Roy's Our Boy - General Hype/Discussion Thread

[NameChange]

Hey everyone my names Ryo I'm normally an Ike main in brawl but as of recent I've been really addicted to PM and I main Roy it's nice to meet everyone. But is there a place I can put my 1 video up to be critiqued.

I'm glad to see you're interested in PM! I was a fan of your Brawl Ike back in the days.

 

[AceGamer]

Hey guys, with the new PM update coming and more alt costumes coming. What costumes do you wanna see for Roy? For me since Marth is getting a costume dedicated to another Fire Emblem Lord, I think it be cool if Roy got Eliwoods clothes as an alt costume or maybe another fire emblem Lord

 

[CyberZixx]

I'd be all for that. Only issue being Eliwood uses a rapier so they could not remodel the sword.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Eliwood would be tight but I rather be down with a Leif inspired costume from FE5 kinda like how Marth is getting a FE4 Sigurd outfit.

 

[AceGamer]

Just took a look at how Leif's armour looks and it is sick, if we don't get eliwoods clothes as an alt. Leif is the next best thing

 

[AceGamer]

Oh and CyberZixx, their just changing his clothes not the sword so don't worry

 

[CBO0tz]

Does anybody think Roy needs some sort of incentive to get people to look past his poor recovery, besides decent offensive capability?

 

[Player -0]

No?

10Nos?

 

[Kaysick]

Hey guys, you probably have seen me throughout a bunch of other character's boards. Trying to solidify my characters. If you were at LTC2 or have watched the Chicago scene, my good friend Pooch182 suggested that I should pick up Roy. He said it complimented my playstyle perfectly and I doubted him from last week's Wavedash Wednesday until yesterday's Wavedash Wednesday. I started playing friendlies with people as Roy and I picked up everything so fast, it was kinda scary. I went 4-2 in bracket with my first time ever picking him up in PM(used to play him a good amount in Melee). Boy do I love this character.

What are good uses of dsmash? I have a habit of CC dsmash because I've played Samus since my Melee days so its almost ingrained in my brain. I know its good, but low %'s certain characters can easily act out of the hitstun and it has a good amount of lag. Also, good uses for utilt? I need to start using that move more in general, not just for Roy.

 

[Remo]

Hey guys, you probably have seen me throughout a bunch of other character's boards. Trying to solidify my characters. If you were at LTC2 or have watched the Chicago scene, my good friend Pooch182 suggested that I should pick up Roy. He said it complimented my playstyle perfectly and I doubted him from last week's Wavedash Wednesday until yesterday's Wavedash Wednesday. I started playing friendlies with people as Roy and I picked up everything so fast, it was kinda scary. I went 4-2 in bracket with my first time ever picking him up in PM(used to play him a good amount in Melee). Boy do I love this character.

What are good uses of dsmash? I have a habit of CC dsmash because I've played Samus since my Melee days so its almost ingrained in my brain. I know its good, but low %'s certain characters can easily act out of the hitstun and it has a good amount of lag. Also, good uses for utilt? I need to start using that move more in general, not just for Roy.

CC for Roy is bread and butter. I would suggest rather than Dsmash you Dtilt. Roy's Dtilt sets up EVERY one of his combo moves. The best thing I've found for Dmash is ledgedashing and Dmashing for coverage. Utilt is something I don't use often because up air is so much better in comparison.

 

[leekslap]

Can someone please give me a Roy head icon thing so I can put it in my signature because I just realized Roy is basically a faster Ganon with a sword and fire. I mean he isn't as manly but... Fire. FIRE! FFFIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRE!!!

 

[Shadic]

...You realize it's a smiley on Smashboards, right?

 

[leekslap]

Like that?

 

[Kaysick]

What are Roy's best OoS options?

 

[Ghetto Blush]

What are Roy's best OoS options?

wavedash, grab, dair

none of these area really that good though

does anyone else find it harder to do crouch -> f-smash out of DD than it is to do it out of single direction dash? for some reason whenever I try to do it out of DD, I get a dash attack even though the mechanics should be the same out of a regular dash. I guess that's what I get for being lazy and not hammering down my pivot timings.

 

[Bedoop]

Apparently 's audience chant is "Roy's our boy!". Way to rub salt into the wounds, Sakurai.

You heard it here first, folks.

 

[ShadowGanon]

 

[Binary Clone]

does anyone else find it harder to do crouch -> f-smash out of DD than it is to do it out of single direction dash? for some reason whenever I try to do it out of DD, I get a dash attack even though the mechanics should be the same out of a regular dash. I guess that's what I get for being lazy and not hammering down my pivot timings.

Is fsmash out of DD really that useful an option? I would think typically it'd be better at that point to dtilt out of DD and then convert off that. As you said, pivoting is much better for fsmashes.

 

[smoothjazzyet]

Hey, i just registered to the forums to post there
So my question is more about PM roy than Melee roy but i didnt find a similar thread in project M forums
: How do you deal against Mario? You will think this is weird but i thought a good way to practice with the AI would be to try to 4-stock any of them.. and i dont do it against Mario ( i spent almost 3 hours trying it ). and i tried with my mother main, diddy kong, and did it first attempt, even though i hear sometimes that Mario is rough for Diddy + i think i'm actually a better diddy than roy's

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Hey guys

 

[Blargg888]

Hey guys
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Oh, you actually did it. Okay.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Oh, you actually did it. Okay.

