Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[kingmario92]

YOU CANNOT GRASP THE TRUE FORM OF VILLAGER ATTACK.

Words cannot describe the Villager.

And they say Animal Crossing is for kids

 

[Hank Hill]

YOU CANNOT GRASP THE TRUE FORM OF VILLAGER ATTACK.

 

[DMurr]

I think it's a pretty plausbile roster!

Either K.Rool or Ridley instead of both is a good guess.
4 Star Fox reps... hmmm.... Iffy but could be.
I'm going to be bold here and say that it could either be Takamaru or Lucina, but 4 blue haired sword users I just don't see likely.

Other than that, pretty solid!
May I ask, if you had 50 characters, what would your last two be? Just curious. :D

Thanks! Man, this thread travels fast. I feel so delayed responding now, and its the same day haha.

Anyway, to add two characters, it would be K. Rool and Roy. I see Roy as possibly more likely than Lucina but I'm struggling to see Sakurai picking Chrom, and it's possible for the Avatar also. K. Rool is an obvious add but for some reason, I truly feel that Dixie is more likely as a newcomer for this game, with her being planned as being added to Brawl (even if she was combined with Diddy then), and her being in Tropical Freeze.

Takamaru I put in there as the obligatory revived retro. You could swap him for Mach Rider, but I think Mach Rider could potentially be too similar to Captain Falcon. Takamaru has much more to work with, and of those things, doesn't have to be anything like the other sword users (can use ninja things and whatnot from his game).

Characters that I didn't include that I wouldn't be surprised to see are Bowser Jr., King K. Rool, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Chrom or Avatar or Roy (or Lyn... I wish).

I don't really see any Pokemon newcomer being as likely as people think, considering that Mewtwo is currently the poster boy of the 6th gen with Mega Mewtwo.. which translates incredibly well to a Final Smash. Mario has so many options that any of them are possible, really. Who knows? Since they've already revealed 3 of the main 4, its very possible to see a 5th for this game, since I'm sure that we'll see Peach sometime soon

I really think that we'll see Krystal. Sakurai loves Star Fox, and Krystal was practically tied with Wolf for a newcomer in Brawl. We know he's been looking at preBrawl popularity already.. so I think she'll be in.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

New Roster Update: Version 5.3

Additions: Issac, Medusa, Pac-Man
Removals: Sheriff, Matthew.

Starfy - Starfy is one of the most likely, he's had 3 GBA installments, a 4th on DS, and a fifth western release on DS. He has become a pretty big Nintendo All-Star and has a lot of Move Set Potential. I suggest others add him.

Mewtwo - Mewtwo will return. There is no question about it. What will be of his upgraded awakened form though? My guess is that you earn this through battle or Final Smash and maybe lose it when KO'd. Footage of the movie: "Extreme Speed Genesect: Mewtwo's Awakening" that this new form is in fact more powerful and faster. He only changes back to Mewtwo when he is weakened or done fighting. So it makes sense to be a form that you earn, but don't keep forever as it's powers are limited.

Genesect - My newest addition. I didn't add Genesect because he's a new Pokemon, I added him because we need a Pokemon that hasn't already been playable. Genesect fits the description Sakurai gave on how he adds Pokemon characters. Genesect being in SSB seems very likely and has so much potential. He has become greatly popular in Japan as well.

Paper Mario - Bowser Jr is very likely to be the 5th Mario rep, but I see Paper Mario to be more preferred and unique. It just seems like the more logical choice. (See the move set I made at the bottom of this post.)

Medusa - Let me start by addressing the elephant in the room. I have Medusa because I think she is pretty likely, I know 3 KI reps seems a little unexpected, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got a dark semi-clone of the Goddess of light. She's basically my prediction for a semi-clone and I couldn't really think of anyone else to add. Sakurai is really promoting Kid Icarus in the trailers and footage so I don't see Medusa to be impossible. However I wouldn't be surprised if all we got was Palutena.

New! Pac-Man - I personally don't consider this a great addition to a game like Super Smash Brothers. But, he seems to have a lot of requests. I still think Bomberman would be a better addition and still has a chance.

