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Of course, it’s still R.O.B. and Ness getting beaten by another character, which makes me a very unhappy robot, but it’s nice to see that we’ll hopefully get some more charm and personality into our Robotic Operating Buddy that should have been, but was absent in, the previous installment of the series.
Yes, his movement seems very fluid in this game. A lot of his moves seem a lot faster too, most noticeably his N-Air and B-Air which don't seem to have the same "stall" they had last game.
-I'd recommend taking a look at B-throw as a potential kill throw. I still haven't seen footage of it used ala a Ness kill throw yet and am curious how it fairs in this game now.
The same can be said for a lot of retro characters. But he's still there because of his original games
Well, there's no Gyromite stage, there was no Gyromite trophies in previous installments and as previously mentioned, his largest role has been in Smash.
All good suggestions that I've written down. B-Throw in particular is a move I don't think I've seen *at all*, so interested to see what's happened there.
Yes. You can mash out of it reasonably quickly which prevents getting anything particularly crazy out of it, but it looks to make beep boop easier at mid-high percents and confirms into up smash at high percents. At low percents we're likely going to need to get used to using up throw if that's still a combo throw.
R.O.B. trying to save his brothers was easily the most emotional part of Subspace, man.
Now I want to see fanart of this.
R.O.B. originates from the Robot series, not from the Smash Bros. series. Therefore his emblem should represent the Robot series and not the Smash Bros. series.
This should be fixed by giving R.O.B. a stage and acknowledging his series in collectables. As for SU I am hoping they do that by introducing spirits from the Robot series, most notably Professor Hector and Professor Vector (Although I would have preferred that they be playable obviously).
Same goes for many other retro characters. Do you really want retro characters like Ice Climbers, DHD, R.O.B., and Mr GaW to lose their series identity and instead be treated as if they originate from the same series? Personally I would hate that but I guess to each their own. I think it is more important to acknowledge a characters actual series in Smash than it is to acknowledge that they have been in Smash in Smash. Even if the series is dead and the character only lives on in Smash.
My headcannon is that after the events of Stack-Up Professor Hector and Professor Vector left the lab in order to do more research somewhere else. R.O.B. then proceeded to expand the lab and build more robots in his image. When Professor Hector and Professor Vector returned between the events of SSBB and Smash 4 they had developed the theory for the R.O.B. Cannon which they used to upgrade R.O.B. which resulted in his new FS. Therefore R.O.B. should still be a Robot character.
I fully agree with this. They should not take away his logo, instead they should add more Robot content to Smash. A spirit of Professor Hector would be great IMO.
I never said that about the other retro characters though? They at least have stages and trophies to represent their source material while R.O.B. has nothing to represent his games except Gyro.
Oh yeah, definitely. At least an Assist Trophy or a new Final Smash that isn't a generic laser. Anything at all I'm down for. As long as they acknowledge his roots he's definitely worth his own logo.
Yeah, that's fair.
Yes, of course - I just forgot to follow up here as I joined the ROB discord!HeyDJ3DS , has that event taken place yet?
I’m so thankful to hear his recovery didn’t get as nerfed as I thought it did.
How was he buffed from his transition to ultimate?
Faster aerials, faster ground speed, etc etc etc. Here's a full list -
how would the change to up b fix him that much? Is it that good for him to be able to jump out of robo burner?
Don't be so harsh, you just have to work around it. If you buffer the jump you can get uair at low percents.
Naw I dropped him for Olimar
The jump is nice, but the air dodge is the more important fact. Rob doesn't really have good defensive aerials except for bair, and if you use that defensively off stage you push yourself away. Most characters in sm4sh with good aerial mobility abused this and would keep him offstage until his fuel ran out. Even trying to outpoke them, with his **** air movement while in up b Rob was pretty easy pickings for characters that could edge guard. Having a defensive option without the need to go mid/high recovery every single time means more fuel overall to work with, less predictable recovery paths, and by extension, longer stocks. Which is a good thing considering Rob is in the heavyweight class. Just a reminder that Rob hovered in the mid tiers despite being one of the few characters to be able to be realistically gimped in sm4sh, so making this weakness not so easily exploitable is a much needed buff.
Buffered up tilt is not guaranteed. The opponent can choose to simply not mash and turn it into a 50/50.
