villager. It was a customs tournament, and I went 1213 Samus.

Winners finals vs. Pit: Please excuse me shooting myself in the face numerous times. Didn't realize how long Pit could keep his orbitars out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90pJreMDtFA

Grand Finals Set 1 vs. ROB: The first match I just could not get the kill at all. Second match started off okay, but I was too focused on trying to DI away from ROB's DThrow UAir. I think it just ended up getting me killed earlier than usual when the follow up did connect. Maybe if i'd utilized Zair more, or was less afraid to use projectiles (ROB's are so much faster so it's hard ;_; )
I coulda pulled it out but I decided not to risk it and went a character I'm more comfortable with in Villager.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAeciL50FaM

Critique is welcome! I'm not quite convinced that this character is the mediocre mess many say she is and I'd love to keep putting in work with her!
 
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Hey guys! I'd been playing a lot of Samus in For Glory to the point where I decided to try her out in my local monthly. I managed to make my way through most of my matches, but I started struggling in GF against a ROB I'd beaten earlier and had to change it up to Villager. It was a customs tournament, and I went 1213 Samus.

Winners finals vs. Pit: Please excuse me shooting myself in the face numerous times. Didn't realize how long Pit could keep his orbitars out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90pJreMDtFA

Grand Finals Set 1 vs. ROB: The first match I just could not get the kill at all. Second match started off okay, but I was too focused on trying to DI away from ROB's DThrow UAir. I think it just ended up getting me killed earlier than usual when the follow up did connect. Maybe if i'd utilized Zair more, or was less afraid to use projectiles (ROB's are so much faster so it's hard ;_;)
I coulda pulled it out but I decided not to risk it and went a character I'm more comfortable with in Villager.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAeciL50FaM

Critique is welcome! I'm not quite convinced that this character is the mediocre mess many say she is and I'd love to keep putting in work with her!
Can't blame you. Villager dominates rob.
 

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R.O.B.?
I fought a good R.O.B. surprisingly on FG.
I wasn't at my best, I was tired and missed a few opportunitys where I could have punished him with up.b but I think it's worth sharing since you don't see that many good R.O.B.s.


 
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