Mii - I think it's obvious he will use moves from Wii Sports, Wii Party, StreetPass Quest, and maybe even Pilot Wings Resort.

Possible Cuts:

Snake - Most games that have guest characters usually only have them once. If any game does that it should be Smash Bros. I'm sure Sakurai may want to prioritize Nintendo Characters in a Nintendo fighting game, and not have too many Third-Parties. We could have Sonic, Snake, and Mega Man, and though it's hard to imagine SSB without Sonic, there is the possibility either 3 will be too many and Sakurai may want a second third-party to have a chance. I just don't see third-parties as veterans, but Sonic seems too popular to leave. (I know Snake was added as a favor, but it was a request for him to make an appearance, not be a veteran for life. That'd be a pretty huge favor)

Jigglypuff - I personally don't want Jigglypuff to go and could suffice with Mewtwo over Lucario (even though I like Lucario better) but Jigglypuff hasn't really made any special appearances in anime or game. She could be more unique than Lucario with her fairy moves, but people suggest I keep Lucario. I think veteran status being her biggest reason for staying will not carry on this time, especially since she is a Pokemon and Pokemon risks an all veteran roster. I do not assure the removal of Jigglypuff.

R.O.B - Hopefully it's not the case, but if cuts have to be made he may be lower priority than most.


Ness or Lucas - If cuts have to be made one might go.

Costumes:

Villagette - I predict half of Villagers colors will be Boy, and the other half will be girl.

Dry Bowser - Either 1 costume or a second set like Wario & Villager.

If you have opinions or constructive Criticism, please give suggestions below. Tell me if you think I should go back to my old roster.

(Credit to Ariand/AEM for making the Icons of Palutena, Little Mac,and Mii)

Bonus!: Starter Roster (My predictions of characters you will have at the beginning of the game.)

Spoiler

 

[zauberdragon]

With the revelation that Mega Evolutions happen mid battle, what do people think this will do to a potential Mewtwo playstyle? Personally I'm hoping it'll be his final smash and work in a similar way to Bowser's or Wario's (plus seeing as I rarely use items I won't have to look at it too often).

Other than that I see it to be closer to how Samus changes than to Zelda and Sheik. I've not looked to closely into it but Mega evolutions don't seem to be something you can just turn on and off willy nilly.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I need your guys opinions for my latest roster:

DK - K Rool, Dixie, Both, or None?
Metroid - Should ZSS take up her own slot, or should she be pick able at the menu like Zelda/Sheik?
Star Fox - Fox plus (Wolf/Falco/Krystal.) I'm thinking of limiting Star Fox to two reps but three might be ok.
Fire Emblem - Marth and Lyn (dual wielding swords) plus (Chrom/Ike/Roy.)
Earthbound - Ness or Lucas
One other rep slot is open.
Help organizing the last three rows on the right.

Add both
ZSS should be like Zelda/Sheik
Fox and Wolf easy, but it'd be best to keep all 3.
Ike, there's no reason to cut him.
Earthbound-both

 

[Hotfeet444]

Well, since it's all about new Rosters, here's my latest.

Total Roster: 50

Returning Characters: all 35

Newcomers: 15 (Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, MegaMan, Bowser Jr., King K.Rool, King Boo, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Ridley, Mewtwo, Chrom, Palutena, Takamaru, Little Mac, Isaac, Shulk)

Starting Roster

Unlocking Strategy:

1.) Jigglypuff (15)
2.) Ness (30)
3.) Falco (60)
4.) Bowser Jr. (100)
5.) Captain Falcon (150)
6.) Marth (200)
7.) Snake (250)
8.) Luigi (300)
9.) Lucario (350)
10.) Ganondorf (400)
11.) King K.Rool (450)
12.) Sonic (500)
13.) R.O.B. (550)
14.) Toon Link (600)
15.) Wolf (650)
16.) Mr. Game & Watch (700)
17.) MegaMan (750)
18.) Ridley (800)
19.) Mewtwo (850)
20.) Shulk (900)
21.) King Boo (950)
22.) Toon Zelda/Tetra (1000)

 

[zauberdragon]

New Roster Update: Version 5.3

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I'll start with the positives. You're roster size is ambitious but achievable and I like a lot of the less controversial additions- Ridley, King K Rool etc.