Ninja'd by the Ninja

 

[Bedoop]

Hey guys
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Right in the Meleehood.

 

[Blargg888]

Ninja'd by the Ninja

But you didn't ninja me...

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

But you didn't ninja me...

There goes my moment in the sun
http://smashboards.com/threads/roy-3-5.377850/page-3#post-18015325

 

[Bedoop]

Hey guys
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Basically the result.

 

[Ekans647]

So I'm thinking of maining Roy, but I know that in Melee he was inferior to Marth. In PM what are some of the buffs he received from the transition from Melee the advantages that he has over Marth. Is Roy's sourspot still the entire blade? If so, has it been strengthened? Thanks for your help.

 

[Binary Clone]

So I'm thinking of maining Roy, but I know that in Melee he was inferior to Marth. In PM what are some of the buffs he received from the transition from Melee the advantages that he has over Marth. Is Roy's sourspot still the entire blade? If so, has it been strengthened? Thanks for your help.

His blade works like the reverse of Marth's: the tip is a sourspot, while the rest is strong.

His DED (side-b) is much, much more useful, powerful, and variable than Marth's Dancing Blade. His bair is now a potent killmove if you connect the small sweetspot. He has a very strong combo game with his aerials and tilts, with more consistent KO power than Marth granted by his Fsmash, bair, and neutral B. His nair is also revamped, making it great for combos and spacing, while his downsmash now hits on both sides with powerful upward knockback. Additionally, his new ftilt has pretty huge range and is great for poking enemies and sometimes even killing. It can also be angled upwards or downwards, with the latter even being able to strike opponents grabbing the ledge.

 

[CyberZixx]

Roy is better at comboing and killing than Marth. His conversions are also stronger due to dtilt. All his moves have their use. Roy is well worth using. I much prefer him than Marth in PM, i`m saying that as somewho who breathed Marth in this game for a year. Roy is a lot of fun and in 3.5 can really get results.

 

[Ekans647]

That makes sense. Instead of having a sweetspot at the base and the rest of the blade being a sourspot like in Melee, the sweetspot is the entire blade. Cool. So what are some practical uses for DED. When should you use it?

 

[Oddyesy]

That makes sense. Instead of having a sweetspot at the base and the rest of the blade being a sourspot like in Melee, the sweetspot is the entire blade. Cool. So what are some practical uses for DED. When should you use it?

I've seen it used as a jab reset (first hit), I personally like using the third hit up for the meteor (the kills are always satisfying), and if you can somehow get all 4 hits off it's a fairly good kill move. It now clanks projectiles. And as always, without it your recovery would be literally trash.

 

[CyberZixx]

DED is situational but rather strong. If spaced well and you are smart with it you can pressure people`s shields because the only thing they can really do is roll away which you can bait and punish easy. Roll behind you and they eat the turn around hit 4 (yes the forth hit can also be used behind you). Plus the third hit is reliable to land and is strong.

 

[Oddyesy]

DED is situational but rather strong. If spaced well and you are smart with it you can pressure people`s shields because the only thing they can really do is roll away which you can bait and punish easy. Roll behind you and they eat the turn around hit 4 (yes the forth hit can also be used behind you). Plus the third hit is reliable to land and is strong.

I've found that it's easy for people to grab inbetween hits.

 

[CyberZixx]

Depends on their character and spacing of course. I don`t suggest that vs DK for example. Plus on shield I never go past swing 2. Usually just the first, it is the understood threat that makes it work.

 

[Oddyesy]

Depends on their character and spacing of course. I don`t suggest that vs DK for example. Plus on shield I never go past swing 2. Usually just the first, it is the understood threat that makes it work.

Ah, yeah.

 

[CyberZixx]

What how everyone feel about Roy match up wise in 3.5? I bet some of his harder 3.02 match ups (Diddy, Link, Mario) are more doable now. But say Sheik and DK are still a rough time. Other than those two though I can't think of real hard ones.

 

[Oddyesy]

What how everyone feel about Roy match up wise in 3.5? I bet some of his harder 3.02 match ups (Diddy, Link, Mario) are more doable now. But say Sheik and DK are still a rough time. Other than those two though I can't think of real hard ones.

I dunno, I like DK because of his weight. Uptilt chains ayy

 

[thechosenjuan]

Why does Roy's flare blade hit Squirtle out of his recover, offstage, under the lip of the edge, even when the Squirtle is hitting his sweetspot on the recover?

 

[SilverThorne333]

Idk why everyone calls Marth the "original" when they were both introduced in the same installment, namely Melee (Stating the obvious). Personally, I believe Roy is the real reason that Fire Emblem gained interest in the USA due to Smash Bros. History lesson time! So Marth was already a part of the Fire Emblem series. After all, he's the first and one of the only reoccurring protagonists, Roy however, is the only character in Smash Bros. history to be introduced through Smash bros. he was included as promotional material for the 6th installment. I knew about Marth before Melee, but Roy was a real mystery to me and it's crazy he hasn't gone back to being an official Smash Bros. character (No offense to Project M, love u guys!)

 

[CyberZixx]

Marth gets that claim because it is clear Roy was based off of Marth's move set not vice versa. Also seems Roy was not given the care in design that marth was in general. Plus as you said, he was in game before smash so anyone who did know Fire Emblem before then knew of Marth probably.