For the stuff I don't agree with-

Starfy I still don't think is the shoe-in you seem to think he is. Europe has yet to play his games and therefore his role as assist trophy seems to fit him well.

Paper Mario it still very meh to me but as you say Bowser Jr is more likely so I'll give you credit there.

Genesect for Jigglypuff seems unlikely. Not just for the original 12 status but also because Genesect represents a generation on it's way out. I still see Zororak as more or a mascot for 5th Gen anyway but neither are likely.

I don't see any good reason for Snake's removal. His absence from Playsation all-stars says to me Konami has more confidence in Nintendo's than Sony's brawler and the relationship between Nintendo and Konami doesn't seem to have changed too much.

I think three Kid Icarus reps is a little optimistic though I'd be ok with it. I think Medussa is possible but personally I'd stick to just Pit and Palutena for now. (Though Medussa is very plausible for a large roster/future title)

Other than that there's nothing that really sticks out, good job.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I'll start with the positives. You're roster size is ambitious but achievable and I like a lot of the less controversial additions- Ridley, King K Rool etc.

For the stuff I don't agree with-

Starfy I still don't think is the shoe-in you seem to think he is. Europe has yet to play his games and therefore his role as assist trophy seems to fit him well.

Paper Mario it still very meh to me but as you say Bowser Jr is more likely so I'll give you credit there.

Genesect for Jigglypuff seems unlikely. Not just for the original 12 status but also because Genesect represents a generation on it's way out. I still see Zororak as more or a mascot for 5th Gen anyway but neither are likely.

I don't see any good reason for Snake's removal. His absence from Playsation all-stars says to me Konami has more confidence in Nintendo's than Sony's brawler and the relationship between Nintendo and Konami doesn't seem to have changed too much.

I think three Kid Icarus reps is a little optimistic though I'd be ok with it. I think Medussa is possible but personally I'd stick to just Pit and Palutena for now. (Though Medussa is very plausible for a large roster/future title)

Other than that there's nothing that really sticks out, good job.

I don't think Bowser Jr is more likely and I still see us getting a newcomer Pokemon, and Genesect is the best one since Zoroark is just a Lucario wanna be. And Europe not getting Starfy doesn't really mean anything, NA didn't get FE and I don't believe Europe got Mother 2. Starfy is still a deserving All-Star with tons of potential. And isn't gen 4 already made it's way out? I think it's about who the most deserving Pokemon and not so much what gen it's from.

 

[TumblrFamous]

New Roster Update: Version 5.3

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I like it. I'm just not sure about a third Kid Icarus rep, and I think you know how I feel about Genesect, though I find him unique and plausible. I'm already doubtful that we're getting another KI rep altogether. I doubt we'll see three, being a small franchise, it should be fine with two. Granted if KI gets more games before a possible 5th game, it can have three. I would suggest replacing Medusa with either Snake (unlikely), another Zelda rep (also unlikely), or a character like Saki or Shulk.

Oh, and I also agree with zauberdragon that while Starfy has a decent shot, he isn't necessarily a shoe-in.

Also, as for your starter roster, replace K. Rool with Isaac. He'd be a good starter.

Other than that, I really like the roster.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I like it. I'm just not sure about a third Kid Icarus rep, and I think you know how I feel about Genesect, though I find him unique and plausible. I'm already doubtful that we're getting another KI rep altogether. I doubt we'll see three, being a small franchise, it should be fine with two. Granted if KI gets more games before a possible 5th game, it can have three. I would suggest replacing Medusa with either Snake (unlikely), another Zelda rep (also unlikely), or a character like Saki or Shulk.

Also, as for your starter roster, replace K. Rool with Isaac. He'd be a good starter.

Medusa was mostly filler, but I think she's the most logical Semi-Clone. Although 2 KI reps is enough, Sakurai seems to treat the series the same as the other original 8.

 

[Opossum]

I need your guys opinions for my latest roster:

DK - K Rool, Dixie, Both, or None?
Metroid - Should ZSS take up her own slot, or should she be pick able at the menu like Zelda/Sheik?
Star Fox - Fox plus (Wolf/Falco/Krystal.) I'm thinking of limiting Star Fox to two reps but three might be ok.
Fire Emblem - Marth and Lyn (dual wielding swords) plus (Chrom/Ike/Roy.)
Earthbound - Ness or Lucas
One other rep slot is open.
Help organizing the last three rows on the right.

Personally, I'd

-Have K. Rool at the very least, but both if there's room after.
-ZSS should just be selectable on Samus' icon, like Sheik is for Zelda.
-StarFox should just have Fox, Falco, and Wolf.
-For Fire Emblem, I'd personally pick Ike out of him and Chrom, but I feel Chrom has a much better shot than Lyn, so I'd suggest Marth, Ike and Chrom.
-Keep both Ness and Lucas
-For the other slot, Isaac or a retro character (preferably Takamaru, Muddy Mole, Mach Rider or Lip) should be added.

Just my opinion.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Medusa was mostly filler, but I think she's the most logical Semi-Clone. Although 2 KI reps is enough, Sakurai seems to treat the series the same as the other original 8.

Well, Pit's appearance in the trailer, IMO, doesn't mean anything. For all we know, we might not even get Palutena (even though she's one of my most wanted). And while Medusa is shown to be a pretty nice semi-clone, Sakurai blatanly told interviewers that they're looking for uniqueness in the roster. I'm sure they'd put in Medusa if they had time to add a filler, but I'm not entirely sure.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Well, since it's all about new Rosters, here's my latest.

Total Roster: 50

Returning Characters: all 35

Newcomers: 15 (Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, MegaMan, Bowser Jr., King K.Rool, King Boo, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Ridley, Mewtwo, Chrom, Palutena, Takamaru, Little Mac, Isaac, Shulk)

Starting Roster

Unlocking Strategy:

1.) Jigglypuff (15)
2.) Ness (30)
3.) Falco (60)
4.) Bowser Jr. (100)
5.) Captain Falcon (150)
6.) Marth (200)
7.) Snake (250)
8.) Luigi (300)
9.) Lucario (350)
10.) Ganondorf (400)
11.) King K.Rool (450)
12.) Sonic (500)
13.) R.O.B. (550)
14.) Toon Link (600)
15.) Wolf (650)
16.) Mr. Game & Watch (700)
17.) MegaMan (750)
18.) Ridley (800)
19.) Mewtwo (850)
20.) Shulk (900)
21.) King Boo (950)
22.) Toon Zelda/Tetra (1000)

Nobody wants to review my new Roster? Oh okay.

 

[TheBakonBitz]

Personally, I'd

-Have K. Rool at the very least, but both if there's room after.
-ZSS should just be selectable on Samus' icon, like Sheik is for Zelda.
-StarFox should just have Fox, Falco, and Wolf.
-For Fire Emblem, I'd personally pick Ike out of him and Chrom, but I feel Chrom has a much better shot than Lyn, so I'd suggest Marth, Ike and Chrom.
-Keep both Ness and Lucas
-For the other slot, Isaac or a retro character (preferably Takamaru, Muddy Mole, Mach Rider or Lip) should be added.

Just my opinion.

Doesn't Chrom play like Ike?

 

[zauberdragon]

Nobody wants to review my new Roster? Oh okay.

In all honestly I agree with pretty much everything. The only character I see as unlikely is King Boo but other than that it's pretty similar to my prediction.

 

[Opossum]

Doesn't Chrom play like Ike?

Not necessarily. I advise you check out my moveset in the OP of the Chrom thread.



/shameless plug

 

[MagnesD3]

To the people hating on Tom Nook, I would have put tom nook in before villager as he is more iconic, it would not surprise me if gets in this time but Id expect to see him in the smash after if not this one. His moveset is easy to make and would be unique and interesting. Im all for his inclusion.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Well, since it's all about new Rosters, here's my latest.

Mwahaha, you have Toon Zelda and Tetra. Okay, positives:

• You have all the most likely characters, and Brownie Points for Bowser Jr. and T. Zelda/Tetra.
• Decent size roster.
• Did not unfairly rep the franchises (not a requirement, but something I like).
• Overall a solid, well-designed roster.

Okay, negatives:

• Is that Megalucario replacing Lucario? It's plausible, but I'd find it more likely if we get it as a FS of Lucario (since Aura Storm blew chunks).
• Still not sure on King Boo. While Luigi is an iconic character, he (in my eyes), hasn't fully become his own franchise. But you already knew my opinion.

What can you do?

• First replace Mega-Lucario with regular Lucario.
• Umm, replace King Boo with the Miis? Although I loathe the idea, it's a very great chance.

9/10. Awesome job!

 

[TheDivineDeity]

New Roster Update: Version 5.3
Oh God... here we go...

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Additions: Issac, Medusa, Pac-Man
Removals: Sheriff, Matthew.

Starfy - Starfy is one of the most likely, he's had 3 GBA installments, a 4th on DS, and a fifth western release on DS. He has become a pretty big Nintendo All-Star and has a lot of Move Set Potential. I suggest others add him. OH MY GOD, ENOUGH WITH STARFY! What makes you SO CERTAIN Sakurai would even consider Starfy, when he has so many factors against him - being another typical cutesy chibi-like character (Kirby and Jigglypuff), lack of any potential interesting moves, other than spinning around with water or using a damn clam, bringing in NO interest or dynamic with either himself as a playable character OR bringing in his universe, wasting a potential slot that could go to someone like Ridley, Lloyd, or Takamaru, and being an all-around unnecessary inclusion.

Mewtwo - Mewtwo will return. There is no question about it. What will be of his upgraded awakened form though? My guess is that you earn this through battle or Final Smash and maybe lose it when KO'd. Footage of the movie: "Extreme Speed Genesect: Mewtwo's Awakening" that this new form is in fact more powerful and faster. He only changes back to Mewtwo when he is weakened or done fighting. So it makes sense to be a form that you earn, but don't keep forever as it's powers are limited. I agree with this completely.

Genesect - My newest addition. I didn't add Genesect because he's a new Pokemon, I added him because we need a Pokemon that hasn't already been playable. Genesect fits the description Sakurai gave on how he adds Pokemon characters. Genesect being in SSB seems very likely and has so much potential. He has become greatly popular in Japan as well. I like Genesect's inclusion... but if it comes at the cost of cutting Lucario, I'd rather not. Although, considering Genesect is a 'recent' and more 'relevant' Pokemon, I can see it happening.

Paper Mario - Bowser Jr is very likely to be the 5th Mario rep, but I see Paper Mario to be more preferred and unique. It just seems like the more logical choice. (See the move set I made at the bottom of this post.) I like this choice, but there is NO WAY Paper Mario will have more priority over Toad. In fact, here's an equation I've been working on in terms of Mario character priority:


Let's say, in terms of character uniqueness (A), moveset potential (B), roster balance (C), and deservingness (D), the equation goes as A+B+C+D = Potential Roster Choice (PRC). Now, let's say Paper Mario fits the criteria of this equation as A+B+C+D = PRC. One would think Paper Mario would be deserving... right? Well then, there is another factor to consider - the division of the addition, otherwise known as Sakurai's Consideration (Sakurai). With the factor known as Sakurai, he would not only consider all of the above, but also Priority (P). Which means, with Paper Mario, the equation is now A+B+C+D / Sakurai = PRC. By doing this, Paper Mario's chances now turn out to be better than most other picks, because the factor of Sakurai would lessen because Paper Mario isn't the highest priority of the Mario universe - Toad is. With Toad, you have A+B+C+D / Sakurai = PRC, whereas the Sakurai factor is much more lenient.

Consider another equation in terms of Toad's priority, P = R1/R2. P = Priority, which is equal to Recency (R1) and Relevancy (R2). The closer P = R1/R2, the greater the chance is for Toad's priority. Consider R1 and R2, where Toad is actually effective with in this equation, consider he is BOTH recent and relevant. Now the equation of P = R1/R2 favors Toad in this sense. It also favors Paper Mario, but not as much, because his R2 is not as high as Toad's. Therefore, the previous equation A+B+C+D / Sakurai = PRC makes sense in light of this.

Therefore, Toad > Paper Mario in terms of priority.

Medusa - Let me start by addressing the elephant in the room. I have Medusa because I think she is pretty likely, I know 3 KI reps seems a little unexpected, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got a dark semi-clone of the Goddess of light. She's basically my prediction for a semi-clone and I couldn't really think of anyone else to add. Sakurai is really promoting Kid Icarus in the trailers and footage so I don't see Medusa to be impossible. However I wouldn't be surprised if all we got was Palutena.

I'd rather have Hades or Magnus than Medusa, but I don't mind this. Honestly, I definitely see Sakurai adding more than 1 rep for Kid Icarus (maybe this will give way to Donkey Kong getting two more reps?).

New! Pac-Man - I personally don't consider this a great addition to a game like Super Smash Brothers. But, he seems to have a lot of requests. I still think Bomberman would be a better addition and still has a chance.
FINALLY!!!

Mii - I think it's obvious he will use moves from Wii Sports, Wii Party, StreetPass Quest, and maybe even Pilot Wings Resort.
I agree.

Possible Cuts:

Snake - Most games that have guest characters usually only have them once. If any game does that it should be Smash Bros. I'm sure Sakurai may want to prioritize Nintendo Characters in a Nintendo fighting game, and not have too many Third-Parties. We could have Sonic, Snake, and Mega Man, and though it's hard to imagine SSB without Sonic, there is the possibility either 3 will be too many and Sakurai may want a second third-party to have a chance. I just don't see third-parties as veterans, but Sonic seems too popular to leave. (I know Snake was added as a favor, but it was a request for him to make an appearance, not be a veteran for life. That'd be a pretty huge favor)
I agree.

Jigglypuff - I personally don't want Jigglypuff to go and could suffice with Mewtwo over Lucario (even though I like Lucario better) but Jigglypuff hasn't really made any special appearances in anime or game. She could be more unique than Lucario with her fairy moves, but people suggest I keep Lucario. I think veteran status being her biggest reason for staying will not carry on this time, especially since she is a Pokemon and Pokemon risks an all veteran roster. I do not assure the removal of Jigglypuff.
I AGREE!

R.O.B - Hopefully it's not the case, but if cuts have to be made he may be lower priority than most.
Nope, don't see this happening AT ALL. ROB serves the same purpose as Game & Watch - the retro character. Besides, we never had to completely cut AN ENTIRE SERIES as of yet... ROB stays.

Ness or Lucas - If cuts have to be made one might go.
Both should go, but I certainly expect Lucas dying off from the Smashverse, where he won't be missed except by his cult-like fanatic lunatics.

Costumes:

Villagette - I predict half of Villagers colors will be Boy, and the other half will be girl.

Dry Bowser - Either 1 costume or a second set like Wario & Villager.

If you have opinions or constructive Criticism, please give suggestions below. Tell me if you think I should go back to my old roster.

Overall, better than most roster predictions you usually make, and that's saying something. However, it needs better improvement.

(Credit to Ariand/AEM for making the Icons of Palutena, Little Mac,and Mii)

Bonus!: Starter Roster (My predictions of characters you will have at the beginning of the game.)

Spoiler

 

[TheBakonBitz]

Not necessarily. I advise you check out my moveset in the OP of the Chrom thread.



/shameless plug

Sold once I read he can use a lance. Poor Ephraim doesn't have enough support. So Marth is the basic sword user, Chrom can use sword and lance, Lyn has two swords, and Ike is the heavy sword user. How do I pick three? I guess if Sakurai turns Ganondorf into a heavy sword user Ike's out.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Mwahaha, you have Toon Zelda and Tetra. Okay, positives:

• You have all the most likely characters, and Brownie Points for Bowser Jr. and T. Zelda/Tetra.
• Decent size roster.
• Did not unfairly rep the franchises (not a requirement, but something I like).
• Overall a solid, well-designed roster.

Okay, negatives:

• Is that Megalucario replacing Lucario? It's plausible, but I'd find it more likely if we get it as a FS of Lucario (since Aura Storm blew chunks).
• Still not sure on King Boo. While Luigi is an iconic character, he (in my eyes), hasn't fully become his own franchise. But you already knew my opinion.

What can you do?

• First replace Mega-Lucario with regular Lucario.
• Umm, replace King Boo with the Miis? Although I loathe the idea, it's a very great chance.

9/10. Awesome job!

Lucario is still regular Lucario, I just chose that picture for ****s and giggles. If I had that picture Bakonbitz used of Lucario, I'd probably use that one.

Pssst, BakonBitz, may I please have that icon of Lucario?

 

[TumblrFamous]

Trust me Divine, people will miss either Ness or Lucas if they go, even if they aren't in the canvases. I personally find the Mother series quite boring (don't hurt me, Mother fans), but I loved using Lucas in Brawl, he was the first character I mained. Regardless, any cut character will cause backlash, if they're in the fanbase or not.

Take for example Roy. I've never liked Fire Emblem, but when he was removed I was really upset. I loved using him in Melee!

EDIT: Dammit, FANBASES. NOT CANVASES. STUPID PHONE.

 

[TheBakonBitz]

Lucario is still regular Lucario, I just chose that picture for ****s and giggles. If I had that picture Bakonbitz used of Lucario, I'd probably use that one.

Pssst, BakonBitz, may I please have that icon of Lucario?

Here you go bro:

(P.S. It's not just BakonBitz, it's TheBakonBitz )

 

[FlareHabanero]

Trust me Divine, people will miss either Ness or Lucas if they go, even if they aren't in the canvases.

King Boo must be slacking if neither are in the canvases.

 

[Opossum]

Sold once I read he can use a lance. Poor Ephraim doesn't have enough support. So Marth is the basic sword user, Chrom can use sword and lance, Lyn has two swords, and Ike is the heavy sword user. How do I pick three? I guess if Sakurai turns Ganondorf into a heavy sword user Ike's out.

I doubt Ganondorf could fill Ike's niche, personally. I expect him to be more magic-heavy than sword heavy. Here's a thought, though. Why don't you add all four, since you said you had one slot left over?

Both should go, but I certainly expect Lucas dying off from the Smashverse, where he won't be missed except by his cult-like fanatic lunatics.

So Lucas fans are cult-like fanatic lunatics now? Look, I know you have blatant bias against the Mother series, but this is just wrong.

OH MY GOD, ENOUGH WITH STARFY! What makes you SO CERTAIN Sakurai would even consider Starfy, when he has so many factors against him - being another typical cutesy chibi-like character (Kirby and Jigglypuff), lack of any potential interesting moves, other than spinning around with water or using a damn clam, bringing in NO interest or dynamic with either himself as a playable character OR bringing in his universe, wasting a potential slot that could go to someone like Ridley, Lloyd, or Takamaru, and being an all-around unnecessary inclusion.

And once again, your "criteria" as factors against him reek of bias. "Chibi-like" characters? Really? Kirby, Jigglypuff, and Starfy would play nothing alike. Saying otherwise is just ignorant. And what you consider interesting is just plainly subjective. And furthermore, I feel Lloyd would be a bigger waste of a slot than ANY Nintendo character would, considering he isn't exactly a well-known character, is third party, and is rather niche to boot.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

In order for us to easier understand PRIORITY, in terms of roster predictions, I have created 2 equations concerning priority.

A+B+C+D / Sakurai = PRC

P = R1/R2

Let me explain.

Let's say, in terms of character uniqueness (A), moveset potential (B), roster balance (C), and deservingness (D), the equation goes as A+B+C+D = Potential Roster Choice (PRC). Now, let's say [a character] fits the criteria of this equation as A+B+C+D = PRC. One would think [a character] would be deserving... right? Well then, there is another factor to consider - the division of the addition, otherwise known as Sakurai's Consideration (Sakurai). With the factor known as Sakurai, he would not only consider all of the above, but also Priority (P). Which means, with [a character], the equation is now A+B+C+D / Sakurai = PRC. By doing this, [a character] chances now turn out to be better than most other picks. Therefore, you have A+B+C+D / Sakurai = PRC, whereas the Sakurai factor is much more lenient.

Consider another equation in terms of [another character] priority, P = R1/R2. P = Priority, which is equal to Recency (R1) and Relevancy (R2). The closer P = R1/R2, the greater the chance is for [another character] priority. Consider R1 and R2, where [another character] is actually effective with in this equation, consider he is BOTH recent and relevant. Now the equation of P = R1/R2 favors [another character] in this sense. It also favors [a character], but not as much, because his R2 is not as high as [another character]. Therefore, the previous equation A+B+C+D / Sakurai = PRC makes sense in light of this.

I hope that helps!

 

[TumblrFamous]

King Boo must be slacking if neither are in the canvases.

Shut up, I don't proofread my texts.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Shut up, I don't proofread my texts.

You could of simply, you know, edited it. Should be below your post, just click the "Edit" button.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

Trust me Divine, people will miss either Ness or Lucas if they go, even if they aren't in the canvases. I personally find the Mother series quite boring (don't hurt me, Mother fans), but I loved using Lucas in Brawl, he was the first character I mained. Regardless, any cut character will cause backlash, if they're in the fanbase or not.

Take for example Roy. I've never liked Fire Emblem, but when he was removed I was really upset. I loved using him in Melee!

EDIT: Dammit, FANBASES. NOT CANVASES. STUPID PHONE.

Wow, we are almost agreeing with each other. You know... you and me are a lot more alike now.

 

[TheBakonBitz]

I doubt Ganondorf could fill Ike's niche, personally. I expect him to be more magic-heavy than sword heavy. Here's a thought, though. Why don't you add all four, since you said you had one slot left over?

Hmm, I expect Ganondorf to use both Magic and a sword. I think four FE is too much, I want to make this as realistic as possible.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Here you go bro:

(P.S. It's not just BakonBitz, it's TheBakonBitz )

Thank you. And also, I know, I just say BakonBitz as a shortened version. Like people call me just "Hotfeet" instead of the full name.

 

[TumblrFamous]

You could of simply, you know, edited it. Should be below your post, just click the "Edit" button.

I will not hide my shame. That makes me weaker as a unit. And I am not weak. I am strong.

 

[TheBakonBitz]

Thank you. And also, I know, I just say BakonBitz as a shortened version. Like people call me just "Hotfeet" instead of the full name.

I know, just messing with ya, most people just say Bakon, as long as it's with a K there isn't normally any confusion.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

Insert generic boring comments telling you to rate my roster here.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

I will not hide my shame. That makes me weaker as a unit. And I am not weak. I am strong.

Get over yourself. You're not the smartest or strongest person on this thread, so stop acting like it. When you make a mistake, go to the "Edit" option, and fix that mistake. That's it. We're all God's imperfect creatures, so none of us are free of sin.

 

[Opossum]

Hmm, I expect Ganondorf to use both Magic and a sword. I think four FE is too much, I want to make this as realistic as possible.

In that case, I wouldn't put too much hope out for Lyn...I feel the other three stand a much greater chance.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Get over yourself. You're not the smartest or strongest person on this thread, so stop acting like it. When you make a mistake, go to the "Edit" option, and fix that mistake. That's it. We're all God's imperfect creatures, so none of us are free of sin.

Except for me and Perfect Cell

 

[TheDivineDeity]

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Insert generic boring comments telling you to rate my roster here.

Decent, but nothing special. it's kinda 'been there, done that'. Otherwise, good work, I guess.

 

[TheBakonBitz]

Get over yourself. You're not the smartest or strongest person on this thread, so stop acting like it. When you make a mistake, go to the "Edit" option, and fix that mistake. That's it. We're all God's imperfect creatures, so none of us are free of sin.

Hey calm your buns bros, he was being sarcastic. He didn't mention or even imply any of that stuff, you just want to start something. No need to go ape **** on him.